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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net> on 2002/07/28 02:24:08 UTC
Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 also
Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?
We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
advice.
And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
mailinglist.
Mvgr,
Martin
On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
> Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general. And
> why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link ending in
> idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I do not
> need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> > > It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
> > > isn't.
> >
> > No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics, project-by-project
> > technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> >
> > d.
>
>
>
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat
4.0.1 installed?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
George the correct "newsgroup" (although they are telling you the
truth, GMANE takes several mail lists
and makes newsgroups out of them) is
http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
Such misunderstandings as this will become more prevelant in the future
as more people use gmane to post to
the lists.
-Andy
George Hester wrote:
>My opinion in this whole exchange is this. The people who have respnded haven't
>the slightest idea what I am talikng about and since they KNOW I am posting in
>the wrong newsgroup they latch onto that. I'll take this question elsewhere it
>is not worth the enegy bickering about what newsgroup is the correct newsgroup
>to post in as my inquiry goes unanswered. Thank you Hans for pointing out to me
>that Newsgroups are not a place to make friends especially if I made a mistake.
>
>--
>George Hester
>_________________________________
>"Henri Yandell" <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote in message
>news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0207272149280.28369-100000@umbongo.flamefew.net...
>
>
>>I think what you're looking at, George, is a misunderstanding on each
>>sides. The real person who should be complained at is whoever set up the
>>Newsgroup without making you read the legalese and descriptions concerning
>>the mail list it really pointed to.
>>
>>For example, Jakarta General is about cross-project and general jakarta
>>topics, not about a particular project. The mail list subscription method
>>makes this obvious, but the newsgroup must not.
>>
>>Hen
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, George Hester wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>God I only mentioned that I am using a newsgroup because you said my post
>>>
>>>
>does
>
>
>>>not belong here. Give me a break. The name of this newsgroup is
>>>gmane.comp.jakarta.general. Now I had a general jakarta question. What
>>>
>>>
>more do
>
>
>>>you want from me? I am not using anything mysterious. If you knew how to
>>>
>>>
>hook
>
>
>>>up to this newserver you could use it also. It's not rocket science bud.
>>>
>>>--
>>>George Hester
>>>_________________________________
>>>"Ian Atkin" <ia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:3D434698.3040005@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.gmane.org/
>>>>
>>>><quote>
>>>>...You can post to these mailing lists without being subscribed to them
>>>>yourself...
>>>></quote>
>>>>
>>>>sneaky :-)
>>>>
>>>>don't be so petty, this *is* an apache provided mailing list and you are
>>>>using a mail-to-news bi-direction to make you're life easier - we are
>>>>still right to insist that you've mailed us
>>>>
>>>>the fact that you have a different "interface" does not change the fact
>>>>that apache.org provide this list for a purpose (inter-project stuff)
>>>>and your mail was outside it's scope
>>>>
>>>>enforcing subscriptions to lists is the main way to coerce users to post
>>>>to the right ones, we've got to find out what lists there are and what
>>>>they are for before we can post to them
>>>>
>>>>such mail-to-news gimmicks as you're using are interesting (email wasn't
>>>>designed for threaded discussion), but as your posts demonstrate they
>>>>enable slackness
>>>>
>>>>mis-posting is a real source of "noise" on mailing lists and subscribers
>>>>are 100% right to jump on them - i've been on the end of this myself in
>>>>the past and have learnt as a result
>>>>
>>>>before you get you're back up about the idiot link did you read the
>>>>following pages mentioned at that location?
>>>>
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html &
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
>>>>
>>>>you certainly didn't before you're original post, otherwise you would
>>>>have posted to tomcat-user
>>>>
>>>>so politely as i can, if it makes you happy, post to the
>>>>gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
>>>><http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user>
>>>>newsgroup then!
>>>>
>>>>George Hester wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>it.
>
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>it
>
>
>>>or
>>>
>>>
>>>>>not!
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>George Hester
>>>>>_________________________________
>>>>>"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
>>>>>>The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
>>>>>>tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
>>>>>>list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
>>>>>>advice.
>>>>>>And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
>>>>>>mailinglist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mvgr,
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>And
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>ending
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>do
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>George Hester
>>>>>>>_________________________________
>>>>>>>"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
>>>>>>>>>isn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>project-by-project
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>d.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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RE: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat 4.0.1 installed?
