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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> on 1997/10/17 02:09:06 UTC
Announcement rough framework
Apache 1.3beta2 Released
The Apache Group is pleased to announce the release of
the first public beta release of Apache 1.3.
Apache 1.3 offers numerous enhancements, improvements and performance
boosts over the 1.2 codebase. The most visible and noteworthy addition
is the ability to run Apache under Windows 96 and NT.
Apache 1.3b2 under UNIX has undergone extensive testing, but there are
known issues in the current release. The Windows port has not undergone
as strenuous a workout. Apache 1.3b1 was never formally released, thus
making 1.3b2 the first beta.
Apache has been the most popular web server on the Internet since April
of 1996. The September 1997 WWW server site survey by Netcraft (see:
http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/) found that more web servers were
using Apache than any other software. Apache and its derivatives are run
on over 48% of all web domains on the Internet.
The Apache project has been organized in an attempt to answer some of
the concerns regarding active development of a public domain HTTP server
for UNIX. The goal of this project is to provide a secure, efficient and
extensible server which provides HTTP services in sync with the current
HTTP standards.
For more information, please check out http://www.apache.org/
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Marc Slemko wrote:
>
> Is it confirmed it compiles on NT? <duck>
'tis now. Compiled but not tested.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Marc Slemko <ma...@worldgate.com>.
Is it confirmed it compiles on NT? <duck>
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> Apache 1.3beta2 Released
>
> The Apache Group is pleased to announce the release of
> the first public beta release of Apache 1.3.
>
> Apache 1.3 offers numerous enhancements, improvements and performance
> boosts over the 1.2 codebase. The most visible and noteworthy addition
> is the ability to run Apache under Windows 96 and NT.
>
> Apache 1.3b2 under UNIX has undergone extensive testing, but there are
> known issues in the current release. The Windows port has not undergone
> as strenuous a workout. Apache 1.3b1 was never formally released, thus
> making 1.3b2 the first beta.
>
> Apache has been the most popular web server on the Internet since April
> of 1996. The September 1997 WWW server site survey by Netcraft (see:
> http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/) found that more web servers were
> using Apache than any other software. Apache and its derivatives are run
> on over 48% of all web domains on the Internet.
>
> The Apache project has been organized in an attempt to answer some of
> the concerns regarding active development of a public domain HTTP server
> for UNIX. The goal of this project is to provide a secure, efficient and
> extensible server which provides HTTP services in sync with the current
> HTTP standards.
>
> For more information, please check out http://www.apache.org/
> --
> ====================================================================
> Jim Jagielski | jaguNET Access Services
> jim@jaguNET.com | http://www.jaguNET.com/
> "Look at me! I'm wearing a cardboard belt!"
>
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Martin Kraemer wrote:
> At the moment, I'm trying to look around at taz, I've logged in and it
> works - although it works rather slow:
My German friends tell me that ISP links out of Germany are generally
terrible (as well as being astonishingly expensive). Guess your
experience confirms this :-)
Cheers,
Ben.
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and Technical Director|Email: ben@algroup.co.uk |Apache-SSL author
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Marc Slemko <ma...@worldgate.com>.
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Martin Kraemer wrote:
> I was thinking that usually, a release is first checked by all members
> for compilability and obvious errors before it is announced? (1 week
> test drive - or is that only done for non-beta releases?)
That is normally done and I think it should be done for every release,
however it is too late now because it has already been made public.
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> being essentially a forgery, causing a resecond remail to all 9400 aa
^^^^
Oooo ... don't say that, the poor boy will get stage fright...
> members.... But I'll promise to do that quickly.
Cheers,
Ben.
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and Technical Director|Email: ben@algroup.co.uk |Apache-SSL author
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@organic.com>.
At 06:07 PM 10/17/97 +0200, Martin Kraemer wrote:
>As I can see when glimpsing over the new-httpd mail, the announcement text
>has already been composed by Jim, but I didn't find a description on how
>to announce, or the procedure that's required. Is it just that it's got
>to be posted to comp.*www*.unix?
And to "apache-announce@apache.org". I've added
"Martin.Kraemer@mch.sni.de" to the list of possible posters. However, I
still need to approve it, since I've turned on full moderating on that list
due to interesting mail daemons out there who think it's funny to create a
bounce message that looks so much like the original message it ends up
being essentially a forgery, causing a resecond remail to all 9400 aa
members.... But I'll promise to do that quickly.
>At the moment, I'm trying to look around at taz, I've logged in and it
>works - although it works rather slow:
Ouch. Let me know what a traceroute to www.organic.com looks like...
Brian
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 08:23:08PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> >As far as the formal announcement is concerned, since it's pretty
> >much assured that Martin will be accepted into the Apache Group,
> >would anyone have troubles if we allow Martin to compose/post
> >the announcement (that is, if he wants to :) :) ) ??
>
> +1, definitely.
