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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by Chris Addington <cd...@cdadd.com> on 2018/03/10 14:24:45 UTC
PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728]
SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
1. file manager, address bar; (select): <user>/app data/roaming/open
office/4 -> rename user.old.
2. start openoff
3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user
folder. if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but
this way you keep your dictionary, templates.
can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing
problem.
but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting to
download
sincerely
Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:
>
> hi andrea
>
> i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by
> 'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)
>
> the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would
> NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.
>
> *i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other
> areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a
> responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their
> responsibilities.*
>
> what do i do?
>
> sincerely
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
> On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Dear Chris,
>> this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
>> https://s.apache.org/g4NG
>> and it will be fixed.
>>
>> You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard
>> support channels: answers are archived and available to all future
>> similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is
>> unsustainable.
>>
>> You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will
>> be unable to continue answering private mails due to time
>> constraints, but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix your
>> issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
>> Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:
>>> hi andrea
>>>
>>> the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug
>>> - yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing
>>> 4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks
>>> just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.
>>>
>>>
>>> but, NO WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> sincerelychris
>>>
>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:
>>>> hi andrea, bugzilla
>>>>
>>>> - i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded &
>>>> installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS
>>>>
>>>> you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this -
>>>> the forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to
>>>> find this.
>>>>
>>>> ????????????????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzilla@apache.org wrote:
>>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728
>>>>>
>>>>> oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> changed:
>>>>>
>>>>> What |Removed |Added
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728]
SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 11/03/18 5:17 AM, JD wrote:
> A better solution:
> do not create a an OpenOffice user profile. PERIOD.!!!!
> It is totally useless for the correct operation of OO.
>
And where are user settings stored when there is no user profile?
>
> On 03/10/2018 11:05 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Maurice Howe wrote:
>>> This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged
>>> to try
>>
>> I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve
>> it in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any
>> advice longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally
>> tried). And our solution is easy but not super-easy.
>>
>> I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:
>>
>> 1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to
>> something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile
>> under Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless
>> users. This can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice
>> committer is his personal space at apache.org.
>>
>> 2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a
>> possibly existing OpenOffice profile.
>>
>> 3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the
>> profile at the next restart of OpenOffice.
>>
>> There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption
>> happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a
>> clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from
>> OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.
>>
>> So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY
NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
Posted by JD <jd...@gmail.com>.
A better solution:
do not create a an OpenOffice user profile. PERIOD.!!!!
It is totally useless for the correct operation of OO.
On 03/10/2018 11:05 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Maurice Howe wrote:
>> This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged
>> to try
>
> I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve
> it in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any
> advice longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally
> tried). And our solution is easy but not super-easy.
>
> I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:
>
> 1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to
> something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile under
> Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless users.
> This can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice committer
> is his personal space at apache.org.
>
> 2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a possibly
> existing OpenOffice profile.
>
> 3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the profile
> at the next restart of OpenOffice.
>
> There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption
> happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a
> clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from
> OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.
>
> So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728]
SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Maurice Howe wrote:
> This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged to try
I concur this is an example of a user that, while he managed to solve it
in the end, is quite problematic, noisy, and won't follow any advice
longer than one line (even though he succeeded when he finally tried).
And our solution is easy but not super-easy.
I see three ways (two requiring OpenOffice development) to solve this:
1. An OpenOfficeProfileFixer.exe (so to say; I'm note referring to
something that exists) file that simply renames the user profile under
Windows. This will cover the large majority of the clueless users. This
can exist as a separate tool, hosted by an OpenOffice committer is his
personal space at apache.org.
2. An option to "start clean" at install time, that renames a possibly
existing OpenOffice profile.
3. A Tools - Reset default settings menu item that renames the profile
at the next restart of OpenOffice.
There is nothing to fix in the OpenOffice code. Profile corruption
happens due to many factors, but it is not linked to OpenOffice in a
clear way: it involves user profiles that are carried over from
OpenOffice 2.x or 3.x and may already be damaged but working.
So in the end one of the three options above is the best mitigation.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue 127728]
SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
Posted by Maurice Howe <ma...@gmail.com>.
This guy makes it indelibly clear why users are sometimes encouraged to try
LIBRE or ANYthing else.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Chris Addington <cd...@cdadd.com> wrote:
> 1. file manager, address bar; (select): <user>/app data/roaming/open
> office/4 -> rename user.old.
