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Posted to dev@metron.apache.org by Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com> on 2019/03/05 16:12:38 UTC
[DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Hello everyone,
I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in both
the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the two
UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
tabs from Ambari.
I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
in Metron?
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by "Zeolla@GMail.com" <ze...@gmail.com>.
I use both screens frequently on prod clusters. I don't know how prevalent
that use case is though.
Jon
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:33 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you should post to the users@ list
> >
> >
> > On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ardell@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> > sense.
> >
> > However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has
> direct
> > user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> > screens.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <
> rmckissick@hortonworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > > persona.
> > > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a
> need
> > > for either of these
> > > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > > two UIs would
> > > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> > >
> > > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch
> between
> > > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> > >
> > > Rita
> > >
> > > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > > rmckissick@hortonworks.com
> > > (mobile) 831-234-3676 <(831)%20234-3676>
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" <mi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > > (soc
> > > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > > I'd
> > > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > > in both
> > > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > > the two
> > > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > > separate
> > > > tabs from Ambari.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > > we want
> > > > in Metron?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Jon Zeolla
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>.
Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Maybe you should post to the users@ list
>
>
> On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ardell@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> sense.
>
> However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
> user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> screens.
>
> Shane
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <rm...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > persona.
> > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> > for either of these
> > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > two UIs would
> > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> >
> > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> >
> > Rita
> >
> > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > rmckissick@hortonworks.com
> > (mobile) 831-234-3676
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" <mi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > (soc
> > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > I'd
> > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > in both
> > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > the two
> > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > separate
> > > tabs from Ambari.
> > >
> > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > we want
> > > in Metron?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Maybe you should post to the users@ list
On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ardell@gmail.com)
wrote:
Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.
However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.
Shane
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <rm...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:
> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckissick@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.
However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.
Shane
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <rm...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:
> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckissick@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by Rita McKissick <rm...@hortonworks.com>.
That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations persona.
And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need for either of these
personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the two UIs would
be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between the two UIs, but I'm not
really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
Rita
Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
rmckissick@hortonworks.com
(mobile) 831-234-3676
On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles (soc
analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I'd
be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
Mike
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in both
> the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the two
> UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
> tabs from Ambari.
>
> I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
> in Metron?
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI
Posted by Michael Miklavcic <mi...@gmail.com>.
The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles (soc
analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I'd
be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
Mike
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell <sh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in both
> the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the two
> UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
> tabs from Ambari.
>
> I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
> in Metron?
>