In-Reply-To: <19...@devsys.jaguNET.com>; from Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 09:40:57PM -0400
> PPPS: Martin, you game for doing the announcement? :)
>
Yes, although my heart is pounding - Is it difficult to do?
Sorry for not replying earlier - Brian had replied to my (PGP-2.6.3 signed)
mail with a PGP-5.0 encrypted reply. I fetched and built pgp-5.0i for unix
first and copied my 2.6.3-pubring to the 5.0 format, so I could read what
was inside ;-)
As I can see when glimpsing over the new-httpd mail, the announcement text
has already been composed by Jim, but I didn't find a description on how
to announce, or the procedure that's required. Is it just that it's got
to be posted to comp.*www*.unix?
I was thinking that usually, a release is first checked by all members
for compilability and obvious errors before it is announced? (1 week
test drive - or is that only done for non-beta releases?)
Martin
At the moment, I'm trying to look around at taz, I've logged in and it
works - although it works rather slow:
traceroute to 204.62.130.147 (204.62.130.147), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ascend01.muenchen.org (194.95.192.253) 280 ms 190 ms 210 ms
2 cisco01.muenchen.org (194.95.192.129) 180 ms 170 ms 190 ms
3 192.68.192.130 (192.68.192.130) 1600 ms 400 ms 3090 ms
4 * 192.168.192.6 (192.168.192.6) 4720 ms *
5 LRZ-Muenchen1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.8.29) 1340 ms 3570 ms 2850 ms
6 ZR-Muenchen1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.8.17) 2690 ms 1660 ms 1540 ms
7 ZR-Stuttgart1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.45) 1180 ms 1740 ms 2660 ms
8 ZR-Karlsruhe1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.41) 2030 ms 1370 ms 600 ms
9 * ZR-Frankfurt1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.37) 1600 ms 2040 ms
10 IR-Perryman1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.78) 1230 ms 1190 ms 1510 ms
11 * * *
12 bordercore1-loopback.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.12.1) 2620 ms * 1270 ms
13 * hot-wired-ventures.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.12.34) 650 ms 2330 ms
14 * sf3-e2.wired.net (205.227.206.26) 3010 ms *
15 * * sf2-s0.wired.net (205.227.206.22) 3790 ms
16 taz.hyperreal.org (204.62.130.147) 1130 ms 3180 ms 2720 ms
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 04:40:10PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Erg. That's bad
Ah! They just arrived, all in one batch (~15 msgs)
I'll read to catch on....
Martin
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@organic.com>.
Aw fudge. The apache-announce mailing will have to wait a bit, I have to
deal with a problem in my qmail-majordomo integration scripts. It'll go
out tonight, don't worry, don't bother resending.
Brian
At 10:32 PM 10/17/97 +0200, Martin Kraemer wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 02:12:27PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>> Yup, post from your local network if possible. If not, we can try and find
>> an NNTP server local to apache.org, I think Dean knows of one :)
>>
>> Brian
>Done, to comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
> comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc and
> comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows
>and then crossposted to:
> comp.infosystems.www.announce World-Wide Web announcements. (Moderated)
> comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2.
> de.comm.infosystems.www.servers Software und Konfiguration von WWW-Servern.
>More candidates?
>
> Martin
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>| ------------- | Voice: +49-89-636-46021 | Informationssysteme AG
>| N I X D O R F | FAX: +49-89-636-44994 | 81730 Munich, Germany
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>
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"it's a big world, with lots of records to play." - sig brian@organic.com
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 02:12:27PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> Yup, post from your local network if possible. If not, we can try and find
> an NNTP server local to apache.org, I think Dean knows of one :)
>
> Brian
Done, to comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc and
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows
and then crossposted to:
comp.infosystems.www.announce World-Wide Web announcements. (Moderated)
comp.os.os2.networking.www World Wide Web (WWW) apps/utils under OS/2.
de.comm.infosystems.www.servers Software und Konfiguration von WWW-Servern.
More candidates?
Martin
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| S I E M E N S | <Ma...@mch.sni.de> | Siemens Nixdorf
| ------------- | Voice: +49-89-636-46021 | Informationssysteme AG
| N I X D O R F | FAX: +49-89-636-44994 | 81730 Munich, Germany
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Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@organic.com>.
At 09:46 PM 10/17/97 +0200, Martin Kraemer wrote:
>On Taz, I tried to use "rtin" and the supplied NNTPSERV, and it said
>"connection refused". Or should I post the announcements from here?
Yup, post from your local network if possible. If not, we can try and find
an NNTP server local to apache.org, I think Dean knows of one :)
Brian
--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
"it's a big world, with lots of records to play." - sig brian@organic.com
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 04:40:10PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Erg. That's bad since there has been some discussion going on
> about it. The Announcement file is now in the CVS tree. Announcements
> should be placed to the pertinant Usenet groups (eg:
> comp.infosystems.servers.unix, comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc and
> comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows) as well as the
> apache-announce list
On Taz, I tried to use "rtin" and the supplied NNTPSERV, and it said
"connection refused". Or should I post the announcements from here?
