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[FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Hi All,
I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it!".
Open Source is definitely changing our lifes, especially with the projects those supported by Apache, Sourceforge, Java Web Parts, etc, and many others who provide selfless help to others to use these (tools), with message posts, Articles, wikis etc. Kudos to all of them.!
There are still many who hesitate to use open source (tools), or to contribute to it. We need to get them to the Open Source community so that the Novel ideas don't get patented.
Can we have a good slogan to this motto.? What I have one is - "Don't Invent wheels if you can get it". I know, it does not depict the whole motto.. There can be among you who can have better ones...
Thanks and Regards,
Thomas Joseph
Kott Software Pvt. Ltd. | Vallamattom Estate | M.G.Road | Cochin-682015 | India
www.kottsoftware.com
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
I am amazed, once again.
On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Exactly.
>
> It is self-deprecating on both sides of the equation, and reinforces
> the fact that the developers ARE the users, and the users are the
> developers.
>
> All that and it is every bit as irreverent as LAME, Subversion, Tomcat,
> etc...
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Monkeyden <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Great marketing! This reminds me of those "...for Dummies" books. To
> > download, like buying those books, is to submit to the idea that you
> are, in
> > all likelyhood, an idiot.
> >
> >
> > On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > How about "Software by idiots for idiots...download here."
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph < thomas.joseph@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source.
> Something
> > like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you
> don't
> > have to reinvent it!".
> >
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Exactly.
It is self-deprecating on both sides of the equation, and reinforces
the fact that the developers ARE the users, and the users are the
developers.
All that and it is every bit as irreverent as LAME, Subversion, Tomcat, etc...
Larry
On 7/28/06, Monkeyden <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great marketing! This reminds me of those "...for Dummies" books. To
> download, like buying those books, is to submit to the idea that you are, in
> all likelyhood, an idiot.
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> How about "Software by idiots for idiots...download here."
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph < thomas.joseph@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something
> like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't
> have to reinvent it!".
>
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Monkeyden <mo...@gmail.com>.
Great marketing! This reminds me of those "...for Dummies" books. To
download, like buying those books, is to submit to the idea that you are, in
all likelyhood, an idiot.
On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> How about "Software by idiots for idiots...download here."
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something
> like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't
> have to reinvent it!".
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Simon Chappell <si...@gmail.com>.
I still want to know why anyone would want open sores?
Kinda adds new meaning to descriptions of the GPL as viral. :-)
Simon
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Monkeyden <mo...@gmail.com>.
Larry,
I didn't believe you'd be able to to improve on the first incarnation of it,
but there, you've gone and done it.
On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Would you prefer half-wit?
>
> Or maybe "retard", one definition of that is "A person considered to
> be foolish or socially inept." - I actually like that one better....
>
> "Software by retards for retards...download here."
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Martin Kindler <ki...@arcor.de> wrote:
> > from wikipedia:
> >
> > "idiot is a word derived from the Greek ιδιωτης, idiōtēs ("layman,"
> "person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual") ...
> It was originally used in ancient Greek city-states to refer to people who
> were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of
> the community"
> >
> > Do you want to put this label to OSS?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Greg Reddin [mailto:greddin@apache.org]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Juli 2006 17:45
> > > An: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Betreff: Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
> > >
> > > That's awesome :-)
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
I think that this might be a tad bit insensitive to your fellow citizens,
making the "idiot" monikor less than a joke?
On 7/28/06, Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Would you prefer half-wit?
>
> Or maybe "retard", one definition of that is "A person considered to
> be foolish or socially inept." - I actually like that one better....
>
> "Software by retards for retards...download here."
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Martin Kindler <ki...@arcor.de> wrote:
> > from wikipedia:
> >
> > "idiot is a word derived from the Greek ιδιωτης, idiōtēs ("layman,"
> "person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual") ...
> It was originally used in ancient Greek city-states to refer to people who
> were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of
> the community"
> >
> > Do you want to put this label to OSS?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Greg Reddin [mailto:greddin@apache.org]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Juli 2006 17:45
> > > An: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Betreff: Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
> > >
> > > That's awesome :-)
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
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> >
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~Dakota Jack~
Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Would you prefer half-wit?
Or maybe "retard", one definition of that is "A person considered to
be foolish or socially inept." - I actually like that one better....
"Software by retards for retards...download here."
Larry
On 7/28/06, Martin Kindler <ki...@arcor.de> wrote:
> from wikipedia:
>
> "idiot is a word derived from the Greek ιδιωτης, idiōtēs ("layman," "person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual") ... It was originally used in ancient Greek city-states to refer to people who were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of the community"
>
> Do you want to put this label to OSS?
