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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> on 2011/10/20 08:58:50 UTC

gsoc/webtest vs gsoc/manila?

Hi folks!

We now have 2 GSOC test projects which are based on Arquillian:

a.) gsoc/webtest [1] which got implemented last year and is already in our SVN (but not yet released)  and

b.) gsoc/manila [2] which is not yet granted to the ASF (or is it?)

What is the state of both projects? 

If I understood them correctly both cover the same areas (at least partly).

Oh yes, and having to write something like:
@WebappDependency.List
({
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-impl:jar:1.1.0"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-spi:jar:1.1.0"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-jsf:jar:1.1.0"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-resource:jar:1.1.0"),
    @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-web:jar:1.1.0"),
    @WebappDependency("javassist:javassist:jar:3.12.0.GA"),
    @WebappDependency("net.sf.scannotation:scannotation:jar:1.0.2")
})


in a test Java class is an absolute no-go for me! This is terribly to maintain and will way too often be broken...


Such things must NOT be part of any test class!

LieGrue,
strub



[1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/gsoc/webapptest

[2]http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/manila/trunk


Re: gsoc/webtest vs gsoc/manila?

Posted by Jan Zarnikov <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark,

Manila allows you to specify the test dependencies in several ways,
you can have a look at the examples.

@Manila hosting:
I decided to use assembla SVN hosting because I already had several
other private projects there. I don't mind moving it to Apache Extras.

Jan



On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> We now have 2 GSOC test projects which are based on Arquillian:
>
> a.) gsoc/webtest [1] which got implemented last year and is already in our SVN (but not yet released)  and
>
> b.) gsoc/manila [2] which is not yet granted to the ASF (or is it?)
>
> What is the state of both projects?
>
> If I understood them correctly both cover the same areas (at least partly).
>
> Oh yes, and having to write something like:
> @WebappDependency.List
> ({
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-impl:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-spi:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-jsf:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-resource:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-web:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("javassist:javassist:jar:3.12.0.GA"),
>     @WebappDependency("net.sf.scannotation:scannotation:jar:1.0.2")
> })
>
>
> in a test Java class is an absolute no-go for me! This is terribly to maintain and will way too often be broken...
>
>
> Such things must NOT be part of any test class!
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/gsoc/webapptest
>
> [2]http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/manila/trunk
>
>

Re: gsoc/webtest vs gsoc/manila?

Posted by Jakob Korherr <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

> Mhh why is the project not hosted on apache extras which would be the
> perfect place for now?

Since there is no restriction for source code repositories from
Google, I left this choice to the student (Jan), and he preferred
assembla.com.
However, it would totally be fine to move it to myfaces/gsoc in the near future.

Regards,
Jakob

2011/10/20 Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>:
> Mhh why is the project not hosted on apache extras which would be the
> perfect place for now?
>
> Werner
>
>
> Am 10/20/11 9:41 AM, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
>>
>> hi mark,
>>
>> manila is the next generation of myfaces webapp-test.
>> you already mentioned one of the restrictions/issues of myfaces
>> webapp-test and that's the reason why we don't have a release (with
>> manila "everything" would change in the release afterwards).
>>
>> manila solves most of the known issues and should replace webapp-test
>> "v1" as soon as we know that the approach of manila works in ci-servers.
>> imo we should test it before we move the code to apache, because it's
>> useless for us if there are basic issues (esp. in combination with
>> jenkins).
>>
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>>
>> http://www.irian.at
>>
>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>> Courses in English and German
>>
>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>
>>
>> 2011/10/20 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de <ma...@yahoo.de>>
>>
>>    Hi folks!
>>
>>    We now have 2 GSOC test projects which are based on Arquillian:
>>
>>    a.) gsoc/webtest [1] which got implemented last year and is already
>>    in our SVN (but not yet released)  and
>>
>>    b.) gsoc/manila [2] which is not yet granted to the ASF (or is it?)
>>
>>    What is the state of both projects?
>>
>>    If I understood them correctly both cover the same areas (at least
>>    partly).
>>
>>    Oh yes, and having to write something like:
>>    @WebappDependency.List
>>    ({
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-impl:jar:1.1.0"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-spi:jar:1.1.0"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-jsf:jar:1.1.0"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-resource:jar:1.1.0"),
>>
>>
>>  @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-web:jar:1.1.0"),
>>         @WebappDependency("javassist:javassist:jar:3.12.0.GA
>>    <http://3.12.0.ga/>"),
>>         @WebappDependency("net.sf.scannotation:scannotation:jar:1.0.2")
>>    })
>>
>>
>>    in a test Java class is an absolute no-go for me! This is terribly
>>    to maintain and will way too often be broken...
>>
>>
>>    Such things must NOT be part of any test class!
>>
>>    LieGrue,
>>    strub
>>
>>
>>
>>    [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/gsoc/webapptest
>>
>>    [2]http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/manila/trunk
>>
>>
>
>
>



-- 
Jakob Korherr

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Re: gsoc/webtest vs gsoc/manila?

