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Posted to user@pivot.apache.org by Brian Reilly <br...@ireilly.com> on 2010/06/17 17:41:21 UTC
Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Greetings,
I've searched for an answer to this, but haven't found any solutions. It
seems like the demos at pivot.apache.org require Java 6. However, on Mac OS
X 10.5 (Leopard), the only Java 6 is 64-bit, so the plugin won't launch in a
32-bit browser (which they all seem to want to run in for plugin
compatibility). Is there a way to get around this to view the demos? I'm
finding it doesn't make a good impression to suggest taking a look at Pivot
and for the demos to not work. Thanks.
-Brian
Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>.
Maybe this is helpful?
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:48 PM, aappddeevv wrote:
> Is there similar guidance on Windows 7. I run 64 bit but also have 32 bit installed. I am unable to get any pivot application running from the web sites on any version or browser (across 3 of browser including ie32, ie64). Java seems to time-out on something or never start properly. I’ve not found any log files that help either.
>
>
> From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbrown@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:03 PM
> To: user@pivot.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> As you noted, Pivot requires Java 6. I'm not sure why Apple chose not to provide a 32-bit version of Java 6 for OS X, but unfortunately it does mean that running Pivot apps in a web browser on OS X requires Snow Leopard or better. Pivot apps run on the desktop in OS X 10.5 should work fine. I have heard that you may be able to get Java 6 to run in the browser by selecting the "Run applets in their own process" checkbox in the Java preferences, but I'm not currently able to verify this myself (I am running 10.6).
>
> As a workaround, you can deploy your application via JNLP to users who are still on 10.5. You don't need to do anything special in your code to enable this - Pivot applications run the same on the desktop or in the browser.
>
> Sorry I don't have a better answer for you. Hope this helps.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Brian Reilly wrote:
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've searched for an answer to this, but haven't found any solutions. It seems like the demos at pivot.apache.org require Java 6. However, on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), the only Java 6 is 64-bit, so the plugin won't launch in a 32-bit browser (which they all seem to want to run in for plugin compatibility). Is there a way to get around this to view the demos? I'm finding it doesn't make a good impression to suggest taking a look at Pivot and for the demos to not work. Thanks.
>
> -Brian
>
>
Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>.
I don't have access to a Windows 7 install, so I don't really know. Do all applets fail to launch, or just Pivot applications?
On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:48 PM, aappddeevv wrote:
> Is there similar guidance on Windows 7. I run 64 bit but also have 32 bit installed. I am unable to get any pivot application running from the web sites on any version or browser (across 3 of browser including ie32, ie64). Java seems to time-out on something or never start properly. I’ve not found any log files that help either.
>
>
> From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbrown@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:03 PM
> To: user@pivot.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> As you noted, Pivot requires Java 6. I'm not sure why Apple chose not to provide a 32-bit version of Java 6 for OS X, but unfortunately it does mean that running Pivot apps in a web browser on OS X requires Snow Leopard or better. Pivot apps run on the desktop in OS X 10.5 should work fine. I have heard that you may be able to get Java 6 to run in the browser by selecting the "Run applets in their own process" checkbox in the Java preferences, but I'm not currently able to verify this myself (I am running 10.6).
>
> As a workaround, you can deploy your application via JNLP to users who are still on 10.5. You don't need to do anything special in your code to enable this - Pivot applications run the same on the desktop or in the browser.
>
> Sorry I don't have a better answer for you. Hope this helps.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Brian Reilly wrote:
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've searched for an answer to this, but haven't found any solutions. It seems like the demos at pivot.apache.org require Java 6. However, on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), the only Java 6 is 64-bit, so the plugin won't launch in a 32-bit browser (which they all seem to want to run in for plugin compatibility). Is there a way to get around this to view the demos? I'm finding it doesn't make a good impression to suggest taking a look at Pivot and for the demos to not work. Thanks.
>
> -Brian
>
>
RE: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by aappddeevv <aa...@verizon.net>.
Thanks for the insight. I did not realize that order was so important.
The local tomcat did allow me to start the pages. I had the STS version from
spring installed. Hit the start button on the server instance after dropping
the wars into the webapp.
However, it looks like the java install order is my fundamental problem.
I'll start reinstalling and see if I have the same success. I believe that
the 32 bit jre installed after the 64 bit jre.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandro Martini [mailto:sandro.martini@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:11 PM
To: user@pivot.apache.org
Subject: Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Hi,
> Is there similar guidance on Windows 7. I run 64 bit but also have 32 bit
> installed. I am unable to get any pivot application running from the web
> sites on any version or browser (across 3 of browser including ie32,
ie64).
