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Posted to user@couchdb.apache.org by Mehdi El Fadil <me...@mango-is.com> on 2011/11/16 13:52:48 UTC
Fwd: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Hello,
I have received the following mail from cloundant:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM
> Subject: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
>
Hi,
In response to recent comments,
Cloudant<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=10&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>is
conducting a survey to help find new ways to improve Apache CouchDB
and
its community.
Since you've registered an interest in Apache CouchDB at Cloudant.com in
the past, I'm asking for your participation.
The survey should only take a few minutes, and responses will be kept
anonymous.
At the end of the survey period, on *Friday December 5*, we will:
- Share the survey results publicly
- Award a $500 Amazon Gift Certificate to a randomly chosen participant
- Donate $5 per survey participant to the Apache Software
Foundation<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=11&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
Here's the link to the survey. Feel free to share it with other people who
are familiar with CouchDB.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/couchDB-community<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=12&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
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Surveying couchdb community looks like a good initiative to me, because I
feel like couchdb is failing at listening to its users/customers and
communicating with them (just a personal point of view based on my own
experience, your mileage may vary).
I did not find the survey in this mailing list, as well as no announcement
on twitter, for a reason that is unclear to me.
Well, now you have it, in case you are interested.
Cheers,
Mehdi.
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Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by john tigernassau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Jan, et al,
1) the community is excellent
2) couchfb is excellent
3) short 5 min tutorials are needed
A) how to do auth & auth - really a big issue from the rdbms world
B) best practices - when to use couchdb, couchapp, bigcouch
C) best practices using design doc
D) best practices for security & bavckup
4) cookbook wiki
On Nov 16, 2011 10:10 AM, "Alexander Gabriel" <al...@barbalex.ch> wrote:
> this mailing list is about as helpful and competent as they get
> a major argument to use couchdb
> just my 2 cents
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> 2011/11/16 Mehdi El Fadil <me...@mango-is.com>
>
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> > > that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody
> > happy.
> > > That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
> >
> >
> > I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
> > couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
> > amazing work - and they still are.
> > Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
> > thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
> >
> > I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mehdi.
> >
>
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Dave Cottlehuber <da...@muse.net.nz>.
On 16 November 2011 18:26, Marcello Nuccio <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> 2011/11/16 Miles Fidelman <mf...@meetinghouse.net>:
>> Mike Kimber wrote:
>>>
>>> Add me in as well, the couchdb mailing list is the best I've used to date!
>>>
>>
>> +1 excellent community list
>>
>
+5 !!! no, +10 !!!
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Marcello Nuccio <ma...@gmail.com>.
+1
2011/11/16 Miles Fidelman <mf...@meetinghouse.net>:
> Mike Kimber wrote:
>>
>> Add me in as well, the couchdb mailing list is the best I've used to date!
>>
>
> +1 excellent community list
>
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Miles Fidelman <mf...@meetinghouse.net>.
Mike Kimber wrote:
> Add me in as well, the couchdb mailing list is the best I've used to date!
>
+1 excellent community list
RE: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Mike Kimber <mk...@kana.com>.
Add me in as well, the couchdb mailing list is the best I've used to date!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Woodward [mailto:matt@mattwoodward.com]
Sent: 16 November 2011 15:57
To: user@couchdb.apache.org
Subject: Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Alexander Gabriel <al...@barbalex.ch> wrote:
> this mailing list is about as helpful and competent as they get
> a major argument to use couchdb
>
+1--I've had numerous questions answered on this list very quickly and in
one particular case the folks at CouchBase went above and beyond to help.
I'm involved with a lot of open source projects and this mailing list is by
far the best signal to noise, not to mention the level of civility is much
better, than most of the other project with which I'm involved.