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Mhh why is the project not hosted on apache extras which would be the 
perfect place for now?

Werner


Am 10/20/11 9:41 AM, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
> hi mark,
>
> manila is the next generation of myfaces webapp-test.
> you already mentioned one of the restrictions/issues of myfaces
> webapp-test and that's the reason why we don't have a release (with
> manila "everything" would change in the release afterwards).
>
> manila solves most of the known issues and should replace webapp-test
> "v1" as soon as we know that the approach of manila works in ci-servers.
> imo we should test it before we move the code to apache, because it's
> useless for us if there are basic issues (esp. in combination with jenkins).
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
> 2011/10/20 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de <ma...@yahoo.de>>
>
>     Hi folks!
>
>     We now have 2 GSOC test projects which are based on Arquillian:
>
>     a.) gsoc/webtest [1] which got implemented last year and is already
>     in our SVN (but not yet released)  and
>
>     b.) gsoc/manila [2] which is not yet granted to the ASF (or is it?)
>
>     What is the state of both projects?
>
>     If I understood them correctly both cover the same areas (at least
>     partly).
>
>     Oh yes, and having to write something like:
>     @WebappDependency.List
>     ({
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-impl:jar:1.1.0"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-spi:jar:1.1.0"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-jsf:jar:1.1.0"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-resource:jar:1.1.0"),
>
>     @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-web:jar:1.1.0"),
>          @WebappDependency("javassist:javassist:jar:3.12.0.GA
>     <http://3.12.0.ga/>"),
>          @WebappDependency("net.sf.scannotation:scannotation:jar:1.0.2")
>     })
>
>
>     in a test Java class is an absolute no-go for me! This is terribly
>     to maintain and will way too often be broken...
>
>
>     Such things must NOT be part of any test class!
>
>     LieGrue,
>     strub
>
>
>
>     [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/gsoc/webapptest
>
>     [2]http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/manila/trunk
>
>



Re: gsoc/webtest vs gsoc/manila?

Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
hi mark,

manila is the next generation of myfaces webapp-test.
you already mentioned one of the restrictions/issues of myfaces webapp-test
and that's the reason why we don't have a release (with manila "everything"
would change in the release afterwards).

manila solves most of the known issues and should replace webapp-test "v1"
as soon as we know that the approach of manila works in ci-servers.
imo we should test it before we move the code to apache, because it's
useless for us if there are basic issues (esp. in combination with jenkins).

regards,
gerhard

http://www.irian.at

Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German

Professional Support for Apache MyFaces


2011/10/20 Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>

> Hi folks!
>
> We now have 2 GSOC test projects which are based on Arquillian:
>
> a.) gsoc/webtest [1] which got implemented last year and is already in our
> SVN (but not yet released)  and
>
> b.) gsoc/manila [2] which is not yet granted to the ASF (or is it?)
>
> What is the state of both projects?
>
> If I understood them correctly both cover the same areas (at least partly).
>
> Oh yes, and having to write something like:
> @WebappDependency.List
> ({
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.core:myfaces-extcdi-core-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-jsf20-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-api:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.myfaces.extensions.cdi.modules:myfaces-extcdi-message-module-impl:jar:1.0.2-SNAPSHOT"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-impl:jar:1.1.0"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-spi:jar:1.1.0"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-jsf:jar:1.1.0"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-resource:jar:1.1.0"),
>
> @WebappDependency("org.apache.openwebbeans:openwebbeans-web:jar:1.1.0"),
>     @WebappDependency("javassist:javassist:jar:3.12.0.GA<http://3.12.0.ga/>
> "),
>     @WebappDependency("net.sf.scannotation:scannotation:jar:1.0.2")
> })
>
>
> in a test Java class is an absolute no-go for me! This is terribly to
> maintain and will way too often be broken...
>
>
> Such things must NOT be part of any test class!
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/gsoc/webapptest
>
> [2]http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/manila/trunk
>
>