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Posted to dev@syncope.apache.org by andrea <an...@tirasa.net> on 2016/11/23 16:15:12 UTC
[DISCUSS] Apache Syncope 2.0 with Docker
Hi all,
In the last months I've worked a bit on integration between Syncope and
Docker, in particular a way to distribute Syncope as Docker image.
In the repo located at [1] you can find my current work. The wiki is at [2].
There are 1_2_X and 2_0_X branches respectively hosting Dockerfile to
build 1.2.8 and 2.0.1 images. I provided also the docker-compose.yml
files to build working examples. Obviously this files are only a
starting point for the n-th installation, that has to be tuned according
to specific requirements (properties, datasources, hostnames, etc.)
I'm still doing some refactoring and refinements on both branches and
master branch, that is outdated. And obviously I'm updating the wiki.
Time to integrate this work into Syncope project?
Or at least we can create a registry containing this sample images?
Do we have proposals to improve and consolidate this work or to improve
usability of these images?
WDYT?
Best regards,
Andrea
[1] https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/tree/2_0_X
[2]
https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/wiki/How-to-start-Syncope-Docker-application
--
Andrea Patricelli
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
PMC member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Syncope 2.0 with Docker
Posted by andrea <an...@tirasa.net>.
Hi all,
please see inline.
Il 24/11/2016 15:19, Francesco Chicchiriccò ha scritto:
> Hi Andrea,
> first of all, let me thank you for such initiative of yours: the
> container (and Docker) hype is higher than ever, and it'd be a pity
> not to have Syncope joining the party.
>
> AFAICT, I would see two distinct categories of Docker images:
>
> 1. a single image with core, console and enduser - which will require
> an external DBMS for internal storage (another existing image?)
> 2. separate images for core, console and enduser - where the first
> will require an external DBMS for internal storage (another image?)
> and a JMS queue for OpenJPA clustering (another existing image?)
>
> The idea is that the single image can be used for simple deployments,
> where the others are meant to be orchestrated into a more powerful,
> scalable architecture.
>
At the moment the best thing to do is to build the image from Dockerfile
and run a simple (sample) environment with docker-compose (actual
persistence is with PostgreSQL). Image is not so usable itself.
Documentation will be very important in this case.
Scalability feature must be developed, yet. But it would be a "killing"
feature!
We could develop some docker-compose.yml files and/or Dockerfiles
(images) that fit with teh different purposes that you explained.
> If we will create and release (alongside with other artifacts) such
> Docker files, then we might also need to discuss if (and how) to
> publish the related images.
>
> Publishing to Docker Hub seems to be the most effective way, but at
> the moment it is very unclear if there is a standard ASF approach
> about it: some images are available under the 'apache' organization
> [3] (automated builds), other under specific organizations, but still
> appearing managed by their respective PMCs [4] (for public releases
> rather than automated builds).
>
> Moreover, a recent discussion about this topic on legal is available:
> [5].
>
> My impression is that it would be safer to "just" release the Docker
> files + instructions for building and orchestrating the resulting images.
>
About this I agree, the overhead of creating an image on specific
machine instead of downloading from registry could be feasible at the
moment. Also because it is difficult to create a generic image that fits
with all purposes.
Best regards,
Andrea
> Regards.
>
> On 23/11/2016 17:15, andrea wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the last months I've worked a bit on integration between Syncope
>> and Docker, in particular a way to distribute Syncope as Docker image.
>> In the repo located at [1] you can find my current work. The wiki is
>> at [2].
>> There are 1_2_X and 2_0_X branches respectively hosting Dockerfile to
>> build 1.2.8 and 2.0.1 images. I provided also the docker-compose.yml
>> files to build working examples. Obviously this files are only a
>> starting point for the n-th installation, that has to be tuned
>> according to specific requirements (properties, datasources,
>> hostnames, etc.)
>> I'm still doing some refactoring and refinements on both branches and
>> master branch, that is outdated. And obviously I'm updating the wiki.
>>
>> Time to integrate this work into Syncope project?
>> Or at least we can create a registry containing this sample images?
