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Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis graduated
10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 20:58, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> On 10/29/2010 11:42 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>> On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>>
>>> FYI, this is now done.
>>
>> I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
>> well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
>> Can you copy them as well?
>
> Yup, done, and I'll shuffle a bit to match the structure Andreas pointed to.
Glen, can you please make that converge to the final structure? I
started to clean up the Axis2 Maven site and fix the broken links. We
need to finalize the site structure, so that I can insert the correct
links to the other projects.
Andreas
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 20:58, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> On 10/29/2010 11:42 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>> On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>>
>>> FYI, this is now done.
>>
>> I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
>> well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
>> Can you copy them as well?
>
> Yup, done, and I'll shuffle a bit to match the structure Andreas pointed to.
Glen, can you please make that converge to the final structure? I
started to clean up the Axis2 Maven site and fix the broken links. We
need to finalize the site structure, so that I can insert the correct
links to the other projects.
Andreas
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/29/2010 11:42 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>
>> FYI, this is now done.
>
> I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
> well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
> Can you copy them as well?
Yup, done, and I'll shuffle a bit to match the structure Andreas pointed to.
--Glen
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/29/2010 11:42 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>
>> FYI, this is now done.
>
> I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
> well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
> Can you copy them as well?
Yup, done, and I'll shuffle a bit to match the structure Andreas pointed to.
--Glen
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>
> FYI, this is now done.
I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
Can you copy them as well?
> Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
That's perfect. Thanks for tackling this.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Friday 29 October 2010 11:35:37 am Glen Daniels wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> > cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>
> FYI, this is now done.
I think there are a few others. I see rampart, savan, and sandesha as
well. I THINK they go (100% sure on rampart, not so sure about the others).
Can you copy them as well?
> Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
That's perfect. Thanks for tackling this.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 18:27, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/25/2010 12:19 PM, jehanzeb.qayyum@gmail.com wrote:
>> Please remove me from list.
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> Thanks,
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It might actually be a bit more complicated than that. It could be
that they are hitting a spam filter when sending to
dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org. I think it's not a coincidence that all
these people are sending mail in HTML. My recommendation to the people
who have difficulties to unsubscribe: use plain text, add a subject
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sure that the mail is not considered as spam.
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/25/2010 12:19 PM, jehanzeb.qayyum@gmail.com wrote:
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RE: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
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Yes, that is what Dan suggested. We should try it, and if it works, case closed.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:39, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
>> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org>
>> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>>>
>>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
>>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
>>> setup with things like:
>>>
>>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>>>
>>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
>>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
>>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org> site in the URL's
>>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org> site.
>>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
>>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>>>
>>> ssh people.apache.org<http://people.apache.org>
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis<http://ws.apache.org/axis> /www/axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org>
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2<http://ws.apache.org/axis2> /www/axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org>
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c<http://ws.apache.org/axis2-c> /www/axis.apache.org<http://axis.apache.org>
>>> etc....
>>>
>>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
>>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
>>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
>>> verify the redirects will work properly)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>>
>>>> <sa...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
>>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>> >
>>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>>>> > much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sanjiva.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org<http://ws.apache.org> over to your own space.
>>>> >> Axis graduated
>>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Daniel Kulp
>>>> >> dkulp@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
>>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>> >
>>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
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> Yes, that is what Dan suggested. We should try it, and if it works, case
> closed.
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:39, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
> > <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
> >> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
> >> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Andreas,
> >>>
> >>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
> >>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
> >>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
> >>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
> >>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
> >>>
> >>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis
> space, we
> >>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an
> .htaccess file
> >>> setup with things like:
> >>>
> >>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
> >>>
> >>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks
> and such
> >>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The
> good
> >>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in
> the URL's
> >>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.orgsite.
> >>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the
> resistance.
> >>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less
> than:
> >>>
> >>> ssh people.apache.org
> >>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> >>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> >>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
> >>> etc....
> >>>
> >>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such),
> we can
> >>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that
> really needs
> >>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until
> we can
> >>> verify the redirects will work properly)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Andreas
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >>>>
> >>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some
> history
> >>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project
> -
> >>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other
> things
> >>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored
> by
> >>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
> >>>> > much.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sanjiva.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory
> and
> >>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
> >>>> >> Axis graduated
> >>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Daniel Kulp
> >>>> >> dkulp@apache.org
> >>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
> >>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation;
> http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
> http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Daniel Kulp
> >>> dkulp@apache.org
> >>> http://dankulp.com/blog
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Yes, that is what Dan suggested. We should try it, and if it works, case
closed.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:39, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
>> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
>> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>>>
>>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis
space, we
>>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an
.htaccess file
>>> setup with things like:
>>>
>>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>>>
>>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks
and such
>>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The
good
>>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in
the URL's
>>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org
site.
>>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the
resistance.
>>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less
than:
>>>
>>> ssh people.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>> etc....
>>>
>>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and
such), we can
>>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that
really needs
>>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now
until we can
>>> verify the redirects will work properly)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>>
>>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some
history
>>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project
-
>>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other
things
>>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>> >
>>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was
anchored by
>>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you
so
>>>> > much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sanjiva.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory
and
>>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>>>> >> Axis graduated
>>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Daniel Kulp
>>>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation;
http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>> >
>>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Yes, that is what Dan suggested. We should try it, and if it works, case
closed.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:39, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
>> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
>> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>>>
>>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis
space, we
>>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an
.htaccess file
>>> setup with things like:
>>>
>>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>>>
>>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks
and such
>>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The
good
>>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in
the URL's
>>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org
site.
>>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the
resistance.
>>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less
than:
>>>
>>> ssh people.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>> etc....
>>>
>>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and
such), we can
>>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that
really needs
>>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now
until we can
>>> verify the redirects will work properly)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>>
>>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some
history
>>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project
-
>>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other
things
>>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>> >
>>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was
anchored by
>>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you
so
>>>> > much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sanjiva.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory
and
>>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>>>> >> Axis graduated
>>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Daniel Kulp
>>>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation;
http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>> >
>>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Yes, that is what Dan suggested. We should try it, and if it works, case closed.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:39, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
>> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
>> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>>>
>>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
>>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
>>> setup with things like:
>>>
>>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>>>
>>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
>>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
>>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
>>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
>>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
>>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>>>
>>> ssh people.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>> etc....
>>>
>>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
>>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
>>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
>>> verify the redirects will work properly)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>>
>>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>> >
>>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>>>> > much.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sanjiva.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>>>> >> Axis graduated
>>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Daniel Kulp
>>>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>> >
>>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
There are .htaccess solutions to those issues.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andreas Veithen
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
> have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
> before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Andreas,
>>
>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>>
>> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
>> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
>> setup with things like:
>>
>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>>
>> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
>> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
>> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
>> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
>> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
>> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>>
>> ssh people.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>> etc....
>>
>> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
>> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
>> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
>> verify the redirects will work properly)
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>
>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>> >
>>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>>> > much.
