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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> on 2010/07/13 12:05:41 UTC
Shared bundle repository
I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
we do it the same way.
I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
downstream users.
Thoughts ?
Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
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Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
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Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com>.
+1
Freeman
On 2010-7-13, at 下午6:05, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Freeman Fang
------------------------
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Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Lars Heinemann <lh...@apache.org>.
I fully agree. A single point for bundles is really a great idea.
Maybe we should try to get a svn repo folder just for that and allow
all asf committers access there.
Lars
2010/7/13 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
--
http://lhein.blogspot.com
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Lars Heinemann <lh...@apache.org>.
I fully agree. A single point for bundles is really a great idea.
Maybe we should try to get a svn repo folder just for that and allow
all asf committers access there.
Lars
2010/7/13 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
--
http://lhein.blogspot.com
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
As ServiceMix, Aries, Felix, Karaf (and probably other Apache project that I
don't know) uses bundles, this seems more logic that we create something
related to osgi stuffs under Apache umbrella (for all the bundles where
Apache license is applicable)
So, why not creating something like --> Apache OSGI repository (=
maven/nexus repo that we can browse or make search from the web, ...)
Charles
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>wrote:
> Hmmm. You're right - this might be tricky territory; particularly as
> Charles mentioned concerning bundling of non-Apache-Licensed bundles. The
> common-ground project would need create/distribute bundles under a selection
> of licenses. Still, there's got to be a way!
>
> Perhaps the best home for this might be as a sub-project of the Karaf or
> Felix project? This would keep the repository tied to a neutral ground. As I
> think about it, Karaf might be best, as the resulting bundles would work
> with Felix or Equinox or whatever OSGi distribution is being used.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:47
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Re: Shared bundle repository
>
> Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
> there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
> to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
> I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
> third party libraries though ...
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Guillaume,
> >
> > I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great;
> far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it
> rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in
> an ad-hoc manner.
> >
> > Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not
> create a new Apache project for this?
> >
> > Best,
> > Ade.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> > To: dev; dev
> > Subject: Shared bundle repository
> >
> > I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> > we do it the same way.
> > I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> > for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> > I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> > benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> > downstream users.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> > process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Guillaume Nodet
> > ------------------------
> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> > ------------------------
> > Open Source SOA
> > http://fusesource.com
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
As ServiceMix, Aries, Felix, Karaf (and probably other Apache project that I
don't know) uses bundles, this seems more logic that we create something
related to osgi stuffs under Apache umbrella (for all the bundles where
Apache license is applicable)
So, why not creating something like --> Apache OSGI repository (=
maven/nexus repo that we can browse or make search from the web, ...)
Charles
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>wrote:
> Hmmm. You're right - this might be tricky territory; particularly as
> Charles mentioned concerning bundling of non-Apache-Licensed bundles. The
> common-ground project would need create/distribute bundles under a selection
> of licenses. Still, there's got to be a way!
>
> Perhaps the best home for this might be as a sub-project of the Karaf or
> Felix project? This would keep the repository tied to a neutral ground. As I
> think about it, Karaf might be best, as the resulting bundles would work
> with Felix or Equinox or whatever OSGi distribution is being used.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:47
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Re: Shared bundle repository
>
> Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
> there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
> to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
> I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
> third party libraries though ...
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Guillaume,
> >
> > I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great;
> far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it
> rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in
> an ad-hoc manner.
> >
> > Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not
> create a new Apache project for this?
> >
> > Best,
> > Ade.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> > To: dev; dev
> > Subject: Shared bundle repository
> >
> > I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> > we do it the same way.
> > I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> > for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> > I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> > benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> > downstream users.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> > process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Guillaume Nodet
> > ------------------------
> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> > ------------------------
> > Open Source SOA
> > http://fusesource.com
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
RE: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hmmm. You're right - this might be tricky territory; particularly as Charles mentioned concerning bundling of non-Apache-Licensed bundles. The common-ground project would need create/distribute bundles under a selection of licenses. Still, there's got to be a way!
Perhaps the best home for this might be as a sub-project of the Karaf or Felix project? This would keep the repository tied to a neutral ground. As I think about it, Karaf might be best, as the resulting bundles would work with Felix or Equinox or whatever OSGi distribution is being used.
________________________________________
From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 July 2010 11:47
To: dev; dev
Subject: Re: Shared bundle repository
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
third party libraries though ...
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
>
> Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
>
> Best,
> Ade.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Shared bundle repository
>
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
RE: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hmmm. You're right - this might be tricky territory; particularly as Charles mentioned concerning bundling of non-Apache-Licensed bundles. The common-ground project would need create/distribute bundles under a selection of licenses. Still, there's got to be a way!
Perhaps the best home for this might be as a sub-project of the Karaf or Felix project? This would keep the repository tied to a neutral ground. As I think about it, Karaf might be best, as the resulting bundles would work with Felix or Equinox or whatever OSGi distribution is being used.
________________________________________
From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 July 2010 11:47
To: dev; dev
Subject: Re: Shared bundle repository
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
third party libraries though ...
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
>
> Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
>
> Best,
> Ade.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Shared bundle repository
>
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
third party libraries though ...
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
>
> Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
>
> Best,
> Ade.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Shared bundle repository
>
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
A shared repository is required for osgi bundles.
But if we host it under Apache umbrella, it will not be possible for users
to get jars of project not using an Apache license (e.g. hibernate, oracle,
...) but perhaps this is another debate.
Kind regards,
Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
Apache Camel - ServiceMix Committer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com | Twitter :
http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard | Skype: cmoulliard
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far
> better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather
> than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an
> ad-hoc manner.
>
> Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not
> create a new Apache project for this?
>
> Best,
> Ade.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Shared bundle repository
>
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting a subproject of SMX or Geronimo. I think
there are other projects like Ace, Sling, Aries that could contribute
to that too. So definitely a common ground would be a good idea.
I'm not sure if the board would approve a project solely for releasing
third party libraries though ...
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
>
> Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
>
> Best,
> Ade.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
> To: dev; dev
> Subject: Shared bundle repository
>
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
RE: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hi Guillaume,
I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
Best,
Ade.
________________________________________
From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
To: dev; dev
Subject: Shared bundle repository
I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
we do it the same way.
I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
downstream users.
Thoughts ?
Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
RE: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hi Guillaume,
I think a shared repository for OSGi bundles at Apache would be great; far better to have one well-known place with lots of activity around it rather than have multiple repositories each being only partly maintained in an ad-hoc manner.
Rather than have this as a sub-project of either SMX or Geronimo, why not create a new Apache project for this?
Best,
Ade.
________________________________________
From: Guillaume Nodet [gnodet@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 July 2010 11:05
To: dev; dev
Subject: Shared bundle repository
I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
we do it the same way.
I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
downstream users.
Thoughts ?
Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: Shared bundle repository
Posted by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com>.
+1
Freeman
On 2010-7-13, at 下午6:05, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I guess we're not the only projects at Apache doing that, but at least
> we do it the same way.
> I wonder if we could cooperate more closely and have a common ground
> for releasing such bundles and making them available to others.
> I think having a single point to find OSGi bundles would be a great
> benefit for all OSGi-fied projects at Apache and also for the
> downstream users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Btw, I'm just starting this thread because I've seen Rick is in the
> process of releasing some bundles in Geronimo ...
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
--
Freeman Fang
------------------------
Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
Apache Servicemix:http://servicemix.apache.org
Apache Cxf: http://cxf.apache.org
Apache Karaf: http://karaf.apache.org
Apache Felix: http://felix.apache.org