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Posted to dev@ode.apache.org by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> on 2007/06/20 03:38:32 UTC
Human Tasks
Alex Boisvert wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > was there much follow up to the dialog between Victor Panizza
> > > and Alex Boisvert from last October? Specifically related to
> > > Human Task activities.
> I don't remember the exact outcome, although I'm pretty sure I must
> have pointed Victor to http://tempo.intalio.org.
Yes, I also seem to recall that you did.
> We're open to bringing Tempo under the Apache umbrella if there's
> sufficient interest. It would be a good step towards building a
> more complete BPM solution at Apache.
Personally, I consider support for human participation in workflows to be
vital, so I'd be in favor of accepting a contribution to further that goal.
--- Noel
Re: Human Tasks
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
It's apparently going to be submitted to OASIS a bit later in the year:
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid26_gci1262143,00.html?track=NL-110&ad=594699&asrc=EM_NLN_1664249&uid=616380
Which isn't such a good news from the IP side, OASIS often produces
standards that aren't really open source friendly...
On 6/26/07, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> fyi:
>
> The final draft of BPEL4People is available.
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/specification/ws-bpel4people/?S_TACT=105AGX04&S_CMP=HP
>
> However I'm wondering whether the namespace
> http://www.example.org/BPEL4People is also somewhat final...
>
> Best regards,
> Tammo
>
> --
> Tammo van Lessen - tvanlessen@gmail.com - http://www.taval.de
>
Re: Human Tasks
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
fyi:
The final draft of BPEL4People is available.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/specification/ws-bpel4people/?S_TACT=105AGX04&S_CMP=HP
However I'm wondering whether the namespace
http://www.example.org/BPEL4People is also somewhat final...
Best regards,
Tammo
--
Tammo van Lessen - tvanlessen@gmail.com - http://www.taval.de
Re: Human Tasks
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
+1 for human participation (BPEL4PEOPLE)
I'd be interested in helping on this area...
On 6/19/07, Zubin Wadia <zw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 on the human participation piece. Absolutely critical.
>
> On 6/19/07, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/19/07, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Alex Boisvert wrote:
> > > > We're open to bringing Tempo under the Apache umbrella if there's
> > > > sufficient interest. It would be a good step towards building a
> > > > more complete BPM solution at Apache.
> > >
> > > Personally, I consider support for human participation in workflows to
> > be
> > > vital, so I'd be in favor of accepting a contribution to further that
> > > goal.
> >
> >
> > I think there's still several pieces missing to get a solid set of BPM
> > bricks in the ASF. ODE is just the first part but I'd personally like to
> > see
> > the following pieces implemented and made to work together:
> >
> > - a web service orchestration engine (ODE)
> > - human participation (could be Tempo)
> > - small footprint, embeddable process execution environment,
> > addressing the "programming in the small" set of problems (ala jbpm)
> >
> > There's much more than that to BPM but that's a lot of work already and we
> > can't dilute ourselves too much. However I think that's what we should
> > push
> > for.
> >
> > Matthieu
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Human Tasks
Posted by Zubin Wadia <zw...@gmail.com>.
+1 on the human participation piece. Absolutely critical.
On 6/19/07, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/19/07, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alex Boisvert wrote:
> > > We're open to bringing Tempo under the Apache umbrella if there's
> > > sufficient interest. It would be a good step towards building a
> > > more complete BPM solution at Apache.
> >
> > Personally, I consider support for human participation in workflows to
> be
> > vital, so I'd be in favor of accepting a contribution to further that
> > goal.
>
>
> I think there's still several pieces missing to get a solid set of BPM
> bricks in the ASF. ODE is just the first part but I'd personally like to
> see
> the following pieces implemented and made to work together:
>
> - a web service orchestration engine (ODE)
> - human participation (could be Tempo)
> - small footprint, embeddable process execution environment,
> addressing the "programming in the small" set of problems (ala jbpm)
>
> There's much more than that to BPM but that's a lot of work already and we
> can't dilute ourselves too much. However I think that's what we should
> push
> for.
>
> Matthieu
>
Re: Human Tasks
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 6/19/07, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
>
> Alex Boisvert wrote:
> > We're open to bringing Tempo under the Apache umbrella if there's
> > sufficient interest. It would be a good step towards building a
> > more complete BPM solution at Apache.
>
> Personally, I consider support for human participation in workflows to be
> vital, so I'd be in favor of accepting a contribution to further that
> goal.
I think there's still several pieces missing to get a solid set of BPM
bricks in the ASF. ODE is just the first part but I'd personally like to see
the following pieces implemented and made to work together:
- a web service orchestration engine (ODE)
- human participation (could be Tempo)
- small footprint, embeddable process execution environment,
addressing the "programming in the small" set of problems (ala jbpm)
There's much more than that to BPM but that's a lot of work already and we
can't dilute ourselves too much. However I think that's what we should push
for.
Matthieu