>>> >
>>> > Sanjiva.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>>> >> Axis graduated
>>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Daniel Kulp
>>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>> >
>>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
Thanks,
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Andreas,
>
> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>
> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
> setup with things like:
>
> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>
> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>
> ssh people.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
> etc....
>
> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
> verify the redirects will work properly)
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>
>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>> >
>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>> > much.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>> >> Axis graduated
>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Kulp
>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >
>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
There are several projects that use .htaccess files to redirect. Here
is an example:
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from All
Deny from 193.232.252.33
Deny from 193.124.215.195
Redirect /axis/wsif http://ws.apache.org/wsif
Redirect /axis http://ws.apache.org/axis
All the .htaccess files that I had a look at have these allow/deny
rules. Does anybody know what they are good for?
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Andreas,
>
> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>
> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
> setup with things like:
>
> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>
> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>
> ssh people.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
> etc....
>
> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
> verify the redirects will work properly)
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>
>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>> >
>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>> > much.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>> >> Axis graduated
>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Kulp
>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >
>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
Hi Andreas,
I'll see what I can do to move things around before setting up the redirects,
and will holler if anything looks particularly challenging.
--Glen
On 10/29/2010 11:51 AM, Andreas Veithen wrote:
> Glen,
>
> Can you try to make that consistent with the discussion in [1], i.e.
> either do it as described in that discussion, or if you believe that
> this is not the best solution, propose another one?
>
> Andreas
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/xztnna4sfy2tzfq7
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 17:35, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>
>> FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
>> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
Hi Andreas,
I'll see what I can do to move things around before setting up the redirects,
and will holler if anything looks particularly challenging.
--Glen
On 10/29/2010 11:51 AM, Andreas Veithen wrote:
> Glen,
>
> Can you try to make that consistent with the discussion in [1], i.e.
> either do it as described in that discussion, or if you believe that
> this is not the best solution, propose another one?
>
> Andreas
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/xztnna4sfy2tzfq7
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 17:35, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>>
>> FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
>> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Glen,
Can you try to make that consistent with the discussion in [1], i.e.
either do it as described in that discussion, or if you believe that
this is not the best solution, propose another one?
Andreas
[1] http://markmail.org/thread/xztnna4sfy2tzfq7
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 17:35, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>
> FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Glen,
Can you try to make that consistent with the discussion in [1], i.e.
either do it as described in that discussion, or if you believe that
this is not the best solution, propose another one?
Andreas
[1] http://markmail.org/thread/xztnna4sfy2tzfq7
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 17:35, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
>> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
>
> FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
> servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
Thanks,
--Glen
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
If there is a solution for the problem I mentioned, then of course I
have no objection to moving/copying the stuff over to axis.apache.org
before the revamped Axis2 Maven site is ready.
Thanks,
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Andreas,
>
> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>
> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
> setup with things like:
>
> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>
> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>
> ssh people.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
> etc....
>
> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
> verify the redirects will work properly)
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>
>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>> >
>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>> > much.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>> >> Axis graduated
>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Kulp
>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >
>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
There are several projects that use .htaccess files to redirect. Here
is an example:
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from All
Deny from 193.232.252.33
Deny from 193.124.215.195
Redirect /axis/wsif http://ws.apache.org/wsif
Redirect /axis http://ws.apache.org/axis
All the .htaccess files that I had a look at have these allow/deny
rules. Does anybody know what they are good for?
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:24, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Andreas,
>
> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
>> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
>> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
>> Axis2 1.6 out.
>
> If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
> could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
> setup with things like:
>
> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
>
> or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
> should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
> thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
> and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
> That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
> The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
>
> ssh people.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
> etc....
>
> Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
> start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
> to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
> verify the redirects will work properly)
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>
>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>> >
>> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
>> > much.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
>> >> Axis graduated
>> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Kulp
>> >> dkulp@apache.org
>> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> > http://www.opensource.lk/
>> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >
>> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/25/2010 11:24 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
> cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
FYI, this is now done. Once we see the content show up on the front-facing
servers, we can start playing with the redirects.
Thanks,
--Glen
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Andreas,
On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
> Axis2 1.6 out.
If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
setup with things like:
RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
ssh people.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
etc....
Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
verify the redirects will work properly)
Dan
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
> >
> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
> > much.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
> >> Axis graduated
> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kulp
> >> dkulp@apache.org
> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
> >
> > --
> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> > http://www.opensource.lk/
> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >
> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Andreas,
On Monday 25 October 2010 10:09:21 am Andreas Veithen wrote:
> That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
> Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
> case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
> Axis2 1.6 out.
If someone would just cp the relevant directories over to the axis space, we
could easily work with infra (maybe we don't have to) to get an .htaccess file
setup with things like:
RedirectMatch Permanent ^/axis2(.*) http://axis.apache.org/axis2$1
or similar to make everything go right over there. Thus, bookmarks and such
should "just work" and links and such would just redirect over. The good
thing is that people would start to see the axis.apache.org site in the URL's
and such and newer people coming in will stay in the axis.apache.org site.
That is a GOOD thing for Axis. I really don't understand the resistance.
The amount of time and effort arguing about this is definitely less than:
ssh people.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis /www/axis.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2 /www/axis.apache.org
cp -a /www/ws.apache.org/axis2-c /www/axis.apache.org
etc....
Once the content is over there (and all the rsyncs triggered and such), we can
start working on getting the redirects setup and such. But that really needs
to be the first step. (and I'd use "cp" not "mv" for right now until we can
verify the redirects will work properly)
Dan
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
> > losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
> > that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
> >
> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
> > Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so
> > much.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
> >> other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space.
> >> Axis graduated
> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kulp
> >> dkulp@apache.org
> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
> >
> > --
> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> > http://www.opensource.lk/
> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >
> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
Axis2 1.6 out.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
> history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
> defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>
> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
> for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
>> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>> graduated
>> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
+1 .. thanks Benson for closing this off!
Sanjiva.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks benson, now it is there --Srinath
>
> --
> ============================
> Srinath Perera
> WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com
> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
+1 .. thanks Benson for closing this off!
Sanjiva.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks benson, now it is there --Srinath
>
> --
> ============================
> Srinath Perera
> WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com
> Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>.
thanks benson, now it is there --Srinath
--
============================
Srinath Perera
WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com
Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>.
thanks benson, now it is there --Srinath
--
============================
Srinath Perera
WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com
Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Done, I hope, subject to mirror propagation.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Benson I realize I have ABSOLUTELY no right to ask for prompt action given
> how long it took me to write one sentence .. but we do have a new Web site
> :). So if you can please put this into the project list.
> Cheers,
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
>> "Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
>> top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
>> Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while
>> (say thru 2011).
>> Thanks,
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch,
>>> as per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
>>>> you/Benson
>>>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>>>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>>
>>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>>
>>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>>>> some
>>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
>>>> ours
>>>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>>>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>>>> you
>>>> may wish for that to be the case.