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> My opinion in this whole exchange is this. The people who have
> respnded haven't
> the slightest idea what I am talikng about and since they KNOW I
> am posting in
> the wrong newsgroup they latch onto that.
Thats pretty much right, we don't *want* to read tomcat related email on
this list, whether we understand it or not, so we probably didn't even read
it through. (Athough I think it sounds like your services are trying to use
the same ports, tomcat uses more than just 8080)
> I'll take this
> question elsewhere it
> is not worth the enegy bickering about what newsgroup is the
> correct newsgroup
> to post in as my inquiry goes unanswered.
*We* do not provide newsgroups, *We* provide mailing lists, you should
subscribe to the tomcat users mailing list, instructions for which you would
have found find if you had read this link
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
*You* are using a mail->news service that is not related in any way to this
project, it is up to you to learn how to use it.
> Thank you Hans for
> pointing out to me
> that Newsgroups are not a place to make friends especially if I
> made a mistake.
Oh you can make friends, but not by ignoring the advice people give you, and
not if you treat the people you find like idiots, make friends by asking
intelligent questions and *listening* to the answers.
d.
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat 4.0.1 installed?
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
My opinion in this whole exchange is this. The people who have respnded haven't
the slightest idea what I am talikng about and since they KNOW I am posting in
the wrong newsgroup they latch onto that. I'll take this question elsewhere it
is not worth the enegy bickering about what newsgroup is the correct newsgroup
to post in as my inquiry goes unanswered. Thank you Hans for pointing out to me
that Newsgroups are not a place to make friends especially if I made a mistake.
--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Henri Yandell" <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0207272149280.28369-100000@umbongo.flamefew.net...
>
> I think what you're looking at, George, is a misunderstanding on each
> sides. The real person who should be complained at is whoever set up the
> Newsgroup without making you read the legalese and descriptions concerning
> the mail list it really pointed to.
>
> For example, Jakarta General is about cross-project and general jakarta
> topics, not about a particular project. The mail list subscription method
> makes this obvious, but the newsgroup must not.
>
> Hen
>
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, George Hester wrote:
>
> > God I only mentioned that I am using a newsgroup because you said my post
does
> > not belong here. Give me a break. The name of this newsgroup is
> > gmane.comp.jakarta.general. Now I had a general jakarta question. What
more do
> > you want from me? I am not using anything mysterious. If you knew how to
hook
> > up to this newserver you could use it also. It's not rocket science bud.
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > _________________________________
> > "Ian Atkin" <ia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3D434698.3040005@blueyonder.co.uk...
> > >
> > > http://www.gmane.org/
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > > ...You can post to these mailing lists without being subscribed to them
> > > yourself...
> > > </quote>
> > >
> > > sneaky :-)
> > >
> > > don't be so petty, this *is* an apache provided mailing list and you are
> > > using a mail-to-news bi-direction to make you're life easier - we are
> > > still right to insist that you've mailed us
> > >
> > > the fact that you have a different "interface" does not change the fact
> > > that apache.org provide this list for a purpose (inter-project stuff)
> > > and your mail was outside it's scope
> > >
> > > enforcing subscriptions to lists is the main way to coerce users to post
> > > to the right ones, we've got to find out what lists there are and what
> > > they are for before we can post to them
> > >
> > > such mail-to-news gimmicks as you're using are interesting (email wasn't
> > > designed for threaded discussion), but as your posts demonstrate they
> > > enable slackness
> > >
> > > mis-posting is a real source of "noise" on mailing lists and subscribers
> > > are 100% right to jump on them - i've been on the end of this myself in
> > > the past and have learnt as a result
> > >
> > > before you get you're back up about the idiot link did you read the
> > > following pages mentioned at that location?
> > >
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html &
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
> > >
> > > you certainly didn't before you're original post, otherwise you would
> > > have posted to tomcat-user
> > >
> > > so politely as i can, if it makes you happy, post to the
> > > gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
> > > <http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user>
> > > newsgroup then!
> > >
> > > George Hester wrote:
> > >
> > > >Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave
it.
> > I
> > > >am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive
it
> > or
> > > >not!
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >George Hester
> > > >_________________________________
> > > >"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
> > > >>The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
> > > >>tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
> > > >>list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
> > > >>advice.
