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Apache Click

Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:

http://incubator.apache.org/click/

What are the main differences and advantages?

regards
giovanni

Re: Apache Click

Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
I looked at click. Its not just HTML and just java like wicket. Lack of
documentation and books and less widgets.



On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Giovanni <pi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>
> What are the main differences and advantages?
>
> regards
> giovanni
>
>
>
>

Re: Apache Click

Posted by Adrian Wiesmann <aw...@somap.org>.
> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
> solution.

There is not much magic in using Cayenne with Wicket. It depends on your 
needs, but basically this is all you need:

public class DataObjectModel implements IModel<CayenneDataObject>

Cheers,
Adrian



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Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
go for it. anyone can organize it. we would be happy to accept a patch
against wicket-examples.

-igor

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:19 AM, nino martinez wael
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So why not have a competition? We could host it with the wicketstuff svn and
> take the best one and accept it as default?
>
> 2010/2/2 Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
>
>> because none of the core committers are designers...
>>
>> -igor
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
>> <JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Thanks you guys(Igor, Alex, Riyad) for the suggestions. I really
>> appreciated.
>> >
>> > I mean the design, which is used by the wicket demo page, could be
>> considered as the default design of the wicket, right? So, why not provide a
>> better one here.
>> >
>> > Regards!
>> > Jing
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynberg@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Montag, 1. Februar 2010 19:15
>> > To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: better look & modern css for wicket
>> >
>> > frameworks like Click and Vaadin have to provide default L&F because
>> > it is harder to customize that since they do not offer as much control
>> > over the markup as Wicket. in Wicket the designer has almost complete
>> > control, even including the tags themselves. we can provide a fancy
>> > L&F but then it will only work with the specific tag hierarchies that
>> > we create it for which will limit the power of Wicket if you wanted to
>> > use the L&F in your app.
>> >
>> > -igor
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
>> > <JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi guys,
>> >>
>> >> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
>> >> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
>> >> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>> >>
>> >> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Jing
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de]
>> >> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
>> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead
>> >> pure html.
>> >> Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
>> >> components.
>> >> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
>> >> solution.
>> >>
>> >> Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).
>> >>
>> >>  > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.
>> >>
>> >> This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the
>> >> design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
>> >> No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Peter.
>> >>
>> >>> Wow!
>> >>>
>> >>> Vaadin looks really cool!
>> >>> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
>> >> wicket
>> >>> with a good look css can beat them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards!
>> >>> Jing
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
>> >>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
>> >>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi!
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
>> >>> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>> >>>
>> >>> **
>> >>> Martin
>> >>>
>> >>> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> regards
>> >>>> giovanni
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by nino martinez wael <ni...@gmail.com>.
So why not have a competition? We could host it with the wicketstuff svn and
take the best one and accept it as default?

2010/2/2 Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>

> because none of the core committers are designers...
>
> -igor
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
> <JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks you guys(Igor, Alex, Riyad) for the suggestions. I really
> appreciated.
> >
> > I mean the design, which is used by the wicket demo page, could be
> considered as the default design of the wicket, right? So, why not provide a
> better one here.
> >
> > Regards!
> > Jing
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynberg@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Montag, 1. Februar 2010 19:15
> > To: users@wicket.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: better look & modern css for wicket
> >
> > frameworks like Click and Vaadin have to provide default L&F because
> > it is harder to customize that since they do not offer as much control
> > over the markup as Wicket. in Wicket the designer has almost complete
> > control, even including the tags themselves. we can provide a fancy
> > L&F but then it will only work with the specific tag hierarchies that
> > we create it for which will limit the power of Wicket if you wanted to
> > use the L&F in your app.
> >
> > -igor
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
> > <JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
> >> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
> >> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
> >>
> >> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
> >>
> >>
> >> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Jing
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de]
> >> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Apache Click
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead
> >> pure html.
> >> Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
> >> components.
> >> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
> >> solution.
> >>
> >> Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).
> >>
> >>  > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.
> >>
> >> This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the
> >> design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
> >> No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Peter.
> >>
> >>> Wow!
> >>>
> >>> Vaadin looks really cool!
> >>> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
> >> wicket
> >>> with a good look css can beat them.
> >>>
> >>> Regards!
> >>> Jing
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
> >>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
> >>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
> >>>
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
> >>> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
> >>>
> >>> **
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
> >>>>
> >>>> What are the main differences and advantages?
> >>>>
> >>>> regards
> >>>> giovanni
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
because none of the core committers are designers...