>>>
>>> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org.
>>> What is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
It is on my list. I'll get there soon. I promise.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Benson I realize I have ABSOLUTELY no right to ask for prompt action given
> how long it took me to write one sentence .. but we do have a new Web site
> :). So if you can please put this into the project list.
> Cheers,
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
>> "Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
>> top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
>> Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while
>> (say thru 2011).
>> Thanks,
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch,
>>> as per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
>>>> you/Benson
>>>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>>>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>>
>>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>>
>>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>>>> some
>>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
>>>> ours
>>>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>>>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>>>> you
>>>> may wish for that to be the case.
>>>
>>> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org.
>>> What is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Done, I hope, subject to mirror propagation.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Benson I realize I have ABSOLUTELY no right to ask for prompt action given
> how long it took me to write one sentence .. but we do have a new Web site
> :). So if you can please put this into the project list.
> Cheers,
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
>> "Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
>> top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
>> Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while
>> (say thru 2011).
>> Thanks,
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch,
>>> as per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
>>>> you/Benson
>>>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>>>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>>
>>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>>
>>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>>>> some
>>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
>>>> ours
>>>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>>>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>>>> you
>>>> may wish for that to be the case.
>>>
>>> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org.
>>> What is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Benson I realize I have ABSOLUTELY no right to ask for prompt action given
how long it took me to write one sentence .. but we do have a new Web site
:). So if you can please put this into the project list.
Cheers,
Sanjiva.
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
> Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
>
> "Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
> top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
>
> Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while (say
> thru 2011).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sanjiva.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
>> per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <<s...@opensource.lk>
>> sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I noticed that <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org does not say a WORD
>>> about Axis after you/Benson
>>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>
>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>
>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>>> some
>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
>>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>>> you
>>> may wish for that to be the case.
>>
>>
>> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in
>> <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org. What is the final decision? Are we
>> going to have a history page?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Benson I realize I have ABSOLUTELY no right to ask for prompt action given
how long it took me to write one sentence .. but we do have a new Web site
:). So if you can please put this into the project list.
Cheers,
Sanjiva.
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
> Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
>
> "Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
> top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
>
> Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while (say
> thru 2011).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sanjiva.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
>> per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <<s...@opensource.lk>
>> sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I noticed that <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org does not say a WORD
>>> about Axis after you/Benson
>>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>
>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>
>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>>> some
>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
>>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>>> you
>>> may wish for that to be the case.
>>
>>
>> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in
>> <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org. What is the final decision? Are we
>> going to have a history page?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
"Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while (say
thru 2011).
Thanks,
Sanjiva.
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
> per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <<s...@opensource.lk>
> sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I noticed that <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org does not say a WORD
>> about Axis after you/Benson
>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>> some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>> you
>> may wish for that to be the case.
>
>
> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in
> <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org. What is the final decision? Are we
> going to have a history page?
>
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Sorry for the delay. Here's a short blurb:
"Looking for Axis2 or Axis? The Axis project has now graduated to its own
top level project: <a href="http://axis.apache.org/">axis.apache.org</a>."
Please put this in the project list - where it should stay for a while (say
thru 2011).
Thanks,
Sanjiva.
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
> per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <<s...@opensource.lk>
> sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I noticed that <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org does not say a WORD
>> about Axis after you/Benson
>> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
>> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>> some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
>> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
>> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
>> you
>> may wish for that to be the case.
>
>
> Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in
> <http://ws.apache.org>ws.apache.org. What is the final decision? Are we
> going to have a history page?
>
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
> you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
> you
> may wish for that to be the case.
Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org. What
is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
I am waiting for someone to provide the content in the form of a patch, as
per the tail of the long-ago conversation.
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
> you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
> you
> may wish for that to be the case.
Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org. What
is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
> you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
> you
> may wish for that to be the case.
Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org. What
is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
> Axis after you/Benson worked it over.
+1. That is clearly something that should be resolved, and we should have
both pointers to the "archived" projects and to Synapse and Axis2 for ease of
navigation and historical accuracy.
--Glen
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com>.
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
>> of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
>> copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
>> do
>> for web content).
>>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you
> may wish for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
+1
I strongly believe we need to keep links to Axis2 projects whether it is
a TLP or not. In addition we may also adds link to CXF.
Deepal
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Afkham Azeez <af...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk>wrote:
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
> you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much
> you
> may wish for that to be the case.
Still I do not see any mention about Axis, Axis2 etc. in ws.apache.org. What
is the final decision? Are we going to have a history page?
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:54:23 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:47, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use
> > a single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still
> > a bunch of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure)
> > that go to the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
> >
> > I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site
> > over to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
>
> Actually, I meant http://wiki.apache.org/ws/.
>
Oh. Right. I have no idea how to do that one. Someone else will need to
pick that up. :-)
--
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dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:54:23 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:47, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use
> > a single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still
> > a bunch of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure)
> > that go to the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
> >
> > I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site
> > over to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
>
> Actually, I meant http://wiki.apache.org/ws/.
>
Oh. Right. I have no idea how to do that one. Someone else will need to
pick that up. :-)
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:47, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 3:44:42 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> >> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
>> >> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
>> >> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>> >>
>> >> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
>> >> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
>> >
>> > Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org
>> > now.
>>
>> Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
>> configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
>> list? Or has this already been done?
>
> I've been working on it. SVN is done. It's now simplified down to just:
>
> # Webservices
> [/webservices]
> for_paths = webservices/
> to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
> bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
>
> so everything in /webservices goes to dev@
>
> I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use a
> single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still a bunch
> of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure) that go to
> the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
>
> I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site over
> to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
Actually, I meant http://wiki.apache.org/ws/.
> Dan
>
>
>
> # Webservices
> [/webservices]
> for_paths = webservices/
> to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
> bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
>
>
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Andreas
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webser
>> >> vi ces/site&author=bimargulies
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> wrote:
>> >> > <meta>
>> >> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
>> >> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
>> >> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
>> >> > of same.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
>> >> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> >> > </meta>
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community
>> >> > to want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
>> >> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
>> >> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty
>> >> > long for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects
>> >> > are out and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand,
>> >> > of course people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new
>> >> > plugin APIs.
>> >> >
>> >> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
>> >> >
>> >> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > --Glen
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> >> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an
>> >> >> adequate amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish
>> >> >> their job of moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months
>> >> >> of time, not one person was able to copy the content over (or update
>> >> >> poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a
>> >> >> WORD about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
>> >> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming
>> >> >> from two ASF Members.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> >> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put
>> >> >> back some history and context into this site. It is not your site or
>> >> >> mine; its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful
>> >> >> place Axis has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never
>> >> >> existed :) .. however much you may wish for that to be the case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sanjiva.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> >> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> >> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> >> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> >> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> >> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> >> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> >> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daniel Kulp
>> > dkulp@apache.org
>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:47, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 3:44:42 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> >> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
>> >> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
>> >> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>> >>
>> >> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
>> >> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
>> >
>> > Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org
>> > now.