> > > >>And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
> > > >>mailinglist.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mvgr,
> > > >>Martin
> > > >>
> > > >>On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled
gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >And
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link
ending
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >in
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I
do
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >not
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--
> > > >>>George Hester
> > > >>>_________________________________
> > > >>>"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> > > >>>news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
> > > >>>>>isn't.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >project-by-project
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>d.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--
> > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat
4.0.1 installed?
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
I think what you're looking at, George, is a misunderstanding on each
sides. The real person who should be complained at is whoever set up the
Newsgroup without making you read the legalese and descriptions concerning
the mail list it really pointed to.
For example, Jakarta General is about cross-project and general jakarta
topics, not about a particular project. The mail list subscription method
makes this obvious, but the newsgroup must not.
Hen
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, George Hester wrote:
> God I only mentioned that I am using a newsgroup because you said my post does
> not belong here. Give me a break. The name of this newsgroup is
> gmane.comp.jakarta.general. Now I had a general jakarta question. What more do
> you want from me? I am not using anything mysterious. If you knew how to hook
> up to this newserver you could use it also. It's not rocket science bud.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Ian Atkin" <ia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3D434698.3040005@blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > http://www.gmane.org/
> >
> > <quote>
> > ...You can post to these mailing lists without being subscribed to them
> > yourself...
> > </quote>
> >
> > sneaky :-)
> >
> > don't be so petty, this *is* an apache provided mailing list and you are
> > using a mail-to-news bi-direction to make you're life easier - we are
> > still right to insist that you've mailed us
> >
> > the fact that you have a different "interface" does not change the fact
> > that apache.org provide this list for a purpose (inter-project stuff)
> > and your mail was outside it's scope
> >
> > enforcing subscriptions to lists is the main way to coerce users to post
> > to the right ones, we've got to find out what lists there are and what
> > they are for before we can post to them
> >
> > such mail-to-news gimmicks as you're using are interesting (email wasn't
> > designed for threaded discussion), but as your posts demonstrate they
> > enable slackness
> >
> > mis-posting is a real source of "noise" on mailing lists and subscribers
> > are 100% right to jump on them - i've been on the end of this myself in
> > the past and have learnt as a result
> >
> > before you get you're back up about the idiot link did you read the
> > following pages mentioned at that location?
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html &
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
> >
> > you certainly didn't before you're original post, otherwise you would
> > have posted to tomcat-user
> >
> > so politely as i can, if it makes you happy, post to the
> > gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
> > <http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user>
> > newsgroup then!
> >
> > George Hester wrote:
> >
> > >Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave it.
> I
> > >am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive it
> or
> > >not!
> > >
> > >--
> > >George Hester
> > >_________________________________
> > >"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
> > >news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
> > >
> > >
> > >>We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
> > >>The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
> > >>tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
> > >>list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
> > >>advice.
> > >>And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
> > >>mailinglist.
> > >>
> > >>Mvgr,
> > >>Martin
> > >>
> > >>On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >And
> > >
> > >
> > >>>why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link ending
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >in
> > >
> > >
> > >>>idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I do
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >not
> > >
> > >
> > >>>need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>George Hester
> > >>>_________________________________
> > >>>"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> > >>>news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
> > >>>>>isn't.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >project-by-project
> > >
> > >
> > >>>>technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>>d.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat 4.0.1 installed?
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
God I only mentioned that I am using a newsgroup because you said my post does
not belong here. Give me a break. The name of this newsgroup is
gmane.comp.jakarta.general. Now I had a general jakarta question. What more do
you want from me? I am not using anything mysterious. If you knew how to hook
up to this newserver you could use it also. It's not rocket science bud.
--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Ian Atkin" <ia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3D434698.3040005@blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> http://www.gmane.org/
>
> <quote>
> ...You can post to these mailing lists without being subscribed to them
> yourself...