>
> Martin
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Greg Reddin [mailto:greddin@apache.org]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Juli 2006 17:45
> > An: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Betreff: Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> >
> > > Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
> >
> > That's awesome :-)
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
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> >
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AW: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Martin Kindler <ki...@arcor.de>.
from wikipedia:
"idiot is a word derived from the Greek ιδιωτης, idiōtēs ("layman," "person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual") ... It was originally used in ancient Greek city-states to refer to people who were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of the community"
Do you want to put this label to OSS?
Martin
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Greg Reddin [mailto:greddin@apache.org]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Juli 2006 17:45
> An: Struts Users Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
>
> > Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
>
> That's awesome :-)
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
That's awesome :-)
Greg
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Hehe... I hope your using the Johnny Damon definition of "idiots" :)
Frank
Larry Meadors wrote:
> How about "Software by idiots for idiots...download here."
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source.
>> Something like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the
>> wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it!".
>
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
How about "Software by idiots for idiots...download here."
Larry
On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it!".
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Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
How about "Every kid reinvents the wheel; join the team that codes the axle
-- the real innovation that made the wheel work for turning." ?
On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something
> like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't
> have to reinvent it!".
>
> Open Source is definitely changing our lifes, especially with the projects
> those supported by Apache, Sourceforge, Java Web Parts, etc, and many others
> who provide selfless help to others to use these (tools), with message
> posts, Articles, wikis etc. Kudos to all of them.!
>
> There are still many who hesitate to use open source (tools), or to
> contribute to it. We need to get them to the Open Source community so that
> the Novel ideas don't get patented.
>
> Can we have a good slogan to this motto.? What I have one is - "Don't
> Invent wheels if you can get it". I know, it does not depict the whole
> motto.. There can be among you who can have better ones...
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Thomas Joseph
>
> Kott Software Pvt. Ltd. | Vallamattom Estate | M.G.Road | Cochin-682015 |
> India
> www.kottsoftware.com
>
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~Dakota Jack~
Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com>.
Well, my current work (as an industry fresher) doesn not hinder my personal commitment to the Open Source World.
I guess this is true for all people. Well, for using Open Source resources, there will be utterly no hinderences for any one? ;-)
Thanks and Regards,
Thomas Joseph
Kott Software Pvt. Ltd. | Vallamattom Estate | M.G.Road | Cochin-682015 | India
www.kottsoftware.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Monkeyden
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
I don't mind if people/companies aren't onboard. I also have a policy not
to work with them.
BTW, a "strategic offshore outsourcing" company? That's the devil's work.
:)
On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something
> like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't
> have to reinvent it!".
>
> Open Source is definitely changing our lifes, especially with the projects
> those supported by Apache, Sourceforge, Java Web Parts, etc, and many others
> who provide selfless help to others to use these (tools), with message
> posts, Articles, wikis etc. Kudos to all of them.!
>
> There are still many who hesitate to use open source (tools), or to
> contribute to it. We need to get them to the Open Source community so that
> the Novel ideas don't get patented.
>
> Can we have a good slogan to this motto.? What I have one is - "Don't
> Invent wheels if you can get it". I know, it does not depict the whole
> motto.. There can be among you who can have better ones...
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Thomas Joseph
Re: [FRIDAY][OT] Slogan for Open Source
Posted by Monkeyden <mo...@gmail.com>.
I don't mind if people/companies aren't onboard. I also have a policy not
to work with them.
BTW, a "strategic offshore outsourcing" company? That's the devil's work.
:)
On 7/28/06, Thomas Joseph <th...@kottsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have often felt that, we need a slogan for the Open Source. Something
> like how Frank has for Java Web Parts - "Supplying the wheel, so you don't
> have to reinvent it!".
>
> Open Source is definitely changing our lifes, especially with the projects
> those supported by Apache, Sourceforge, Java Web Parts, etc, and many others
> who provide selfless help to others to use these (tools), with message
> posts, Articles, wikis etc. Kudos to all of them.!
>
> There are still many who hesitate to use open source (tools), or to
> contribute to it. We need to get them to the Open Source community so that
> the Novel ideas don't get patented.
>
> Can we have a good slogan to this motto.? What I have one is - "Don't
> Invent wheels if you can get it". I know, it does not depict the whole
> motto.. There can be among you who can have better ones...
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Thomas Joseph
>
> Kott Software Pvt. Ltd. | Vallamattom Estate | M.G.Road | Cochin-682015 |
> India
> www.kottsoftware.com
>
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