And _when_? ASAP - or after a settling period to find out if 1.3b2 compiles
everywhere? (It compiles on mips-sni-svr4) Or after Ben says he's rolled
apache-1.3b2.zip?
> However, the Announcement, in it's current form, states that MS
> binaries for 1.3b2 won't be available, which is most likely
> not this case; Ben is rolling one :)
That'd be not a problem, I could change that paragraph.
Martin
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| S I E M E N S | <Ma...@mch.sni.de> | Siemens Nixdorf
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My opinions only, of course; pgp key available on request
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 09:40:57PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> PPPS: Martin, you game for doing the announcement? :)
Err... I replied a couple of times, but the list appears to be dead from
here, I get neither my own copies nor any of yours. I'm going to try and
login to taz directly now...
Martin
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| S I E M E N S | <Ma...@mch.sni.de> | Siemens Nixdorf
| ------------- | Voice: +49-89-636-46021 | Informationssysteme AG
| N I X D O R F | FAX: +49-89-636-44994 | 81730 Munich, Germany
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My opinions only, of course; pgp key available on request
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 08:23:08PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> >As far as the formal announcement is concerned, since it's pretty
> >much assured that Martin will be accepted into the Apache Group,
> >would anyone have troubles if we allow Martin to compose/post
> >the announcement (that is, if he wants to :) :) ) ??
>
> +1, definitely.
In-Reply-To: <19...@devsys.jaguNET.com>; from Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 09:40:57PM -0400
> PPPS: Martin, you game for doing the announcement? :)
>
Yes, although my heart is pounding - Is it difficult to do?
Sorry for not replying earlier - Brian had replied to my (PGP-2.6.3 signed)
mail with a PGP-5.0 encrypted reply. I fetched and built pgp-5.0i for unix
first and copied my 2.6.3-pubring to the 5.0 format, so I could read what
was inside ;-)
As I can see when glimpsing over the new-httpd mail, the announcement text
has already been composed by Jim, but I didn't find a description on how
to announce, or the procedure that's required. Is it just that it's got
to be posted to comp.*www*.unix?
I was thinking that usually, a release is first checked by all members
for compilability and obvious errors before it is announced? (1 week
test drive - or is that only done for non-beta releases?)
Martin
At the moment, I'm trying to look around at taz, I've logged in and it
works - although it works rather slow:
traceroute to 204.62.130.147 (204.62.130.147), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ascend01.muenchen.org (194.95.192.253) 280 ms 190 ms 210 ms
2 cisco01.muenchen.org (194.95.192.129) 180 ms 170 ms 190 ms
3 192.68.192.130 (192.68.192.130) 1600 ms 400 ms 3090 ms
4 * 192.168.192.6 (192.168.192.6) 4720 ms *
5 LRZ-Muenchen1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.8.29) 1340 ms 3570 ms 2850 ms
6 ZR-Muenchen1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.8.17) 2690 ms 1660 ms 1540 ms
7 ZR-Stuttgart1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.45) 1180 ms 1740 ms 2660 ms
8 ZR-Karlsruhe1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.41) 2030 ms 1370 ms 600 ms
9 * ZR-Frankfurt1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.37) 1600 ms 2040 ms
10 IR-Perryman1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.78) 1230 ms 1190 ms 1510 ms
11 * * *
12 bordercore1-loopback.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.12.1) 2620 ms * 1270 ms
13 * hot-wired-ventures.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.12.34) 650 ms 2330 ms
14 * sf3-e2.wired.net (205.227.206.26) 3010 ms *
15 * * sf2-s0.wired.net (205.227.206.22) 3790 ms
16 taz.hyperreal.org (204.62.130.147) 1130 ms 3180 ms 2720 ms
--
| S I E M E N S | <Ma...@mch.sni.de> | Siemens Nixdorf
| ------------- | Voice: +49-89-636-46021 | Informationssysteme AG
| N I X D O R F | FAX: +49-89-636-44994 | 81730 Munich, Germany
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My opinions only, of course; pgp key available on request
Re: Announcement rough framework
Posted by Alexei Kosut <ak...@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us>.
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> Apache 1.3beta2 Released
>
> The Apache Group is pleased to announce the release of
> the first public beta release of Apache 1.3.
>
> Apache 1.3 offers numerous enhancements, improvements and performance
> boosts over the 1.2 codebase. The most visible and noteworthy addition
> is the ability to run Apache under Windows 96 and NT.
Um... the product is called Windows 95, regardless of when it actually
shipped...
And add some text about how the Windows version is still only source,
no binaries, and for developers only (copy the text from the 1.3a1
announcement maybe), though you might mention we hope to have a binary
for 1.3b3.
Oh, and someone needs to roll a 1.3b2 zipfile, from the Windows
version of the CVS tree (so the linebreaks and such are correct), if
that hasn't been done.
-- Alexei Kosut <ak...@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us>