> Java seems to time-out on something or never start properly. I've not
found
> any log files that help either.
my primary development and test PC is a Windows 7 @ 64 bit, with JDK 6
update 18 at 64 bit installed (and related JRE), and then I have
installed manually also the JRE 6 update 20 at 32 bit (and for the JRE
always install BEFORE the 64 bit, and then also the 32 bit version to
ensure that non-64 bit native apps can use the 32 bit version), and
all works to me (applets, applications, and Web Start Demos).
Attention that in this mixed setup there is only 1 Java Control Panel
visible, and the same apply only to 1 jre for the auto-update ... and
this is not the best for Java.
Another trick is to try to run Pivot Applets/Applications from Pivot
Demos/Tutorials WARs deployed in a local Server (Tomcat 6.x or other)
to avoid network problems ...
Tell me if you still have problems but before any test, try to remove
all JRE and reinstall in the same order.
If these tricks works also for other users maybe we could put in Pivot
FAQ or Wiki ... Greg, what do you think ?
Bye,
Sandro
Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
> Is there similar guidance on Windows 7. I run 64 bit but also have 32 bit
> installed. I am unable to get any pivot application running from the web
> sites on any version or browser (across 3 of browser including ie32, ie64).
> Java seems to time-out on something or never start properly. I’ve not found
> any log files that help either.
my primary development and test PC is a Windows 7 @ 64 bit, with JDK 6
update 18 at 64 bit installed (and related JRE), and then I have
installed manually also the JRE 6 update 20 at 32 bit (and for the JRE
always install BEFORE the 64 bit, and then also the 32 bit version to
ensure that non-64 bit native apps can use the 32 bit version), and
all works to me (applets, applications, and Web Start Demos).
Attention that in this mixed setup there is only 1 Java Control Panel
visible, and the same apply only to 1 jre for the auto-update ... and
this is not the best for Java.
Another trick is to try to run Pivot Applets/Applications from Pivot
Demos/Tutorials WARs deployed in a local Server (Tomcat 6.x or other)
to avoid network problems ...
Tell me if you still have problems but before any test, try to remove
all JRE and reinstall in the same order.
If these tricks works also for other users maybe we could put in Pivot
FAQ or Wiki ... Greg, what do you think ?
Bye,
Sandro
RE: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by aappddeevv <aa...@verizon.net>.
Is there similar guidance on Windows 7. I run 64 bit but also have 32 bit
installed. I am unable to get any pivot application running from the web
sites on any version or browser (across 3 of browser including ie32, ie64).
Java seems to time-out on something or never start properly. I've not found
any log files that help either.
From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbrown@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:03 PM
To: user@pivot.apache.org
Subject: Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Hi Brian,
As you noted, Pivot requires Java 6. I'm not sure why Apple chose not to
provide a 32-bit version of Java 6 for OS X, but unfortunately it does mean
that running Pivot apps in a web browser on OS X requires Snow Leopard or
better. Pivot apps run on the desktop in OS X 10.5 should work fine. I have
heard that you may be able to get Java 6 to run in the browser by selecting
the "Run applets in their own process" checkbox in the Java preferences, but
I'm not currently able to verify this myself (I am running 10.6).
As a workaround, you can deploy your application via JNLP to users who are
still on 10.5. You don't need to do anything special in your code to enable
this - Pivot applications run the same on the desktop or in the browser.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you. Hope this helps.
Greg
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Brian Reilly wrote:
Greetings,
I've searched for an answer to this, but haven't found any solutions. It
seems like the demos at pivot.apache.org <http://pivot.apache.org/> require
Java 6. However, on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), the only Java 6 is 64-bit, so
the plugin won't launch in a 32-bit browser (which they all seem to want to
run in for plugin compatibility). Is there a way to get around this to view
the demos? I'm finding it doesn't make a good impression to suggest taking a
look at Pivot and for the demos to not work. Thanks.
-Brian
Re: Running demos on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>.
Hi Brian,
As you noted, Pivot requires Java 6. I'm not sure why Apple chose not to provide a 32-bit version of Java 6 for OS X, but unfortunately it does mean that running Pivot apps in a web browser on OS X requires Snow Leopard or better. Pivot apps run on the desktop in OS X 10.5 should work fine. I have heard that you may be able to get Java 6 to run in the browser by selecting the "Run applets in their own process" checkbox in the Java preferences, but I'm not currently able to verify this myself (I am running 10.6).
As a workaround, you can deploy your application via JNLP to users who are still on 10.5. You don't need to do anything special in your code to enable this - Pivot applications run the same on the desktop or in the browser.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you. Hope this helps.
Greg
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Brian Reilly wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've searched for an answer to this, but haven't found any solutions. It seems like the demos at pivot.apache.org require Java 6. However, on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), the only Java 6 is 64-bit, so the plugin won't launch in a 32-bit browser (which they all seem to want to run in for plugin compatibility). Is there a way to get around this to view the demos? I'm finding it doesn't make a good impression to suggest taking a look at Pivot and for the demos to not work. Thanks.
>
> -Brian
>