--
Matthew Woodward
matt@mattwoodward.com
http://blog.mattwoodward.com
identi.ca / Twitter: @mpwoodward
Please do not send me proprietary file formats such as Word, PowerPoint,
etc. as attachments.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Matthew Woodward <ma...@mattwoodward.com>.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Alexander Gabriel <al...@barbalex.ch> wrote:
> this mailing list is about as helpful and competent as they get
> a major argument to use couchdb
>
+1--I've had numerous questions answered on this list very quickly and in
one particular case the folks at CouchBase went above and beyond to help.
I'm involved with a lot of open source projects and this mailing list is by
far the best signal to noise, not to mention the level of civility is much
better, than most of the other project with which I'm involved.
--
Matthew Woodward
matt@mattwoodward.com
http://blog.mattwoodward.com
identi.ca / Twitter: @mpwoodward
Please do not send me proprietary file formats such as Word, PowerPoint,
etc. as attachments.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Alexander Gabriel <al...@barbalex.ch>.
this mailing list is about as helpful and competent as they get
a major argument to use couchdb
just my 2 cents
Alex
2011/11/16 Mehdi El Fadil <me...@mango-is.com>
> Hi Jan,
>
> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> > that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody
> happy.
> > That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
>
>
> I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
> couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
> amazing work - and they still are.
> Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
> thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
>
> I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mehdi.
>
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by James Marca <jm...@translab.its.uci.edu>.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 09:25:13PM +0100, Marcello Nuccio wrote:
> I agree: good books an manuals are essential, and "CouchDB: The
> Definitive Guide" is not enough.
>
> However the comparison with PostgreSQL is not fair.
> CouchDB is a very young project and the whole "NoSQL movement" (sorry,
> I don't know how to name it...) is also very young. I'm confident that
> things will get better with time.
I totally agree. I'm not saying CouchDB should be there now, I'm
just pointing at what I like from a mature product and respectfully
requesting that the documentation effort head in that direction.
And after posting this I found that the CouchDB book is on github!
(https://github.com/oreilly/couchdb-guide.git) So I cloned it and
hopefully will get time to edit the text. First stop is replication.
Regards,
James
>
> Marcello
>
> 2011/11/16 James Marca <jm...@translab.its.uci.edu>:
> > I agree with others that the mailing list is great.
> >
> > But I'm one of those people who like learning from books and manuals,
> > and so for me the wiki is the go to documentation source. This is my
> > only real complaint about the CouchDB ecosystem: the wiki doesn't
> > replace good documentation and has parts that are out of date.
> >
> > In contrast, I really like the PostgreSQL documentation. It offers
> > page after page of detailed explanation that allows for user comments
> > and is synchronized with each version of PostgreSQL, so if you're running
> > 8.4 you can read the 8.4 manual, 9.1 gets the 9.1, etc. I wish there
> > was an equivalent documentation source versioned according the major
> > CouchDB releases. I know nothing about the organization there, but my
> > guess is they make all new hires slog through the manual and update
> > everything touched by all new features.
> >
> > The O'Reilly book that is on-line is also a good resource, but is also
> > out of date. It would be great to go to that site and click to get the
> > 1.1.x version of the book, or the 1.2.x, etc.
> >
> > And these suggestions are offered in the spirit of "make CouchDB
> > *more* super mega rad".
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > James Marca
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:40:59PM +0100, Mehdi El Fadil wrote:
> >> Hi Jan,
> >>
> >> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> >> > that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy.
> >> > That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
> >>
> >>
> >> I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
> >> couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
> >> amazing work - and they still are.
> >> Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
> >> thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
> >>
> >> I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Mehdi.
> >
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Marcello Nuccio <ma...@gmail.com>.
I agree: good books an manuals are essential, and "CouchDB: The
Definitive Guide" is not enough.
However the comparison with PostgreSQL is not fair.
CouchDB is a very young project and the whole "NoSQL movement" (sorry,
I don't know how to name it...) is also very young. I'm confident that
things will get better with time.
Marcello
2011/11/16 James Marca <jm...@translab.its.uci.edu>:
> I agree with others that the mailing list is great.
