infrastructure issues

[Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com>]

does women@ need/want a:

- website
- blog
- wiki/ forum software
- SVN
- issue tracking 

we could probably get those bits started now. and start get someing
paperwork going for the non-members .. i'm assuming people would need
a CLA in order to get write access to various bits.

don't take this as being pushy.. just that if you think you need it
would could bug the infrastructure people now and it they will be
ready for when we need to do them.

-- 
Ian@Holsman.net -- 03-9877-0909
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. -
Mario Andretti

Re: infrastructure issues

[David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>]

Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> Ian Holsman wrote:
> >does women@ need/want a:
> >
> >- website
> 
> We don't need infra to do a web site for women@, but we need karma to do 
> it ourselves (i.e., karma to /www/women on people.apache.org). I would 
> like to have karma.

Why does this group need a special website, svn, ...?

Is this effort going to duplicate the documentation
at www.apache.org/ and www.apache.org/dev/ sites?

I would think that a page or two at /dev/ would be more
than sufficient. The rest of the topics, about making ASF
a nice place to contribute, would be documented along
with the normal participation notes at the /dev/ site.

-David

Re: infrastructure issues

["Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>]

Ian Holsman wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>>Ian Holsman wrote:

Ian> ... .. i'm assuming people would need
Ian> a CLA in order to get write access to various bits.

Jean>I assume nobody would need a CLA to subscribe to the list.

Ian> but to commit to SVN, or update the website they might.
> 
Ian> the reason we would need a 'special' SVN area, as non-comitters would
Ian> have to access it.

ah, I see what you're getting at.

On the apache development lists, non-committers can post changes to the 
dev mail list or upload to a Jira issue. If that change should be 
committed, then a committer takes it and commits it.

I recommend the same model here. Contributors post their contributions 
and only committers do the commit.

  -jean

Re: infrastructure issues

[Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com>]

On 8/15/05, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
> Ian Holsman wrote:
> > does women@ need/want a:
> >
> > - website
> 
> We don't need infra to do a web site for women@, but we need karma to do
> it ourselves (i.e., karma to /www/women on people.apache.org). I would
> like to have karma.
> 

yep.. either women.apache.org or www.apache.org/women

just a place to point people to and for people to find when they do a
search for
open source women (or whatever)


> > - blog
> 
> I didn't realize apache hosted blogs! (Learn something new every day!)

we don't.. but we should.. but we might be able to get a 'semi' hosted
blog going.
we could always setup a domain for $8/year called apachebloggers or
something like that.
we should be able to find a spot on a machine somewhere to host it if
we asked enough people.

> 
> > - wiki/ forum software
> 
> Berin emailed a request to infra on 8/10 for a wiki. women@ isn't
> archived yet, so I included a copy of that request down below.
> 
> > - SVN
> This would be good to have; at the very least for the web site source.
> 
> > - issue tracking
> This would be good to have. For example, it would allow those who don't
> have commit access to upload new content to be integrated into the web
> site by somebody who does have commit access.
> 
> > we could probably get those bits started now. and start get someing
> > paperwork going for the non-members .. i'm assuming people would need
> > a CLA in order to get write access to various bits.
> 
> I assume nobody would need a CLA to subscribe to the list.
> 

but to commit to SVN, or update the website they might.

the reason we would need a 'special' SVN area, as non-comitters would
have to access it.


> -jean
> 
> 
> -------- Berin's request for a wiki --------
> Subject: wiki] request for new apache-women subwiki
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:17:54 -0400
> From: Berin Loritsch <bl...@d-haven.org>
> Reply-To: women@apache.org
> To: infrastructure@apache.org
> CC: women@apache.org
> 
> Please set up a new project wiki for apache-women.
> 
> requesting project: women@apache.org
> wiki name: apache-women
> human readable wiki name: Apache Women Wiki
> change notification mailing list: women@apache.org
> 
> No need to migrate the UseMod pages.
> 
> Please make the Wiki require login to edit and view.  This is to support
> the discussions on the non-public women@apache.org mailing list.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> - Berin Loritsch
> - Danese Cooper
> 


-- 
Ian@Holsman.net -- 03-9877-0909
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. -
Mario Andretti

Re: infrastructure issues

["Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>]

Ian Holsman wrote:
> does women@ need/want a:
> 
> - website

We don't need infra to do a web site for women@, but we need karma to do 
it ourselves (i.e., karma to /www/women on people.apache.org). I would 
like to have karma.

> - blog

I didn't realize apache hosted blogs! (Learn something new every day!)

> - wiki/ forum software

Berin emailed a request to infra on 8/10 for a wiki. women@ isn't 
archived yet, so I included a copy of that request down below.

> - SVN
This would be good to have; at the very least for the web site source.

> - issue tracking 
This would be good to have. For example, it would allow those who don't 
have commit access to upload new content to be integrated into the web 
site by somebody who does have commit access.

> we could probably get those bits started now. and start get someing
> paperwork going for the non-members .. i'm assuming people would need
> a CLA in order to get write access to various bits.

I assume nobody would need a CLA to subscribe to the list.

> don't take this as being pushy.. just that if you think you need it
> would could bug the infrastructure people now and it they will be
> ready for when we need to do them.

The women@ mail list is the key right now, but this is all excellent 
forward thinking -- thanks!

-jean


-------- Berin's request for a wiki --------
Subject: wiki] request for new apache-women subwiki
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:17:54 -0400
From: Berin Loritsch <bl...@d-haven.org>
Reply-To: women@apache.org
To: infrastructure@apache.org
CC: women@apache.org

Please set up a new project wiki for apache-women.

requesting project: women@apache.org
wiki name: apache-women
human readable wiki name: Apache Women Wiki
change notification mailing list: women@apache.org

No need to migrate the UseMod pages.

Please make the Wiki require login to edit and view.  This is to support
the discussions on the non-public women@apache.org mailing list.

thanks,

- Berin Loritsch
- Danese Cooper