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[jira] [Created] (PIVOT-840) No instructions on how to use BXML in
an application
No instructions on how to use BXML in an application
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Key: PIVOT-840
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
Project: Pivot
Issue Type: Bug
Components: demos
Affects Versions: 2.0.1
Environment: All Environments
Reporter: Robert Brown III
All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface. All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops. If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Commented] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Greg Brown (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Greg Brown commented on PIVOT-840:
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Sandro is correct. This is a documentation issue, not a bug.
FYI, any Pivot application can be launched either as an applet or a desktop application. The easiest way to make an application desktop-launchable is by adding the following method:
public static void main(String[] args) {
DesktopApplicationContext.main(<your application class>.class, args);
}
Many of the sample applications provided with the platform do this.
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Commented] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Sandro Martini (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sandro Martini commented on PIVOT-840:
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Add some more info to HelloJava and HelloBXML Tutorials (even related pages in the web site), and add the main method in both to simplify their execution as Java Applications.
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials, web-site
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.3
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Commented] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Roger Whitcomb (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roger Whitcomb commented on PIVOT-840:
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And accessing BXML resources is quite the same as accessing any other kind of resources from within a Java application. You can use (for instance) "ClassLoader.getResourceAsStream" to load them from your .jar file or another URL, or the FileReader or FileInputStream classes to load them from an external file.
In our desktop application (packaged in a .jar file) we use: "new BXMLSerializer().readObject(MyMainClass.class.getResource(<resource name>)..." where the BXML files are packaged relative to the MyMainClass package in the .jar file hierarchy.
So, if you are not familiar with packaging Java applications or other aspects of working with Java, I can see how some of things could seem daunting, but there is nothing new or unconventional about the way Pivot handles things with regard to BXML files -- all this would be the same if you were developing an Eclipse app or a Swing application.
And, there is no requirement to use BXML files within Pivot -- a perfectly reasonable Pivot application can be developed that creates everything dynamically, as is often done with Swing applications. BXML provides, IMO, a much more convenient method for specifying the UI layout, but it is not at all required in order to develop Pivot applications.
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Resolved] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Sandro Martini (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sandro Martini resolved PIVOT-840.
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Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: (was: 2.0.3)
2.0.2
Resolved.
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials, web-site
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Updated] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Sandro Martini (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sandro Martini updated PIVOT-840:
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Component/s: tutorials
Description:
All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
was:
All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface. All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops. If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
Priority: Minor (was: Major)
Fix Version/s: 2.0.2
Assignee: Sandro Martini
Labels: application bxml demos documentation tutorials (was: )
Issue Type: Improvement (was: Bug)
Summary: Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application (was: No instructions on how to use BXML in an application)
First I think that before opening an issue like this (with the chosen words) it would be better to discuss (and ask to us some more info) on our mailing lists ...
>This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
I seriously doubt it ... ScriptApplication usually is used as a convenience to run simple applications.
As a workaround you can create a class to execute your application, like described in our Tutorials ...
In next days I'll post some update on this, with a link to discussion in mailing list, so here we can write only sthings to improve and steps to do (if needed).
In the meantime, if you have a test case (with a detailed description of steps) and/or if you have a minimal test application, attach here inside a zip so we can look at it better.
Sandro
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on
how to use BXML in an application
Posted by "Sandro Martini (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sandro Martini edited comment on PIVOT-840 at 5/14/12 1:57 PM:
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Resolved.
Some basic info even here:
http://apache-pivot-users.399431.n3.nabble.com/Error-Application-class-name-is-required-td3954507.html
was (Author: smartini):
Resolved.
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials, web-site
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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Sandro Martini updated PIVOT-840:
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> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.2
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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[jira] [Updated] (PIVOT-840) Improve instructions on how to use
BXML in an application
Posted by "Sandro Martini (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sandro Martini updated PIVOT-840:
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Component/s: web-site
Affects Version/s: (was: 2.0.2)
(was: 2.0.1)
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials, web-site
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.3
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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Sandro Martini updated PIVOT-840:
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Affects Version/s: 2.0.2
Fix Version/s: (was: 2.0.2)
2.0.3
> Improve instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: demos, tutorials
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1, 2.0.2
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
> Assignee: Sandro Martini
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: application, bxml, demos, documentation, tutorials
> Fix For: 2.0.3
>
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface.
> All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
> This is a "show- stopper" making Pivot's BXML mechanism unusable for most applications, in particular desktops.
> If people are to use BXML for most applications, some deployment instructions are seriously needed...
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> No instructions on how to use BXML in an application
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PIVOT-840
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-840
> Project: Pivot
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: demos
> Affects Versions: 2.0.1
> Environment: All Environments
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
>
> All demos and documentation emphasize the use of BXML for specifying the user interface. All demos are implemented as applets where the system is apparently able to "find" the BXML file that it needs to create the UI.
> Unfortunately, when anyone attempts to use BXML in an actual desktop application, using the proper "ScriptApplication" class and setting the "src" property, the application keeps generating an error saying that it "cannot find" the BXML file.
> There are no instructions anywhere in the documentation about deploying a BXML file with a Pivot application. There is nothing saying where the file should be, how to get the ScriptApplication to find it, or any demos showing how to deploy a desktop application in general. There are no real instructions even for deploying BXML- based Applets!
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