-igor

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
<JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks you guys(Igor, Alex, Riyad) for the suggestions. I really appreciated.
>
> I mean the design, which is used by the wicket demo page, could be considered as the default design of the wicket, right? So, why not provide a better one here.
>
> Regards!
> Jing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynberg@gmail.com]
> Sent: Montag, 1. Februar 2010 19:15
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: better look & modern css for wicket
>
> frameworks like Click and Vaadin have to provide default L&F because
> it is harder to customize that since they do not offer as much control
> over the markup as Wicket. in Wicket the designer has almost complete
> control, even including the tags themselves. we can provide a fancy
> L&F but then it will only work with the specific tag hierarchies that
> we create it for which will limit the power of Wicket if you wanted to
> use the L&F in your app.
>
> -igor
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
> <JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
>> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
>> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>>
>> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>>
>>
>> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>>
>> Regards
>> Jing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de]
>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead
>> pure html.
>> Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
>> components.
>> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
>> solution.
>>
>> Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).
>>
>>  > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.
>>
>> This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the
>> design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
>> No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter.
>>
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Vaadin looks really cool!
>>> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
>> wicket
>>> with a good look css can beat them.
>>>
>>> Regards!
>>> Jing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
>>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
>>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
>>> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>>>
>>> **
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>>>>
>>>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> giovanni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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RE: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by "Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)" <JG...@besitec.com>.
Hi,

Thanks you guys(Igor, Alex, Riyad) for the suggestions. I really appreciated.

I mean the design, which is used by the wicket demo page, could be considered as the default design of the wicket, right? So, why not provide a better one here.

Regards!
Jing

-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:igor.vaynberg@gmail.com] 
Sent: Montag, 1. Februar 2010 19:15
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: better look & modern css for wicket

frameworks like Click and Vaadin have to provide default L&F because
it is harder to customize that since they do not offer as much control
over the markup as Wicket. in Wicket the designer has almost complete
control, even including the tags themselves. we can provide a fancy
L&F but then it will only work with the specific tag hierarchies that
we create it for which will limit the power of Wicket if you wanted to
use the L&F in your app.

-igor

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
<JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>
> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>
>
> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>
> Regards
> Jing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de]
> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>
> Hi,
>
> for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead
> pure html.
> Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
> components.
> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
> solution.
>
> Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).
>
>  > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.
>
> This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the
> design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
> No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...
>
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>> Wow!
>>
>> Vaadin looks really cool!
>> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
> wicket
>> with a good look css can beat them.
>>
>> Regards!
>> Jing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
>> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>>
>> **
>> Martin
>>
>> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>>>
>>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
frameworks like Click and Vaadin have to provide default L&F because
it is harder to customize that since they do not offer as much control
over the markup as Wicket. in Wicket the designer has almost complete
control, even including the tags themselves. we can provide a fancy
L&F but then it will only work with the specific tag hierarchies that
we create it for which will limit the power of Wicket if you wanted to
use the L&F in your app.

-igor

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
<JG...@besitec.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>
> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>
>
> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>
> Regards
> Jing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de]
> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>
> Hi,
>
> for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead
> pure html.
> Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
> components.
> An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent
> solution.
>
> Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).
>
>  > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.
>
> This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the
> design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
> No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...
>
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>> Wow!
>>
>> Vaadin looks really cool!
>> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
> wicket
>> with a good look css can beat them.
>>
>> Regards!
>> Jing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
>> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>>
>> **
>> Martin
>>
>> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>>>
>>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by Alex Rass <ar...@itbsllc.com>.
I suspect they don't do it b/c ... it's a job for a designer!
I think it's pretty damn good already. And there are already 3 looks for
some component (look at the CSS file).

And while it wouldn't bring more people to wicket (that's not why ppl "go
wicket", that's silly), it would make for more support costs when the guys
change components or add new ones (having to update ALL those looks and
feels).

It's just a CSS file. (thank god!)

If you think it will help you and others: Just create a project and start
dumping your super-duper-pretty CSS files inthere along with a test page
which displays the basic 10+ components wicket supports out of the box and
show off how they look. There are a BUNCH of nice CSS development sites
where you have a dropdown which switches between CSS files for same content.
Do something like that.

- Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Riyad Kalla [mailto:rkalla@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:19 AM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Shipping a few different custom themes as part of the Wicket SDK could be
interesting -- for the standard Wicket components that just back HTML4
elements it's a little less necessary I suppose, but for those custom
components, like Data Tables, making them look nice out of the box could be
a nice win. I suppose the same goes for some standard HTML widgets
(buttons?)

