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Posted to woden-dev@ws.apache.org by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> on 2006/10/19 16:51:56 UTC
Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files)
On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
the distribution.
Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
email to legal-discuss.
Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
files in our distribution.
Cheers,
Jeremy
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
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From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
To: hughesj@apache.org
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
]
Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
--------------------------------------
I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
looking into this issue.
> Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> -----------------------
>
> Key: WODEN-64
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> Project: Woden
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> Priority: Minor
>
> WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there is only one copy
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files)
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <jp...@gmail.com>.
Hi Lawrence, I appreciate your concerns and agree with your plan - lets wait
for legal-discuss before we remove or add any more W3C files. Err that means
someone's got to post Graham's question. It's late here, I'll do it in the
morning if no-one else has.
Thanks,
Jeremy
On 10/19/06, Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jeremy,
>
> I just want to ensure we've got all our legal "i"s dotted and "t"s
> crossed. I've had some trouble in the past (admittedly with Eclipse not
> Apache) with including files in the repository or a distributed package.
> These problems forced my project team to make some very last minute changes
> to a release and clean up the content in our repository. I don't want to
> repeat the experience. :)
>
> Let's leave the files in the repository for now until Graham's enquiry to
> Apache legal is answered. Once we know more we can choose an appropriate
> course of action - if any action is necessary.
>
> (BTW, I don't think there is a difference whether the files are in our
> repository or bundled in a distribution as either way the files can be
> obtained from Apache, which as I understand it means Apache is
> redistributing them. Of course I'm not a lawyer I'm just going on my past
> experience wrt using third party content in open source projects.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> *"Jeremy Hughes" <hu...@apache.org>*
> Sent by: jpjhughes@gmail.com
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> Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
> wsdl*xsd files)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
>
> Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
> to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
>
> IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
> to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
> has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
> the distribution.
>
> Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
> others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
> consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
> WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
>
> As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
> the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
> email to legal-discuss.
>
> Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
> to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
> many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
> directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
> source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
> allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
> legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
> files in our distribution.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
> [2]
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> To: hughesj@apache.org
>
>
> [
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
> ]
>
> Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
> --------------------------------------
>
> I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
> repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
> up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
> experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
> shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
> looking into this issue.
>
> > Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> > -----------------------
> >
> > Key: WODEN-64
> > URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> > Project: Woden
> > Issue Type: Improvement
> > Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> > Priority: Minor
> >
> > WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the
> URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> > wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd
> wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> > which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there
> is only one copy
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
Posted by Arthur Ryman <ry...@ca.ibm.com>.
Jeremy,
Thx. That satisfies the terms AFAIK.
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
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Hi Arthur, I've added this file as LICENSE.wsdl2.html and modified the
build.xml to include the license. In fact strictly speaking because our
distribution won't include W3C files (yet at least) I needn't have added
it to build.xml. Ah well just trying to look ahead I guess :-)
I'd still like to get a confirmation from legal-discuss, like Lawrence
says just incase they have any kind of view on this.
Thanks,
Jeremy
On 10/19/06, Arthur Ryman <ry...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
The W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas are licenced under the W3C Software Licence [1]
We are allowed to redistribute it. We just need to include the notice too.
Here is the text of the licence:
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[1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division
blog: http://ryman.eclipsedevelopersjournal.com/
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
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Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
the distribution.
Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
email to legal-discuss.
Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
files in our distribution.
Cheers,
Jeremy
[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
[2]
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
To: hughesj@apache.org
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
]
Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
--------------------------------------
I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
looking into this issue.
> Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> -----------------------
>
> Key: WODEN-64
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> Project: Woden
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> Priority: Minor
>
> WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the
URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd
wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there
is only one copy
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files)
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>.
Hi Arthur, I've added this file as LICENSE.wsdl2.html and modified the
build.xml to include the license. In fact strictly speaking because our
distribution won't include W3C files (yet at least) I needn't have added it
to build.xml. Ah well just trying to look ahead I guess :-)
I'd still like to get a confirmation from legal-discuss, like Lawrence says
just incase they have any kind of view on this.
Thanks,
Jeremy
On 10/19/06, Arthur Ryman <ry...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
> The W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas are licenced under the W3C Software Licence [1]
>
> We are allowed to redistribute it. We just need to include the notice too.