>>
>> Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
>> configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
>> list? Or has this already been done?
>
> I've been working on it. SVN is done. It's now simplified down to just:
>
> # Webservices
> [/webservices]
> for_paths = webservices/
> to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
> bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
>
> so everything in /webservices goes to dev@
>
> I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use a
> single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still a bunch
> of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure) that go to
> the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
>
> I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site over
> to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
Actually, I meant http://wiki.apache.org/ws/.
> Dan
>
>
>
> # Webservices
> [/webservices]
> for_paths = webservices/
> to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
> bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
>
>
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Andreas
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webser
>> >> vi ces/site&author=bimargulies
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> wrote:
>> >> > <meta>
>> >> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
>> >> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
>> >> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
>> >> > of same.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
>> >> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> >> > </meta>
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community
>> >> > to want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
>> >> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
>> >> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty
>> >> > long for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects
>> >> > are out and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand,
>> >> > of course people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new
>> >> > plugin APIs.
>> >> >
>> >> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
>> >> >
>> >> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > --Glen
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> >> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an
>> >> >> adequate amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish
>> >> >> their job of moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months
>> >> >> of time, not one person was able to copy the content over (or update
>> >> >> poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a
>> >> >> WORD about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
>> >> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming
>> >> >> from two ASF Members.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> >> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put
>> >> >> back some history and context into this site. It is not your site or
>> >> >> mine; its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful
>> >> >> place Axis has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never
>> >> >> existed :) .. however much you may wish for that to be the case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sanjiva.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> >> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> >> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> >> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> >> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> >> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> >> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> >> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daniel Kulp
>> > dkulp@apache.org
>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:44:42 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> >> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
> >> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
> >> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
> >>
> >> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
> >> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
> >
> > Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org
> > now.
>
> Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
> configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
> list? Or has this already been done?
I've been working on it. SVN is done. It's now simplified down to just:
# Webservices
[/webservices]
for_paths = webservices/
to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
so everything in /webservices goes to dev@
I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use a
single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still a bunch
of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure) that go to
the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site over
to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
Dan
# Webservices
[/webservices]
for_paths = webservices/
to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
> > Dan
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webser
> >> vi ces/site&author=bimargulies
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
wrote:
> >> > <meta>
> >> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
> >> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
> >> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
> >> > of same.
> >> >
> >> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
> >> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> >> > </meta>
> >> >
> >> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community
> >> > to want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
> >> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
> >> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty
> >> > long for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects
> >> > are out and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand,
> >> > of course people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new
> >> > plugin APIs.
> >> >
> >> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
> >> >
> >> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > --Glen
> >> >
> >> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> >> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an
> >> >> adequate amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish
> >> >> their job of moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months
> >> >> of time, not one person was able to copy the content over (or update
> >> >> poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a
> >> >> WORD about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
> >> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming
> >> >> from two ASF Members.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> >> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
> >> >>
> >> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put
> >> >> back some history and context into this site. It is not your site or
> >> >> mine; its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful
> >> >> place Axis has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never
> >> >> existed :) .. however much you may wish for that to be the case.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sanjiva.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
> >> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >> >>
> >> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org
> > http://dankulp.com/blog
--
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dkulp@apache.org
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:44:42 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> >> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
> >> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
> >> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
> >>
> >> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
> >> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
> >
> > Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org
> > now.
>
> Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
> configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
> list? Or has this already been done?
I've been working on it. SVN is done. It's now simplified down to just:
# Webservices
[/webservices]
for_paths = webservices/
to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
so everything in /webservices goes to dev@
I worked a bit on JIRA this morning. All the "active" projects now use a
single "WS Notifications" scheme that got to dev@. There are still a bunch
of the older projects and Axis projects (and Tuscany, go figure) that go to
the old lists. Someone will probably need to updated them.
I don't think confluence goes anywhere yet as we haven't flipped the site over
to it. We probably should go ahead and wire that in.
Dan
# Webservices
[/webservices]
for_paths = webservices/
to_addr = dev@ws.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org
> > Dan
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webser
> >> vi ces/site&author=bimargulies
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
wrote:
> >> > <meta>
> >> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
> >> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
> >> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
> >> > of same.
> >> >
> >> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
> >> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> >> > </meta>
> >> >
> >> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community
> >> > to want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
> >> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
> >> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty
> >> > long for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects
> >> > are out and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand,
> >> > of course people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new
> >> > plugin APIs.
> >> >
> >> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
> >> >
> >> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > --Glen
> >> >
> >> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> >> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an
> >> >> adequate amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish
> >> >> their job of moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months
> >> >> of time, not one person was able to copy the content over (or update
> >> >> poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a
> >> >> WORD about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
> >> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming
> >> >> from two ASF Members.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> >> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
> >> >>
> >> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put
> >> >> back some history and context into this site. It is not your site or
> >> >> mine; its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful
> >> >> place Axis has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never
> >> >> existed :) .. however much you may wish for that to be the case.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sanjiva.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
> >> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >> >>
> >> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org
> > http://dankulp.com/blog
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
>> because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
>> to think about what the issue actually is.
>>
>> Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
>> modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
>> change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
>> somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
>> the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
>> actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
>> sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
>> /webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
>> be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
>> general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
>> previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
>> simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
>> that list.
>
> That, and the *@ws lists were not moderated lists. If they were moderated,
> the commit would have just been moderated through. Problem solved.
>
>> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
>> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
>> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>>
>> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
>> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
>
> Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org now.
Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
list? Or has this already been done?
> Dan
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> [1]
>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservi
>> ces/site&author=bimargulies
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> > <meta>
>> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
>> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
>> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
>> > of same.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
>> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> > </meta>
>> >
>> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
>> > want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
>> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
>> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long
>> > for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects are out
>> > and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand, of course
>> > people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs.
>> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
>> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > --Glen
>> >
>> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
>> >> amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of
>> >> moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one
>> >> person was able to copy the content over (or update poms and do a
>> >> site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD
>> >> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
>> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from
>> >> two ASF Members.
>> >>
>> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> >>
>> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>> >> some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine;
>> >> its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis
>> >> has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) ..
>> >> however much you may wish for that to be the case.
>> >>
>> >> Sanjiva.
>> >> --
>> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >>
>> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
>> because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
>> to think about what the issue actually is.
>>
>> Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
>> modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
>> change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
>> somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
>> the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
>> actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
>> sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
>> /webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
>> be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
>> general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
>> previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
>> simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
>> that list.
>
> That, and the *@ws lists were not moderated lists. If they were moderated,
> the commit would have just been moderated through. Problem solved.
>
>> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
>> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
>> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>>
>> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
>> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
>
> Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org now.
Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
list? Or has this already been done?
> Dan
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> [1]
>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservi
>> ces/site&author=bimargulies
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> > <meta>
>> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
>> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
>> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
>> > of same.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
>> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> > </meta>
>> >
>> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
>> > want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
>> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
>> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long
>> > for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects are out
>> > and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand, of course
>> > people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs.
>> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
>> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > --Glen
>> >
>> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
>> >> amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of
>> >> moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one
>> >> person was able to copy the content over (or update poms and do a
>> >> site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD
>> >> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
>> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from
>> >> two ASF Members.
>> >>
>> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> >>
>> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>> >> some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine;
>> >> its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis
>> >> has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) ..
>> >> however much you may wish for that to be the case.
>> >>
>> >> Sanjiva.
>> >> --
>> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >>
>> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
> because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
> to think about what the issue actually is.
>
> Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
> modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
> change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
> somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
> the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
> actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
> sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
> /webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
> be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
> general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
> previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
> simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
> that list.
That, and the *@ws lists were not moderated lists. If they were moderated,
the commit would have just been moderated through. Problem solved.
> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>
> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org now.
Dan
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andreas
>
> [1]
> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservi
> ces/site&author=bimargulies
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> > <meta>
> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
> > of same.
> >
> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> > </meta>
> >
> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
> > want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long
> > for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects are out
> > and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand, of course
> > people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs.
> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Glen
> >
> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
> >> amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of
> >> moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one
> >> person was able to copy the content over (or update poms and do a
> >> site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
> >>
> >>
> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD
> >> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from
> >> two ASF Members.
> >>
> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
> >>
> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
> >> some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine;
> >> its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis
> >> has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) ..
> >> however much you may wish for that to be the case.
> >>
> >> Sanjiva.
> >> --
> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >>
> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
> I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
> because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
> to think about what the issue actually is.
>
> Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
> modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
> change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
> somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
> the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
> actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
> sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
> /webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
> be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
> general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
> previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
> simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
> that list.
That, and the *@ws lists were not moderated lists. If they were moderated,
the commit would have just been moderated through. Problem solved.
> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>
> Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
Irrelevant. The list no longer exists. They go to dev@ws.apache.org now.
Dan
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andreas
>
> [1]
> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservi
> ces/site&author=bimargulies
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> > <meta>
> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
> > of same.
> >
> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> > </meta>
> >
> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
> > want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long
> > for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects are out
> > and set up as TLPs within a month or two. On the other hand, of course
> > people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs.
> > :) So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Glen
> >
> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
> >> amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of
> >> moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one
> >> person was able to copy the content over (or update poms and do a
> >> site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
> >>
> >>
> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD
> >> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from
> >> two ASF Members.
> >>
> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
> >>
> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
> >> some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine;
> >> its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis
> >> has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) ..
> >> however much you may wish for that to be the case.
> >>
> >> Sanjiva.
> >> --
> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >>
> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Benson when do you plan to cut over to the Confluence system? I'd rather
write it up for that directly.
Sanjiva.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:59 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> No response necessary, could we just bare it in mind when updating the
> site? As Sanjiva has said he's working on some updates lets wait and
> see what they look like. I'd like to see a paragraph right at the top
> of the front page summarizing the history and ground breaking
> significance of the WS project with links to where the projects have
> gone.
>
> ...ant
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ant(hony),
> >
> > I can't think of much to write here in response that I didn't already
> > write in my lengthy prior email. If you have content you'd like to
> > see, add it (if you are still a WS committer) or tee up a patch in a
> > JIRA.
> >
> > --benson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project
> >> wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i
> >> don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay
> >> homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history
> >> page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing
> >> WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved
> >> out or been retired.
> >>
> >> ...ant
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> wrote:
> >>> <meta>
> >>> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are
> certainly
> >>> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are
> "The
> >>> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
> >>>
> >>> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much
> coffee
> >>> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> >>> </meta>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
> want
> >>> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust
> we've
> >>> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
> >>> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to
> move
> >>> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs
> within
> >>> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and
> website
> >>> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to
> get
> >>> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs
> doing
> >>> rather than who's asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --Glen
> >>>
> >>> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
> amount of
> >>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving
> to a TLP.
> >>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was
> able to copy
> >>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever
> you guys do
> >>>> for web content).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a
> WORD about
> >>>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
> reasonable??! That
> >>>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> >>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
> some
> >>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
> ours and
> >>>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project!
> >>>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you
> may wish
> >>>> for that to be the case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sanjiva.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >>>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >>>> http://www.opensource.lk/
> >>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> >>>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> >>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >>>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> >>>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >>>>
> >>>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by ant elder <an...@apache.org>.
No response necessary, could we just bare it in mind when updating the
site? As Sanjiva has said he's working on some updates lets wait and
see what they look like. I'd like to see a paragraph right at the top
of the front page summarizing the history and ground breaking
significance of the WS project with links to where the projects have
gone.
...ant
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ant(hony),
>
> I can't think of much to write here in response that I didn't already
> write in my lengthy prior email. If you have content you'd like to
> see, add it (if you are still a WS committer) or tee up a patch in a
> JIRA.
>
> --benson
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project
>> wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i
>> don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay
>> homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history
>> page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing
>> WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved
>> out or been retired.
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>>> <meta>
>>> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
>>> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
>>> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
>>>
>>> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
>>> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>>> </meta>
>>>
>>> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
>>> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
>>> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
>>> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
>>> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
>>> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
>>> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
>>> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
>>> rather than who's asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --Glen
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>>>> for web content).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
>>>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>>>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>>
>>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>>
>>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>>>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>>>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>>>> for that to be the case.
>>>>
>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>> --
>>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Ant(hony),
I can't think of much to write here in response that I didn't already
write in my lengthy prior email. If you have content you'd like to
see, add it (if you are still a WS committer) or tee up a patch in a
JIRA.
--benson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project
> wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i
> don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay
> homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history
> page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing
> WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved
> out or been retired.
>
> ...ant
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>> <meta>
>> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
>> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
>> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
>>
>> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
>> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> </meta>
>>
>> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
>> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
>> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
>> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
>> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
>> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
>> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
>> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
>> rather than who's asking.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
>> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>>> for web content).
>>>
>>>
>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
>>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>>
>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>>
>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>>> for that to be the case.
>>>
>>> Sanjiva.
>>> --
>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>>
>>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project
wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i
don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay
homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history
page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing
WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved
out or been retired.
...ant
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> <meta>
> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
>
> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> </meta>
>
> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
> rather than who's asking.
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>> for web content).
>>
>>
>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>> for that to be the case.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
to think about what the issue actually is.
Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
/webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
that list.
I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
(that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
Thanks,
Andreas
[1] http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservices/site&author=bimargulies
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> <meta>
> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
>
> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> </meta>
>
> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
> rather than who's asking.
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>> for web content).
>>
>>
>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>> for that to be the case.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
to think about what the issue actually is.
Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
/webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
general@ws.apache.org (at least that is where notifications of
previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
that list.