I wonder if there could be a Wicket 1.6 addition of a ThemeManager that all
wicket components could call into for "default" styles -- including the
custom components -- allowing artists to define well-known style names that
would get applied automatically and allow Wicket to ship themes out of the
box with it?

e.g. in Application.init() -- ThemeManager.setDefault("green-gloss.css")

As superficial as it is, we all know bling counts. If there is a huge demand
for making Wicket components look like an 1990s AOL webpage, I'll take the
lead on this... otherwise we should probably ask if anyone is a designer? :)

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
<JG...@besitec.com>wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>
> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>
>
> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>
> Regards
> Jing


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Re: better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by Riyad Kalla <rk...@gmail.com>.
Shipping a few different custom themes as part of the Wicket SDK could be
interesting -- for the standard Wicket components that just back HTML4
elements it's a little less necessary I suppose, but for those custom
components, like Data Tables, making them look nice out of the box could be
a nice win. I suppose the same goes for some standard HTML widgets
(buttons?)

I wonder if there could be a Wicket 1.6 addition of a ThemeManager that all
wicket components could call into for "default" styles -- including the
custom components -- allowing artists to define well-known style names that
would get applied automatically and allow Wicket to ship themes out of the
box with it?

e.g. in Application.init() -- ThemeManager.setDefault("green-gloss.css")

As superficial as it is, we all know bling counts. If there is a huge demand
for making Wicket components look like an 1990s AOL webpage, I'll take the
lead on this... otherwise we should probably ask if anyone is a designer? :)

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)
<JG...@besitec.com>wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
> more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
> the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.
>
> Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?
>
>
> BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it!
>
> Regards
> Jing

better look & modern css for wicket

Posted by "Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)" <JG...@besitec.com>.
Hi guys,

I just ask myself, why the wicket team does not provide a better look,
more modern css? A css which will let people say "WOW!" when they open
the wicket demo page, like Vaadin does.

Such a css can let more people pay attention to wicket. Why don't do it?


BTW, The wicket is really cool! I like it! 

Regards
Jing

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Karich [mailto:peathal@yahoo.de] 
Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:42
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Click

Hi,

for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead 
pure html.
Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less
components.
An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent 
solution.

Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).

 > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.

This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the 
design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...

Regards,
Peter.

> Wow!
>
> Vaadin looks really cool!
> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think
wicket
> with a good look css can beat them.
>
> Regards!
> Jing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>
> Hi!
>
> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>
> **
> Martin
>
> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>    
>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>>
>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>>
>> regards
>> giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
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Re: Apache Click

Posted by Peter Karich <pe...@yahoo.de>.
Hi,

for me the main disadvantage of click is that it uses velocity instead 
pure html.
Then click has probably less publicity/mailing support and less components.
An advantage could be that cayenne is supported as a default persistent 
solution.

Search for wicket vs click or sth. like (was useful for me).

 > I think wicket with a good look css can beat them.

This is the great thing about wicket: just let the designer do the 
design their html ;-) and I will code (fast!).
No need for GSP, JSF, rhtml, JSP, velocity, xslt ...

Regards,
Peter.

> Wow!
>
> Vaadin looks really cool!
> Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think wicket
> with a good look css can beat them.
>
> Regards!
> Jing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Click
>
> Hi!
>
> I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
> http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/
>
> **
> Martin
>
> 2010/1/29 Giovanni<pi...@yahoo.com>:
>    
>> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>>
>> What are the main differences and advantages?
>>
>> regards
>> giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
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RE: Apache Click

Posted by "Jing Ge (Besitec IT DEHAM)" <JG...@besitec.com>.
Wow!

Vaadin looks really cool!
Could anyone here provide a good look css for the wicket? I think wicket
with a good look css can beat them.

Regards!
Jing

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Makundi [mailto:martin.makundi@koodaripalvelut.com] 
Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 17:14
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Click

Hi!

I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/

**
Martin

2010/1/29 Giovanni <pi...@yahoo.com>:
> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>
> What are the main differences and advantages?
>
> regards
> giovanni
>
>
>
>

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Re: Apache Click

Posted by Martin Makundi <ma...@koodaripalvelut.com>.
Hi!

I guess click comes with its own layout.. like Vaadin
http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/

**
Martin

2010/1/29 Giovanni <pi...@yahoo.com>:
> Apache Click is very similar to Wicket:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/click/
>
> What are the main differences and advantages?
>
> regards
> giovanni
>
>
>
>

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