> Here is the text of the licence:
>
> *W3C(r) SOFTWARE NOTICE AND LICENSE*
> *http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231*<http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231>
>
> This work (and included software, documentation such as READMEs, or other
> related items) is being provided by the copyright holders under the
> following license. By obtaining, using and/or copying this work, you (the
> licensee) agree that you have read, understood, and will comply with the
> following terms and conditions.
>
> Permission to copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
> documentation, with or without modification, for any purpose and without fee
> or royalty is hereby granted, provided that you include the following on ALL
> copies of the software and documentation or portions thereof, including
> modifications:
> 1. The full text of this NOTICE in a location viewable to users of
> the redistributed or derivative work.
> 2. Any pre-existing intellectual property disclaimers, notices, or
> terms and conditions. If none exist, the *W3C Software Short Notice*<http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-short-notice-20021231.html>should be included (hypertext is preferred, text is permitted) within the
> body of any redistributed or derivative code.
> 3. Notice of any changes or modifications to the files, including
> the date changes were made. (We recommend you provide URIs to the location
> from which the code is derived.)
>
> THIS SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS," AND COPYRIGHT HOLDERS
> MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT
> LIMITED TO, WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR
> PURPOSE OR THAT THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR DOCUMENTATION WILL NOT INFRINGE
> ANY THIRD PARTY PATENTS, COPYRIGHTS, TRADEMARKS OR OTHER RIGHTS.
>
> COPYRIGHT HOLDERS WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR
> CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR
> DOCUMENTATION.
>
> The name and trademarks of copyright holders may NOT be used in
> advertising or publicity pertaining to the software without specific,
> written prior permission. Title to copyright in this software and any
> associated documentation will at all times remain with copyright holders.
>
> ____________________________________
>
> This formulation of W3C's notice and license became active on December 31
> 2002. This version removes the copyright ownership notice such that this
> license can be used with materials other than those owned by the W3C,
> reflects that ERCIM is now a host of the W3C, includes references to this
> specific dated version of the license, and removes the ambiguous grant of
> "use". Otherwise, this version is the same as the *previous version*<http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-software-19980720>and is written so as to preserve the
> *Free Software Foundation's assessment of GPL compatibility*<http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses>and
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> .
>
>
> *Joseph Reagle <**...@w3.org>* <si...@w3.org>* *
>
> Last revised $Id: copyright-software-20021231.html,v 1.11 2004/07/06
> 16:02:49 slesch Exp $
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
>
> Arthur Ryman,
> IBM Software Group, Rational Division
>
> blog: http://ryman.eclipsedevelopersjournal.com/
> phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@fido.ca
>
>
> *"Jeremy Hughes" <hu...@apache.org>*
> Sent by: jpjhughes@gmail.com
>
> 10/19/2006 10:51 AM Please respond to
> woden-dev@ws.apache.org
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> To
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>
> Subject
> Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
> wsdl*xsd files)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
>
> Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
> to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
>
> IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
> to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
> has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
> the distribution.
>
> Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
> others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
> consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
> WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
>
> As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
> the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
> email to legal-discuss.
>
> Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
> to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
> many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
> directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
> source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
> allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
> legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
> files in our distribution.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
> [2]
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> To: hughesj@apache.org
>
>
> [
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
> ]
>
> Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
> --------------------------------------
>
> I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
> repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
> up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
> experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
> shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
> looking into this issue.
>
> > Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> > -----------------------
> >
> > Key: WODEN-64
> > URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> > Project: Woden
> > Issue Type: Improvement
> > Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> > Priority: Minor
> >
> > WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the
> URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> > wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd
> wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> > which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there
> is only one copy
>
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
Jeremy,
I just want to ensure we've got all our legal "i"s dotted and "t"s
crossed. I've had some trouble in the past (admittedly with Eclipse not
Apache) with including files in the repository or a distributed package.
These problems forced my project team to make some very last minute
changes to a release and clean up the content in our repository. I don't
want to repeat the experience. :)
Let's leave the files in the repository for now until Graham's enquiry to
Apache legal is answered. Once we know more we can choose an appropriate
course of action - if any action is necessary.
(BTW, I don't think there is a difference whether the files are in our
repository or bundled in a distribution as either way the files can be
obtained from Apache, which as I understand it means Apache is
redistributing them. Of course I'm not a lawyer I'm just going on my past
experience wrt using third party content in open source projects.)