>> Do we have proposals to improve and consolidate this work or to
>> improve usability of these images?
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andrea
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/tree/2_0_X
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/wiki/How-to-start-Syncope-Docker-application
> [3] https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/
> [4] https://hub.docker.com/r/apachesling/sling/
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-270
>
--
Andrea Patricelli
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
PMC member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Syncope 2.0 with Docker
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
Hi Andrea,
first of all, let me thank you for such initiative of yours: the
container (and Docker) hype is higher than ever, and it'd be a pity not
to have Syncope joining the party.
AFAICT, I would see two distinct categories of Docker images:
1. a single image with core, console and enduser - which will require an
external DBMS for internal storage (another existing image?)
2. separate images for core, console and enduser - where the first will
require an external DBMS for internal storage (another image?) and a JMS
queue for OpenJPA clustering (another existing image?)
The idea is that the single image can be used for simple deployments,
where the others are meant to be orchestrated into a more powerful,
scalable architecture.
If we will create and release (alongside with other artifacts) such
Docker files, then we might also need to discuss if (and how) to publish
the related images.
Publishing to Docker Hub seems to be the most effective way, but at the
moment it is very unclear if there is a standard ASF approach about it:
some images are available under the 'apache' organization [3] (automated
builds), other under specific organizations, but still appearing managed
by their respective PMCs [4] (for public releases rather than automated
builds).
Moreover, a recent discussion about this topic on legal is available: [5].
My impression is that it would be safer to "just" release the Docker
files + instructions for building and orchestrating the resulting images.
Regards.
On 23/11/2016 17:15, andrea wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In the last months I've worked a bit on integration between Syncope
> and Docker, in particular a way to distribute Syncope as Docker image.
> In the repo located at [1] you can find my current work. The wiki is
> at [2].
> There are 1_2_X and 2_0_X branches respectively hosting Dockerfile to
> build 1.2.8 and 2.0.1 images. I provided also the docker-compose.yml
> files to build working examples. Obviously this files are only a
> starting point for the n-th installation, that has to be tuned
> according to specific requirements (properties, datasources,
> hostnames, etc.)
> I'm still doing some refactoring and refinements on both branches and
> master branch, that is outdated. And obviously I'm updating the wiki.
>
> Time to integrate this work into Syncope project?
> Or at least we can create a registry containing this sample images?
> Do we have proposals to improve and consolidate this work or to
> improve usability of these images?
>
> WDYT?
>
> Best regards,
> Andrea
>
> [1] https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/tree/2_0_X
> [2]
> https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/wiki/How-to-start-Syncope-Docker-application
[3] https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/
[4] https://hub.docker.com/r/apachesling/sling/
[5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-270
--
Francesco Chicchiriccò
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope, Cocoon, Olingo, CXF, OpenJPA, PonyMail
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Syncope 2.0 with Docker
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Andrea,
That's great !
By the way, we discussed about Docker at Apache recently. It's now
possible to request/declare official Apache Docker images.
Regards
JB
On 11/23/2016 05:15 PM, andrea wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In the last months I've worked a bit on integration between Syncope and
> Docker, in particular a way to distribute Syncope as Docker image.
> In the repo located at [1] you can find my current work. The wiki is at
> [2].
> There are 1_2_X and 2_0_X branches respectively hosting Dockerfile to
> build 1.2.8 and 2.0.1 images. I provided also the docker-compose.yml
> files to build working examples. Obviously this files are only a
> starting point for the n-th installation, that has to be tuned according
> to specific requirements (properties, datasources, hostnames, etc.)
> I'm still doing some refactoring and refinements on both branches and
> master branch, that is outdated. And obviously I'm updating the wiki.
>
> Time to integrate this work into Syncope project?
> Or at least we can create a registry containing this sample images?
> Do we have proposals to improve and consolidate this work or to improve
> usability of these images?
>
> WDYT?
>
> Best regards,
> Andrea
>
> [1] https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/tree/2_0_X
>
> [2]
> https://github.com/andrea-patricelli/syncope-docker/wiki/How-to-start-Syncope-Docker-application
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofr
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com