>
> But I'm one of those people who like learning from books and manuals,
> and so for me the wiki is the go to documentation source. This is my
> only real complaint about the CouchDB ecosystem: the wiki doesn't
> replace good documentation and has parts that are out of date.
>
> In contrast, I really like the PostgreSQL documentation. It offers
> page after page of detailed explanation that allows for user comments
> and is synchronized with each version of PostgreSQL, so if you're running
> 8.4 you can read the 8.4 manual, 9.1 gets the 9.1, etc. I wish there
> was an equivalent documentation source versioned according the major
> CouchDB releases. I know nothing about the organization there, but my
> guess is they make all new hires slog through the manual and update
> everything touched by all new features.
>
> The O'Reilly book that is on-line is also a good resource, but is also
> out of date. It would be great to go to that site and click to get the
> 1.1.x version of the book, or the 1.2.x, etc.
>
> And these suggestions are offered in the spirit of "make CouchDB
> *more* super mega rad".
>
> Regards
>
> James Marca
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:40:59PM +0100, Mehdi El Fadil wrote:
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
>> > that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy.
>> > That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
>>
>>
>> I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
>> couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
>> amazing work - and they still are.
>> Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
>> thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
>>
>> I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mehdi.
>
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by James Marca <jm...@translab.its.uci.edu>.
I agree with others that the mailing list is great.
But I'm one of those people who like learning from books and manuals,
and so for me the wiki is the go to documentation source. This is my
only real complaint about the CouchDB ecosystem: the wiki doesn't
replace good documentation and has parts that are out of date.
In contrast, I really like the PostgreSQL documentation. It offers
page after page of detailed explanation that allows for user comments
and is synchronized with each version of PostgreSQL, so if you're running
8.4 you can read the 8.4 manual, 9.1 gets the 9.1, etc. I wish there
was an equivalent documentation source versioned according the major
CouchDB releases. I know nothing about the organization there, but my
guess is they make all new hires slog through the manual and update
everything touched by all new features.
The O'Reilly book that is on-line is also a good resource, but is also
out of date. It would be great to go to that site and click to get the
1.1.x version of the book, or the 1.2.x, etc.
And these suggestions are offered in the spirit of "make CouchDB
*more* super mega rad".
Regards
James Marca
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:40:59PM +0100, Mehdi El Fadil wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> > that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy.
> > That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
>
>
> I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
> couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
> amazing work - and they still are.
> Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
> thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
>
> I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mehdi.
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Mehdi El Fadil <me...@mango-is.com>.
Hi Jan,
I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy.
> That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
I perhaps should have put a disclaimer before criticizing: I think that
couchdb is a great tool, and the participants in this projects have done
amazing work - and they still are.
Also, for sure, you cannot satisfy to all demands, and that is a good
thing, to keep couchdb consistent.
I will give you more details about my thoughts in private soon.
Cheers,
Mehdi.
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
I don't think it's too surprising that Cloudant did not send this user
survey to the CouchDB mailing list. :) Seems like basic netiquette to
me,
B.
On 16 November 2011 14:01, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2011, at 13:52 , Mehdi El Fadil wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have received the following mail from cloundant:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>
>>> Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM
>>> Subject: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In response to recent comments,
>> Cloudant<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=10&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>is
>> conducting a survey to help find new ways to improve Apache CouchDB
>> and
>> its community.
>>
>> Since you've registered an interest in Apache CouchDB at Cloudant.com in
>> the past, I'm asking for your participation.
>>
>> The survey should only take a few minutes, and responses will be kept
>> anonymous.
>>
>> At the end of the survey period, on *Friday December 5*, we will:
>>
>> - Share the survey results publicly
>> - Award a $500 Amazon Gift Certificate to a randomly chosen participant
>> - Donate $5 per survey participant to the Apache Software
>> Foundation<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=11&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
>>
>> Here's the link to the survey. Feel free to share it with other people who
>> are familiar with CouchDB.
