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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> on 2011/06/04 04:17:00 UTC
Recuse as mentor?
Seems that some people are not happy with my outreach to the communties,
or whatever... There are plenty of suggestions and posts on things that
I have done wrong, or did not do, or did not due to someone's satisfaction.
If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed to
be fun and at least *somewhat* fulfilling...
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Re: Recuse as mentor?
Posted by Julien Vermillard <jv...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed to
>> be fun and at least *somewhat* fulfilling...
>
> I consider you an very important part of this process. Even when you
> have said something wrong or have made a wrong decision (i don't know
> one) you are still doing a great job. It is a very hot discussion with
> tons of e-mails and mistakes do happen. Others do their mistakes too.
>
> Speaking for myself, I am very glad you have this role and would
> kindly ask you to continue.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
+1
Nothing to add :)
Julien
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Re: Recuse as mentor?
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Jim,
To put it bluntly this project needs you. I say that because of both your attempts to engage here and the history I know you have.
It is impossible to mediate between two opposing positions without upsetting people. I'd be worried if you were showing a bias towards one or the position. You are not, IMHO.
As for the *one* email I've seen from you that really shouldn't have been sent I've also seen an immediate and complete apology. I've sent far worse emails in the past - I'm pleased to see you are human ;-)
Please continue
Ross
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
On 4 Jun 2011, at 08:31, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed to
>> be fun and at least *somewhat* fulfilling...
>
> I consider you an very important part of this process. Even when you
> have said something wrong or have made a wrong decision (i don't know
> one) you are still doing a great job. It is a very hot discussion with
> tons of e-mails and mistakes do happen. Others do their mistakes too.
>
> Speaking for myself, I am very glad you have this role and would
> kindly ask you to continue.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
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Re: Recuse as mentor?
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
> If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed to
> be fun and at least *somewhat* fulfilling...
I consider you an very important part of this process. Even when you
have said something wrong or have made a wrong decision (i don't know
one) you are still doing a great job. It is a very hot discussion with
tons of e-mails and mistakes do happen. Others do their mistakes too.
Speaking for myself, I am very glad you have this role and would
kindly ask you to continue.
Cheers
Christian
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Re: Recuse as mentor?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 6/3/2011 9:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Seems that some people are not happy with my outreach to the communties,
> or whatever... There are plenty of suggestions and posts on things that
> I have done wrong, or did not do, or did not due to someone's satisfaction.
>
> If people want, I will happily remove myself as mentor. This is supposed to
> be fun and at least *somewhat* fulfilling...
I found only one objection; throwing around insider jokes and taking people
to task for their external (knee jerk) comments that were based absolute
surprise at these developments.
I did see your apologies, so if you keep your own frustrations to a dull
roar, I see no reason for you to step down from mentoring this project.
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