I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
(that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
Benson, can you check your subscription to general@ws.apache.org and
test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
Thanks,
Andreas
[1] http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservices/site&author=bimargulies
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> <meta>
> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
>
> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> </meta>
>
> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
> rather than who's asking.
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>> for web content).
>>
>>
>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>>
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>>
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>> for that to be the case.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
<meta>
Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
</meta>
I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
rather than who's asking.
Thanks,
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
> for web content).
>
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
<meta>
Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly
some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee
today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
</meta>
I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move
itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get
some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
rather than who's asking.
Thanks,
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
> for web content).
>
>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com>.
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
>> of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
>> copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
>> do
>> for web content).
>>
> I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after you/Benson
> worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
> Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
> and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
> project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you
> may wish for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
+1
I strongly believe we need to keep links to Axis2 projects whether it is
a TLP or not. In addition we may also adds link to CXF.
Deepal
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD about
> Axis after you/Benson worked it over.
+1. That is clearly something that should be resolved, and we should have
both pointers to the "archived" projects and to Synapse and Axis2 for ease of
navigation and historical accuracy.
--Glen
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:33, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. I'm the only person who has touched the ws site. If you want to be
> annoyed, be annoyed at me.
BTW, I was wondering why that didn't generate any SVN commit
notifications. At least I didn't see any kind of notification that
would have allowed me to review your changes. I think that is
something that should be fixed.
> 2. It never occurred to me, when I started, that Axis would, at this late
> date, have a 'web site' consisting of a raw HTML link to the old content on
> the WS site. I didn't set out to disturb anyone or anything. It was only
> after I had put considerable effort into initial cleanup that I discovered,
> to my distress, that Axis had no site. And, and that time, I sent a query to
> the axis list, and received no replies at all.
> 3. I appear to be the only person with any time or energy available for the
> web site on the WS project, such as that project is. I cannot accept
> responsibility as the historical curator of the old Axis content.
> Personally, I don't think that history is very important or interesting;
> what is important is making the current resources available to the current
> interested parties. I appreciate that some may find this an extreme
> position. However, the Apache Way, as I understand it, is that the direction
> is set by those available to do the work.
> 4. In my opinion, the WS PMC is only viable if there are a group of people
> who are, in fact, prepared to collaborate on common goals. If the actual
> state of affairs is that there is one XmlSchema developer and some
> sympathizers, and ditto for Neethi and the others, then it should, again in
> my opinion, finish fisioning. Fission would be fine with me. I'd set up an
> adequate XmlSchema web presence, period.
I think we should indeed seriously consider promoting projects such as
XmlSchema, Axiom and Woden to TLPs (and any subproject that is viable
on its own).
> 5. I have no objection to having some bit of info on a WS project front page
> that cites history and links to the successor projects, and I would ask any
> interested party to contribute that content to the Confluence section which
> is going to become the source of the WS project -- if the project survives
> that long. I have no objection to someone supplying me a PATCH to the
> existing Forrest site to serve the same purpose: as a committer on the
> project I will be more than happy to apply it and publish.
>
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:33, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. I'm the only person who has touched the ws site. If you want to be
> annoyed, be annoyed at me.
BTW, I was wondering why that didn't generate any SVN commit
notifications. At least I didn't see any kind of notification that
would have allowed me to review your changes. I think that is
something that should be fixed.
> 2. It never occurred to me, when I started, that Axis would, at this late
> date, have a 'web site' consisting of a raw HTML link to the old content on
> the WS site. I didn't set out to disturb anyone or anything. It was only
> after I had put considerable effort into initial cleanup that I discovered,
> to my distress, that Axis had no site. And, and that time, I sent a query to
> the axis list, and received no replies at all.
> 3. I appear to be the only person with any time or energy available for the
> web site on the WS project, such as that project is. I cannot accept
> responsibility as the historical curator of the old Axis content.
> Personally, I don't think that history is very important or interesting;
> what is important is making the current resources available to the current
> interested parties. I appreciate that some may find this an extreme
> position. However, the Apache Way, as I understand it, is that the direction
> is set by those available to do the work.
> 4. In my opinion, the WS PMC is only viable if there are a group of people
> who are, in fact, prepared to collaborate on common goals. If the actual
> state of affairs is that there is one XmlSchema developer and some
> sympathizers, and ditto for Neethi and the others, then it should, again in
> my opinion, finish fisioning. Fission would be fine with me. I'd set up an
> adequate XmlSchema web presence, period.
I think we should indeed seriously consider promoting projects such as
XmlSchema, Axiom and Woden to TLPs (and any subproject that is viable
on its own).
> 5. I have no objection to having some bit of info on a WS project front page
> that cites history and links to the successor projects, and I would ask any
> interested party to contribute that content to the Confluence section which
> is going to become the source of the WS project -- if the project survives
> that long. I have no objection to someone supplying me a PATCH to the
> existing Forrest site to serve the same purpose: as a committer on the
> project I will be more than happy to apply it and publish.
>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
1. I'm the only person who has touched the ws site. If you want to be
annoyed, be annoyed at me.
2. It never occurred to me, when I started, that Axis would, at this late
date, have a 'web site' consisting of a raw HTML link to the old content on
the WS site. I didn't set out to disturb anyone or anything. It was only
after I had put considerable effort into initial cleanup that I discovered,
to my distress, that Axis had no site. And, and that time, I sent a query to
the axis list, and received no replies at all.
3. I appear to be the only person with any time or energy available for the
web site on the WS project, such as that project is. I cannot accept
responsibility as the historical curator of the old Axis content.
Personally, I don't think that history is very important or interesting;
what is important is making the current resources available to the current
interested parties. I appreciate that some may find this an extreme
position. However, the Apache Way, as I understand it, is that the direction
is set by those available to do the work.
4. In my opinion, the WS PMC is only viable if there are a group of people
who are, in fact, prepared to collaborate on common goals. If the actual
state of affairs is that there is one XmlSchema developer and some
sympathizers, and ditto for Neethi and the others, then it should, again in
my opinion, finish fisioning. Fission would be fine with me. I'd set up an
adequate XmlSchema web presence, period.
5. I have no objection to having some bit of info on a WS project front page
that cites history and links to the successor projects, and I would ask any
interested party to contribute that content to the Confluence section which
is going to become the source of the WS project -- if the project survives
that long. I have no objection to someone supplying me a PATCH to the
existing Forrest site to serve the same purpose: as a committer on the
project I will be more than happy to apply it and publish.
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
1. I'm the only person who has touched the ws site. If you want to be
annoyed, be annoyed at me.
2. It never occurred to me, when I started, that Axis would, at this late
date, have a 'web site' consisting of a raw HTML link to the old content on
the WS site. I didn't set out to disturb anyone or anything. It was only
after I had put considerable effort into initial cleanup that I discovered,
to my distress, that Axis had no site. And, and that time, I sent a query to
the axis list, and received no replies at all.
3. I appear to be the only person with any time or energy available for the
web site on the WS project, such as that project is. I cannot accept
responsibility as the historical curator of the old Axis content.