>>
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/couchDB-community<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=12&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Surveying couchdb community looks like a good initiative to me, because I
>> feel like couchdb is failing at listening to its users/customers and
>> communicating with them (just a personal point of view based on my own
>> experience, your mileage may vary).
>
> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy. That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
>
>
>> I did not find the survey in this mailing list, as well as no announcement
>> on twitter, for a reason that is unclear to me.
>
> That question you'll have to ask Cloudant, the initiators of the survey.
>
>
>> Well, now you have it, in case you are interested.
>
> Thanks for speaking up.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
> --
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mehdi.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *
>> Mehdi El Fadil
>> twitter: @mango_info <http://www.twitter.com/mango_info>
>> website: http://www.mango-is.com
>> linkedin: http://be.linkedin.com/in/elfadme
>> *
>> <http://www.mango-is.com>
>
>
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Mehdi El Fadil <me...@mango-is.com>.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note
> that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy.
> That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
>
Hi Jan,
Here is the promised feedback about my experience, I hope it will be useful:
Before starting, I should tell that overall my experience with couchdb is
positive. My goal here is to provide a hopefully constructive feedback,
about some weaknesses I have felt about couchdb.
Doubts I have are in the line of some opinions which have already been
expressed here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3180397.
Alex Popescu comments about it: "If only *they* would have listened to what
I’ve been saying all this time. " (
http://nosql.mypopescu.com/post/12237740756/what-happened-to-couchdbs-popularity
)
The bottom line of my opinion is that you guys are too tech-focused, and
are ignoring what couchdb users need. By users I mean those who are not
that technical, not into couchdb internals, those who might decide in the
companies whether this technology will be chosen for the next project (and
these guys are not always technical).
Here is more detail, where I think there could be improvement (in no
particular order):
- *Involving your 'customers' in the selection of features to add*. Yes,
users have the possibility to enter features requests into Jira, but this
requires a proactive effort from their part, + registration. What about
polling the community from time to time via a survey? or just analyzing the
recurring questions inside users mailing list? My feeling right now is that
features are proposed / decided by technical people very close to the
development of couchdb. It is all about technical optimizations, and not
about functional optimizations. I am pretty sure, if you ask users, they
will come up with ideas you did not think of and might think are good.
- *Roadmap communication*: we -users, non couchdb developers - do not
know where couchdb is heading. The content of Jira is too technical and
there are too many info in there. Having a single page summarizing the next
big changes would definitely help.
- *Better promotion of the couchdb ecosystem*: I understand that you -
in the context of Apache couchdb project - might want to keep focusing on
the couchdb engine, and that you consider that side utilities like Futon or
the jQuery library do not deserve more effort to put on. However, these
tools to interact with couchdb are essential to the rest of us. It might be
worth promoting the existing ecosystem around couchdb, like maintaining a
directory of tools to import/export/administer/query/index/deploy/scale
couchdb. Many things exist around, but not that easy to find, and it is not
clear about maturity of each, and whether they are still maintained. Yes,
community, users like me, should participate in such activities by
maintaining the wiki. Send us a reminder via users mailing list from time
to time maybe?
- *Documentation*: There is a documentation problem in couchdb.
Documents exist, some things are very well documented, some other not.
Things got outdated with newer versions of couchdb but are not updated (eg.
new security features not mentioned in old documents).
- The following might hurt, sorry about that: the couchdb definitive
guide is not as well written as advertised. If you are looking for one
specific info on a topic and open the corresponding chapter, it might be
ok. If you get started with couchdb and take this book to read for a
week-end, then you notice the problems. Some ideas are repeated so many
times chapter after chapter. Also, versions 1 and draft co-exist, with no
indication whatsoever of their differences. Content seems to be the same.
In case there is no update going on, then just hide this draft version.
- Wiki could definitely have more content (eg. jquery.couch.js), be
more updated and show more examples.
