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Posted to dev@roller.apache.org by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> on 2014/07/18 15:34:16 UTC

Retire three blog entry plugins?

Hi team, we have four blog entry plugins that we deactivate by default 
in our roller.properties file, meaning not many even know about them.  
(Three we do keep active: smiley plugin, convert line breaks plugin, 
obfuscate email plugin, seem all good to keep.)  I'm inclined to remove 
three of them from Roller trunk:

a) GoogleLinkPlugin: allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a Google 
search within his blog entry
b) WikipediaLinkPlugin:  allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a 
Wikipedia Link within his blog entry
c) Bookmark Plugin:  Automatically hyperlinks within the blog entry 
every time a word matches an entry in a blog roll.

For (a) and (b), people so infrequently hyperlink to Google Searches and 
Wikipedia (together they might amount to two percent of all blog 
hyperlinks) that I doubt most people blogging in raw HTML would take the 
effort to find out the specialized syntax for the plugin, and instead 
just type up a <a href="http://....">...</a> as they unthinkingly do for 
all the other hyperlinks.  And that's for people using the plain text 
editor, the rich text editor has a graphical icon for adding HTML links 
anyway.

(c) has similar problems, when you multiply the % of bloggers aware of 
this plugin by the % maintaining a substantive blog roll by the % who 
would want to use it (some would be concerned about false positives, its 
inability to work when the blogroll text is "Matt Raible's Blog" and the 
blog entry says Matt or Matt Raible, or that they just don't hyperlink 
to the blog roll main page that much, as opposed to permalinks within 
the blogs), we probably would get pretty close to zero.

WDYT?

The source code for these are here: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/roller/trunk/app/src/main/java/org/apache/roller/weblogger/business/plugins/entry/ 
.

Regards,
Glen


Re: Retire three blog entry plugins?

Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
They're gone now.

Glen

On 07/19/2014 04:34 PM, Matt Raible wrote:
> I don't use these plugins, so I'm +1 for removing them.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi team, we have four blog entry plugins that we deactivate by default in
>> our roller.properties file, meaning not many even know about them.  (Three
>> we do keep active: smiley plugin, convert line breaks plugin, obfuscate
>> email plugin, seem all good to keep.)  I'm inclined to remove three of them
>> from Roller trunk:
>>
>> a) GoogleLinkPlugin: allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a Google
>> search within his blog entry
>> b) WikipediaLinkPlugin:  allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a
>> Wikipedia Link within his blog entry
>> c) Bookmark Plugin:  Automatically hyperlinks within the blog entry every
>> time a word matches an entry in a blog roll.
>>
>> For (a) and (b), people so infrequently hyperlink to Google Searches and
>> Wikipedia (together they might amount to two percent of all blog
>> hyperlinks) that I doubt most people blogging in raw HTML would take the
>> effort to find out the specialized syntax for the plugin, and instead just
>> type up a <a href="http://....">...</a> as they unthinkingly do for all
>> the other hyperlinks.  And that's for people using the plain text editor,
>> the rich text editor has a graphical icon for adding HTML links anyway.
>>
>> (c) has similar problems, when you multiply the % of bloggers aware of
>> this plugin by the % maintaining a substantive blog roll by the % who would
>> want to use it (some would be concerned about false positives, its
>> inability to work when the blogroll text is "Matt Raible's Blog" and the
>> blog entry says Matt or Matt Raible, or that they just don't hyperlink to
>> the blog roll main page that much, as opposed to permalinks within the
>> blogs), we probably would get pretty close to zero.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> The source code for these are here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/
>> roller/trunk/app/src/main/java/org/apache/roller/
>> weblogger/business/plugins/entry/ .
>>
>> Regards,
>> Glen
>>
>>


Re: Retire three blog entry plugins?

Posted by Matt Raible <ma...@raibledesigns.com>.
I don't use these plugins, so I'm +1 for removing them.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi team, we have four blog entry plugins that we deactivate by default in
> our roller.properties file, meaning not many even know about them.  (Three
> we do keep active: smiley plugin, convert line breaks plugin, obfuscate
> email plugin, seem all good to keep.)  I'm inclined to remove three of them
> from Roller trunk:
>
> a) GoogleLinkPlugin: allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a Google
> search within his blog entry
> b) WikipediaLinkPlugin:  allows user to use a non-HTML syntax for a
> Wikipedia Link within his blog entry
> c) Bookmark Plugin:  Automatically hyperlinks within the blog entry every
> time a word matches an entry in a blog roll.
>
> For (a) and (b), people so infrequently hyperlink to Google Searches and
> Wikipedia (together they might amount to two percent of all blog
> hyperlinks) that I doubt most people blogging in raw HTML would take the
> effort to find out the specialized syntax for the plugin, and instead just
> type up a <a href="http://....">...</a> as they unthinkingly do for all
> the other hyperlinks.  And that's for people using the plain text editor,
> the rich text editor has a graphical icon for adding HTML links anyway.
>
> (c) has similar problems, when you multiply the % of bloggers aware of
> this plugin by the % maintaining a substantive blog roll by the % who would
> want to use it (some would be concerned about false positives, its
> inability to work when the blogroll text is "Matt Raible's Blog" and the
> blog entry says Matt or Matt Raible, or that they just don't hyperlink to
> the blog roll main page that much, as opposed to permalinks within the
> blogs), we probably would get pretty close to zero.
>
> WDYT?
>
> The source code for these are here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/
> roller/trunk/app/src/main/java/org/apache/roller/
> weblogger/business/plugins/entry/ .
>
> Regards,
> Glen
>
>