Personally, I don't think that history is very important or interesting;
what is important is making the current resources available to the current
interested parties. I appreciate that some may find this an extreme
position. However, the Apache Way, as I understand it, is that the direction
is set by those available to do the work.
4. In my opinion, the WS PMC is only viable if there are a group of people
who are, in fact, prepared to collaborate on common goals. If the actual
state of affairs is that there is one XmlSchema developer and some
sympathizers, and ditto for Neethi and the others, then it should, again in
my opinion, finish fisioning. Fission would be fine with me. I'd set up an
adequate XmlSchema web presence, period.
5. I have no objection to having some bit of info on a WS project front page
that cites history and links to the successor projects, and I would ask any
interested party to contribute that content to the Confluence section which
is going to become the source of the WS project -- if the project survives
that long. I have no objection to someone supplying me a PATCH to the
existing Forrest site to serve the same purpose: as a committer on the
project I will be more than happy to apply it and publish.
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Doug Davis <du...@us.ibm.com>.
As far as I can tell yes. I can still do svn cmds with my svn tree.
Long live axis1 :-)
** Doug waves back! **
thanks
-Doug
______________________________________________________
STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
10/25/2010 11:00 AM
To
dev@ws.apache.org
cc
Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, general@axis.apache.org
Subject
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
*waves to Doug!*
+1 - a history section is absolutely the right thing. IIRC the SVN
pointers
do redirect... right?
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:59 AM, Doug Davis wrote:
>
> Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it
seems to
> me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't changed
in a
> while but people do use it and not even having a link to the src would
hurt
> people's ability to debug stuff.
>
> thanks
> -Doug
> ______________________________________________________
> STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
> (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
> The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
>
>
> *Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>*
>
> 10/25/2010 10:47 AM
> Please respond to
> dev@ws.apache.org
>
>
>
> To
> Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
> cc
> dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
> Subject
> Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <_dkulp@apache.org_
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a
TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you
guys do
> for web content).
>
> I noticed that _ws.apache.org_ <http://ws.apache.org/>does not say a
WORD
> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
reasonable??!
> That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may
wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> _http://www.opensource.lk/_
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; _http://wso2.com/_
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; _http://www.thinkcube.com/_
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; _http://www.apache.org/_
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; _http://www.sahanafoundation.org/_
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
>
> Blog: _http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/_
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Doug Davis <du...@us.ibm.com>.
As far as I can tell yes. I can still do svn cmds with my svn tree.
Long live axis1 :-)
** Doug waves back! **
thanks
-Doug
______________________________________________________
STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
10/25/2010 11:00 AM
To
dev@ws.apache.org
cc
Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, general@axis.apache.org
Subject
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
*waves to Doug!*
+1 - a history section is absolutely the right thing. IIRC the SVN
pointers
do redirect... right?
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:59 AM, Doug Davis wrote:
>
> Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it
seems to
> me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't changed
in a
> while but people do use it and not even having a link to the src would
hurt
> people's ability to debug stuff.
>
> thanks
> -Doug
> ______________________________________________________
> STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
> (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
> The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
>
>
> *Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>*
>
> 10/25/2010 10:47 AM
> Please respond to
> dev@ws.apache.org
>
>
>
> To
> Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
> cc
> dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
> Subject
> Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <_dkulp@apache.org_
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate
amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a
TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you
guys do
> for web content).
>
> I noticed that _ws.apache.org_ <http://ws.apache.org/>does not say a
WORD
> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
reasonable??!
> That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may
wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> _http://www.opensource.lk/_
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; _http://wso2.com/_
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; _http://www.thinkcube.com/_
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; _http://www.apache.org/_
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; _http://www.sahanafoundation.org/_
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
>
> Blog: _http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/_
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
*waves to Doug!*
+1 - a history section is absolutely the right thing. IIRC the SVN pointers
do redirect... right?
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:59 AM, Doug Davis wrote:
>
> Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it seems to
> me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't changed in a
> while but people do use it and not even having a link to the src would hurt
> people's ability to debug stuff.
>
> thanks
> -Doug
> ______________________________________________________
> STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
> (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
> The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
>
>
> *Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>*
>
> 10/25/2010 10:47 AM
> Please respond to
> dev@ws.apache.org
>
>
>
> To
> Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
> cc
> dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
> Subject
> Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <_dkulp@apache.org_
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
> for web content).
>
> I noticed that _ws.apache.org_ <http://ws.apache.org/>does not say a WORD
> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??!
> That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> _http://www.opensource.lk/_
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; _http://wso2.com/_
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; _http://www.thinkcube.com/_
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; _http://www.apache.org/_
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; _http://www.sahanafoundation.org/_
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
>
> Blog: _http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/_
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>.
*waves to Doug!*
+1 - a history section is absolutely the right thing. IIRC the SVN pointers
do redirect... right?
--Glen
On 10/25/2010 10:59 AM, Doug Davis wrote:
>
> Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it seems to
> me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't changed in a
> while but people do use it and not even having a link to the src would hurt
> people's ability to debug stuff.
>
> thanks
> -Doug
> ______________________________________________________
> STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
> (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
> The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
>
>
> *Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>*
>
> 10/25/2010 10:47 AM
> Please respond to
> dev@ws.apache.org
>
>
>
> To
> Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
> cc
> dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
> Subject
> Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <_dkulp@apache.org_
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
> for web content).
>
> I noticed that _ws.apache.org_ <http://ws.apache.org/>does not say a WORD
> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??!
> That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>
> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>
> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
> for that to be the case.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> _http://www.opensource.lk/_
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; _http://wso2.com/_
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; _http://www.thinkcube.com/_
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; _http://www.apache.org/_
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; _http://www.sahanafoundation.org/_
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
>
> Blog: _http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/_
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Doug Davis <du...@us.ibm.com>.
Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it seems
to me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't
changed in a while but people do use it and not even having a link to the
src would hurt people's ability to debug stuff.
thanks
-Doug
______________________________________________________
STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
10/25/2010 10:47 AM
Please respond to
dev@ws.apache.org
To
Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
cc
dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
Subject
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
of
time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
copy
the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
do
for web content).
I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO
not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in
this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however
much you may wish for that to be the case.
Sanjiva.
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Doug Davis <du...@us.ibm.com>.
Not really wanting to jump into the middle of this :-) but.... it seems
to me that not mentioning Axis *1* would be bad too. Sure it hasn't
changed in a while but people do use it and not even having a link to the
src would hurt people's ability to debug stuff.
thanks
-Doug
______________________________________________________
STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog.
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
10/25/2010 10:47 AM
Please respond to
dev@ws.apache.org
To
Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
cc
dev@ws.apache.org, general@axis.apache.org
Subject
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
of
time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
copy
the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
do
for web content).
I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after
you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO
not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its
ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in
this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however
much you may wish for that to be the case.
Sanjiva.
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
> of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
> copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
> do
> for web content).
>
I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after you/Benson
worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you
may wish for that to be the case.