Thanks,
Lawrence
"Jeremy Hughes" <hu...@apache.org>
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Subject
Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
the distribution.
Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
email to legal-discuss.
Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
files in our distribution.
Cheers,
Jeremy
[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
[2]
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
To: hughesj@apache.org
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
]
Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
--------------------------------------
I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
looking into this issue.
> Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> -----------------------
>
> Key: WODEN-64
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> Project: Woden
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> Priority: Minor
>
> WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the
URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd
wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there
is only one copy
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Re: Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
Posted by Arthur Ryman <ry...@ca.ibm.com>.
The W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas are licenced under the W3C Software Licence [1]
We are allowed to redistribute it. We just need to include the notice too.
Here is the text of the licence:
W3C® SOFTWARE NOTICE AND LICENSE
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
This work (and included software, documentation such as READMEs, or other
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including modifications:
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the redistributed or derivative work.
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terms and conditions. If none exist, the W3C Software Short Notice should
be included (hypertext is preferred, text is permitted) within the body of
any redistributed or derivative code.
3. Notice of any changes or modifications to the files, including the
date changes were made. (We recommend you provide URIs to the location
from which the code is derived.)
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license can be used with materials other than those owned by the W3C,
reflects that ERCIM is now a host of the W3C, includes references to this
specific dated version of the license, and removes the ambiguous grant of
"use". Otherwise, this version is the same as the previous version and is
written so as to preserve the Free Software Foundation's assessment of GPL
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Please see our Copyright FAQ for common questions about using materials
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Last revised $Id: copyright-software-20021231.html,v 1.11 2004/07/06
16:02:49 slesch Exp $
[1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-software-20021231
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Sent by: jpjhughes@gmail.com
10/19/2006 10:51 AM
Please respond to
woden-dev@ws.apache.org
To
woden-dev@ws.apache.org
cc
Subject
Inclusion of W3C (c) files (was: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple
wsdl*xsd files)
On the Monday telecon we discussed [1]:
Graham will investigate any Apache process that needs to be followed
to bundle the W3C WSDL 2.0 schemas with Woden.
IMHO redistributing the schemas in our milestone releases is different
to just including them in SVN for testing purposes. The wsdl schema
has actually been in SVN since Feb for this this purpose, but isn't in
the distribution.
Since Graham's patch included another copy of the wsdl schema (and
others) I committed it to where his patch had it rather that try to
consolidate with the one under the ant-tests directory. Hence JIRA
WODEN-64 to tidy this up.
As we agreed on the call, figuring out whether we're able to bundle
the schemas in Woden is the topic of Graham's (soon to be posted)
email to legal-discuss.
Do you have extra concerns? Do you think we should ask legal-discuss
to gain approval for putting W3C licensed files into SVN? There are
many instances of W3C licensed files e.g. [2] and others in that
directory. The files in the directory of [2] are also shipped in a
source form in Xerces. So I think there is plenty of precedent for
allowing these files in Apache SVN but it's good to check with
legal-discuss that we're doing the right thing w.r.t. bundling the
files in our distribution.
Cheers,
Jeremy
[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200610.mbox/%3cOF345FEA22.9FCD27EA-ON8525720A.0052C41F-8525720A.00581D37@ca.ibm.com%3e
[2]
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xml/commons/trunk/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Attr.java
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lawrence Mandel (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Date: Oct 19, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [jira] Commented: (WODEN-64) Multiple wsdl*xsd files
To: hughesj@apache.org
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64?page=comments#action_12443537
]
Lawrence Mandel commented on WODEN-64:
--------------------------------------
I'm a little surprised to hear that these files are in Woden's
repository. Although I'm no legal expert I think that we need to clear
up any legal hurdles to redistributing these files. (From past
experience at Eclipse, without permission to redistribute the files we
shouldn't even have them in our repository.) Graham is currently
looking into this issue.
> Multiple wsdl*xsd files
> -----------------------
>
> Key: WODEN-64
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WODEN-64
> Project: Woden
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Jeremy Hughes
> Priority: Minor
>
> WODEN-14 introduced some test cases for URI resolution (as well as the
URI resolution code itself). Included in those test cases are:
> wsdl20.xsd wsdl20-extensions.xsd wsdl20-http.xsd ws20-instance.xsd
wsdl20-rpc.xsd wsdl20-soap.xsd
> which are also in the ant-tests directory. We should refactor so there
is only one copy
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