> </quote>
>
> sneaky :-)
>
> don't be so petty, this *is* an apache provided mailing list and you are
> using a mail-to-news bi-direction to make you're life easier - we are
> still right to insist that you've mailed us
>
> the fact that you have a different "interface" does not change the fact
> that apache.org provide this list for a purpose (inter-project stuff)
> and your mail was outside it's scope
>
> enforcing subscriptions to lists is the main way to coerce users to post
> to the right ones, we've got to find out what lists there are and what
> they are for before we can post to them
>
> such mail-to-news gimmicks as you're using are interesting (email wasn't
> designed for threaded discussion), but as your posts demonstrate they
> enable slackness
>
> mis-posting is a real source of "noise" on mailing lists and subscribers
> are 100% right to jump on them - i've been on the end of this myself in
> the past and have learnt as a result
>
> before you get you're back up about the idiot link did you read the
> following pages mentioned at that location?
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html &
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
>
> you certainly didn't before you're original post, otherwise you would
> have posted to tomcat-user
>
> so politely as i can, if it makes you happy, post to the
> gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
> <http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user>
> newsgroup then!
>
> George Hester wrote:
>
> >Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave it.
I
> >am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive it
or
> >not!
> >
> >--
> >George Hester
> >_________________________________
> >"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
> >news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
> >
> >
> >>We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
> >>The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
> >>tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
> >>list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
> >>advice.
> >>And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
> >>mailinglist.
> >>
> >>Mvgr,
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
> >>>
> >>>
> >And
> >
> >
> >>>why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link ending
> >>>
> >>>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>>idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I do
> >>>
> >>>
> >not
> >
> >
> >>>need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>George Hester
> >>>_________________________________
> >>>"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
> >>>>>isn't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >project-by-project
> >
> >
> >>>>technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> >>>>
> >>>>d.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat
4.0.1 installed?
Posted by Ian Atkin <ia...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
http://www.gmane.org/
<quote>
...You can post to these mailing lists without being subscribed to them
yourself...
</quote>
sneaky :-)
don't be so petty, this *is* an apache provided mailing list and you are
using a mail-to-news bi-direction to make you're life easier - we are
still right to insist that you've mailed us
the fact that you have a different "interface" does not change the fact
that apache.org provide this list for a purpose (inter-project stuff)
and your mail was outside it's scope
enforcing subscriptions to lists is the main way to coerce users to post
to the right ones, we've got to find out what lists there are and what
they are for before we can post to them
such mail-to-news gimmicks as you're using are interesting (email wasn't
designed for threaded discussion), but as your posts demonstrate they
enable slackness
mis-posting is a real source of "noise" on mailing lists and subscribers
are 100% right to jump on them - i've been on the end of this myself in
the past and have learnt as a result
before you get you're back up about the idiot link did you read the
following pages mentioned at that location?
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html &
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
you certainly didn't before you're original post, otherwise you would
have posted to tomcat-user
so politely as i can, if it makes you happy, post to the
gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
<http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user>
newsgroup then!
George Hester wrote:
>Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave it. I
>am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive it or
>not!
>
>--
>George Hester
>_________________________________
>"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
>news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
>
>
>>We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
>>The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
>>tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
>>list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
>>advice.
>>And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
>>mailinglist.
>>
>>Mvgr,
>>Martin
>>
>>On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
>>>
>>>
>And
>
>
>>>why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link ending
>>>
>>>
>in
>
>
>>>idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I do
>>>
>>>
>not
>
>
>>>need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
>>>
>>>--
>>>George Hester
>>>_________________________________
>>>"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
>>>news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
>>>>>isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
>>>>
>>>>
>project-by-project
>
>
>>>>technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>>>>
>>>>d.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 alsoTomacat 4.0.1 installed?
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
Believe it or not I am not posting this in a Mail list. Take it or leave it. I
am posting this to the Newsgroup that I said I was posting it to. Belive it or
not!
--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Martin van den Bemt" <ml...@mvdb.net> wrote in message
news:1027815848.8077.58.camel@swami...
> We don't have any newsgroups afaik..
> The idiot links was there because you were asked to post it to
> tomcat-user mailinglist and your reply was that this was the correct
> list, which clearly wasn't.. So don't blame us for you ignoring the
> advice.
> And about helping you out : we love to, but just not on this
> mailinglist.
>
> Mvgr,
> Martin
>
> On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 02:15, George Hester wrote:
> > Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
And
> > why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link ending
in
> > idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I do
not
> > need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > _________________________________
> > "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> > news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> > > > It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
> > > > isn't.
> > >
> > > No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
project-by-project
> > > technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
> > >
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> > >
> > > d.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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