Sanjiva.
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount
> of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to
> copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
> do
> for web content).
>
I noticed that ws.apache.org does not say a WORD about Axis after you/Benson
worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That is SOOO not the
Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours
and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this
project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you
may wish for that to be the case.
Sanjiva.
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Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Correction. 'has instructions for how to make the latest release work
with Java 1.6.'
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andreas,
>
> Obviously, I didn't do such a great job with this.
>
> I used the forrest trunk so that it would work on my mac, but the
> forrest web site has instructions to use their last release.
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Then you should let people know that you are expecting such a patch. I
>> thought that this was all about Axis, and I only discovered right now
>> that the link to Axiom (which is still a WS project!) is no longer
>> there. Just let me know what is the right version of Forrest to use
>> (and if there are any other stuff that I need to know to generate the
>> site), and I'll fix it.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 22:18, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> I thought someone was going to make me a patch for the link wording
>>> that appealed to them.
>>>
>>> --benson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andreas Veithen
>>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I just noticed that there is no more link from the WS homepage to
>>>> Axiom. There is no excuse for this one :-(
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:17, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>>>>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>>>>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>>>>> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>>>>> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>>>>> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>>>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>>>>> for web content).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>>>>> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>>>>>> > graduated
>>>>>> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> > dkulp@apache.org
>>>>>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Andreas,
Obviously, I didn't do such a great job with this.
I used the forrest trunk so that it would work on my mac, but the
forrest web site has instructions to use their last release.
--benson
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Andreas Veithen
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then you should let people know that you are expecting such a patch. I
> thought that this was all about Axis, and I only discovered right now
> that the link to Axiom (which is still a WS project!) is no longer
> there. Just let me know what is the right version of Forrest to use
> (and if there are any other stuff that I need to know to generate the
> site), and I'll fix it.
>
> Andreas
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 22:18, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andreas,
>>
>> I thought someone was going to make me a patch for the link wording
>> that appealed to them.
>>
>> --benson
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andreas Veithen
>> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I just noticed that there is no more link from the WS homepage to
>>> Axiom. There is no excuse for this one :-(
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:17, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>>>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>>>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>>>> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>>>> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>>>> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>>>>
>>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>>>> for web content).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>>>> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>>>>> > graduated
>>>>> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Daniel Kulp
>>>>> > dkulp@apache.org
>>>>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Then you should let people know that you are expecting such a patch. I
thought that this was all about Axis, and I only discovered right now
that the link to Axiom (which is still a WS project!) is no longer
there. Just let me know what is the right version of Forrest to use
(and if there are any other stuff that I need to know to generate the
site), and I'll fix it.
Andreas
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 22:18, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andreas,
>
> I thought someone was going to make me a patch for the link wording
> that appealed to them.
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andreas Veithen
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just noticed that there is no more link from the WS homepage to
>> Axiom. There is no excuse for this one :-(
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:17, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>>> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>>> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>>> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>>>
>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>>> for web content).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>>> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>>>> > graduated
>>>> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Daniel Kulp
>>>> > dkulp@apache.org
>>>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Andreas,
I thought someone was going to make me a patch for the link wording
that appealed to them.
--benson
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andreas Veithen
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just noticed that there is no more link from the WS homepage to
> Axiom. There is no excuse for this one :-(
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:17, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>>> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>>> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>>
>>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>>> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>>
>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
>> for web content).
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sanjiva.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>>> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>>> > graduated
>>> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Daniel Kulp
>>> > dkulp@apache.org
>>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
I just noticed that there is no more link from the WS homepage to
Axiom. There is no excuse for this one :-(
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:17, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
>> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
>> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>>
>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
>> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>
> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
> for web content).
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
>> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>> > graduated
>> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daniel Kulp
>> > dkulp@apache.org
>> > http://dankulp.com/blog
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>
> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
for web content).
Dan
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
> > graduated
> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org
> > http://dankulp.com/blog
--
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dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
Projects such as Axiom will keep their Maven sites (at least for the
near future), and you need to take this into account, in particular if
you are going to use Confluence. Therefore, I don't see why keeping
the Axis stuff for another couple of weeks makes it harder to maintain
the site (it's just a directory in addition to the other projects with
Maven sites).
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:05, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to revamp the site. Constantly ducking the old Axis stuff makes
> this hard. If you do a simple 'cp' command to your new space, I'd be
> happy to keep around a link to it.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
>> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
>> history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
>> defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
>> for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
>>> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>>> graduated
>>> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org
>>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>>
>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Hamza Ghandorh <ha...@gmail.com>.
STOP
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Benson, to be honest, I find your attitude and even Dan's quite
disappointing. Axiom and Neethi were developed by and for Axis2. Even
XMLSchema had a lot of work done by Axis people. Same for Woden, which was
primarily used by Axis2 for the longest time (I have no idea whether CXF
uses it).
Yes you and others have done a hell of a lot of work since they were first
developed and worked on heavily and maybe do more work on them now (esp.
Neethi; I doubt Axiom) but your attitude is really not consistent with the
community spirit that Apache maintains.
You can revamp the site by ignoring the directory.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I need to revamp the site. Constantly ducking the old Axis stuff makes
> this hard. If you do a simple 'cp' command to your new space, I'd be
> happy to keep around a link to it.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> > here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
> losing
> > history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
> > defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
> > A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
> Axis
> > for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
> other
> >> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
> >> graduated
> >> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kulp
> >> dkulp@apache.org
> >> http://dankulp.com/blog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> > Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> > http://www.opensource.lk/
> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> > Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> > Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >
> > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
> >
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
I need to revamp the site. Constantly ducking the old Axis stuff makes
this hard. If you do a simple 'cp' command to your new space, I'd be
happy to keep around a link to it.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
> history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
> defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
> for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
>> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>> graduated
>> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Andreas Veithen <an...@gmail.com>.
That would only work if one assumes that the HTML generated by the
Maven site only contains relative links. I don't think that's the
case. What we really need to do is to clean up the Maven site and get
Axis2 1.6 out.
Andreas
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:03, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
> history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
> defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>
> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
> for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
>> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
>> graduated
>> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2010 10:03:49 am Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
> here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project -
> losing history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things
> that defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
>
> A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by
> Axis for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate amount of
time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys do
for web content).
Dan
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and
> > other axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
> > graduated
> > 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org
> > http://dankulp.com/blog
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
> graduated
> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
--
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http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
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Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Dan, +1 for moving the stuff but really, we need to retain some history
here. I will write a history section and put it into the WS project - losing
history of Apache SOAP, Apache Axis and the various other things that
defined the WS project for nearly 10 years is not acceptable.
A bit of patience on moving out please - the WS project was anchored by Axis
for a hell of a long time. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Would someone from the Axis TLP please move the axis2 directory and other
> axis things from /www/ws.apache.org over to your own space. Axis
> graduated
> 10 to TLP 10 months ago. This stuff should be long gone.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
--
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/