- damn what do you have against jquery.couch.js? Documentation moved
from couch.io to couchone then to couchbase... and then it somehow
disappeared from there. and damn in 2011 no search features in
couchbase.com blog? There are Dale Harvey's, Lena Lena's and Bradley
Holt's, but none of them is really complete (or at least few
Months ago it
was like that)
- couchdb businesses down here: couchbase, cloudant... should
definitely create a library with complete, up-to-date how-to
guides on the
topics people keep asking all the time.
- *Support*: some technical questions in the users mailing list
receive no answer. Not often fortunately, but when it happens it's too bad.
For couchdb volunteers I understand they work on a voluntary basis. This
comment is therefore more directed to the ones also working at couchbase,
cloudant, or other businesses depending on couchdb, looks like their
interest to insure good customer support via the mailing list also.
- *Marketing couchdb* *and credibility towards companies*: I think you
should improve the way how couchdb is "sold". Of course it all depends on
what your goal is, having couchdb as an open source project. Is it: we know
what we are doing, we do a great tool, and we let the others find out by
themselves that it is", or is it "We create couchdb to serve a purpose,
listen to the users in order to have the features matching to their
requirements, and show them that the tool fits their needs not any need, of
course you keep focus on something)". At some point there was confusion
between the various distributions of couchdb, I think you guys have noticed
that. I have been evaluating couchdb as a solution for my current startup
project. I have had serious doubts about whether I could find easily
skilled couchdb developers, and I am still not convinced that it is the
case. I have asked the question once and was told 'no no, there are plenty
of couchdb developers'. I don't need to be told that, I need you to show it
to me. I have been looking for someone able to develop a multidimensional
view engine on the side of the existing view mechanism, result was 404 -
not found.
I hope these words will be helpful to you.
Cheers,
Mehdi.
P.S.: according to points of views couchdb might be in an identity crisis
right now. You guys still have potential, and being in the shadow of the
nosql hype can be an opportunity to evolve in a more innovative direction
than where most people are driving nosql, and create something (more)
different. keep up the good work.
Re: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
On Nov 16, 2011, at 13:52 , Mehdi El Fadil wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have received the following mail from cloundant:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
>> Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM
>> Subject: 2011 Apache CouchDB Community Survey...
>>
> Hi,
>
> In response to recent comments,
> Cloudant<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=10&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>is
> conducting a survey to help find new ways to improve Apache CouchDB
> and
> its community.
>
> Since you've registered an interest in Apache CouchDB at Cloudant.com in
> the past, I'm asking for your participation.
>
> The survey should only take a few minutes, and responses will be kept
> anonymous.
>
> At the end of the survey period, on *Friday December 5*, we will:
>
> - Share the survey results publicly
> - Award a $500 Amazon Gift Certificate to a randomly chosen participant
> - Donate $5 per survey participant to the Apache Software
> Foundation<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=11&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
>
> Here's the link to the survey. Feel free to share it with other people who
> are familiar with CouchDB.
>
> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/couchDB-community<http://lfov.net/webrecorder/c/?cid=LF_3ee937a2&lid=12&vid=37da98b1-eb43-42f7-ac96-ae67fed95614&email=projects%40mango-is.com&kid=2&ts=0>
>
>
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>
> Surveying couchdb community looks like a good initiative to me, because I
> feel like couchdb is failing at listening to its users/customers and
> communicating with them (just a personal point of view based on my own
> experience, your mileage may vary).
I'd be interested to hear where exactly we fail to look after users. Note that this is a voluntary effort and we can't possibly make everybody happy. That said, we're trying and I'd be happy to learn where we can improve.
> I did not find the survey in this mailing list, as well as no announcement
> on twitter, for a reason that is unclear to me.
That question you'll have to ask Cloudant, the initiators of the survey.
> Well, now you have it, in case you are interested.
Thanks for speaking up.
Cheers
Jan
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