>
> 2. start openoff
>
> 3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user folder.
> if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but this way you
> keep your dictionary, templates.
>
> can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing
> problem.
>
> but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting to
> download
>
> sincerely
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>
> On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:
>
>>
>> hi andrea
>>
>> i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by
>> 'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)
>>
>> the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i would
>> NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.
>>
>> *i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other areas)
>> - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a
>> responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their
>> responsibilities.*
>>
>> what do i do?
>>
>> sincerely
>>
>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>> On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
>>> https://s.apache.org/g4NG
>>> and it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard
>>> support channels: answers are archived and available to all future similar
>>> cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is unsustainable.
>>>
>>> You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will be
>>> unable to continue answering private mails due to time constraints, but I'm
>>> confident that the procedure above will fix your issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>
>>> Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> hi andrea
>>>>
>>>> the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this bug -
>>>> yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading & installing 4.1.5 *- i
>>>> had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for some weeks just to
>>>> avoid/minimise another install-headache.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but, NO WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sincerelychris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi andrea, bugzilla
>>>>>
>>>>> - i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded & installed
>>>>> 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS
>>>>>
>>>>> you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this - the
>>>>> forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where to find this.
>>>>>
>>>>> ????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzilla@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> changed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What |Removed |Added
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
spellheck again Re: PROBLEM SOLVED Re: problem remains Re: [Issue
127728] SPELLCHECK/DICTIONARY NOT WORKING AFTER UPDATE INSTALL to 4.1.5
Posted by Chris Addington <cd...@cdadd.com>.
good morning
i have just set up new laptop & installed openoffice & copying wordbook
& template files as below
i have noticed that whilst using a template document that spellcheck
worked ok, but when i used a 'new' document (top left of toolbar) then
spellcheck does not work
-> ????????
regardschris
Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
On 10/03/2018 14:24, Chris Addington wrote:
>
> 1. file manager, address bar; (select): <user>/app data/roaming/open
> office/4 -> rename user.old.
>
> 2. start openoff
>
> 3. fm user.old - copy 'wordbook', 'template'; paste into new user
> folder. if you copy all the folders you wind up with same problem, but
> this way you keep your dictionary, templates.
>
> can also get techs to find out by elimination which folder is causing
> problem.
>
> but, this does not alleviate responsibility to WARN people attempting
> to download
>
> sincerely
>
> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
> On 10/03/2018 13:50, Chris Addington wrote:
>>
>> hi andrea
>>
>> i tried that - doesn't work (but not sure what is meant by
>> 'quickstarter', what is it? where is it? close it? how?)
>>
>> the point is that the bug was KNOWN - had a WARNING been given i
>> would NOT have installed - and i would not now be 3 days behind on work.
>>
>> *i appreciate you are volunteers - i am a volunteer also (in other
>> areas) - i do NOT get paid - BUT, BUT, BUT - volunteers still have a
>> responsibility to inform correctly - oxfam etc. ignore their
>> responsibilities.*
>>
>> what do i do?
>>
>> sincerely
>>
>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>> On 10/03/2018 13:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> this is not an OpenOffice bug, but a Windows bug. Do as advised at
>>> https://s.apache.org/g4NG
>>> and it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> You can now understand why we strongly prefer to use the standard
>>> support channels: answers are archived and available to all future
>>> similar cases. We are all volunteers and personal support is
>>> unsustainable.
>>>
>>> You have been referred multiple times to the public channels. I will
>>> be unable to continue answering private mails due to time
>>> constraints, but I'm confident that the procedure above will fix
>>> your issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>>>
>>> Il 10/03/2018 12:12, Chris Addington ha scritto:
>>>> hi andrea
>>>>
>>>> the other key point is that *it is was KNOWN that there was this
>>>> bug - yet there was NO WARNING given against downloading &
>>>> installing 4.1.5 *- i had purposefully delayed installing 4.1.5 for
>>>> some weeks just to avoid/minimise another install-headache.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but, NO WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sincerelychris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2018 11:39, Chris Addington wrote:
>>>>> hi andrea, bugzilla
>>>>>
>>>>> - i received the mail below saying 'resolved' - downloaded &
>>>>> installed 4.1.5 again - PROBLEM REMAINS
>>>>>
>>>>> you also won't explain 'user profile' - where do i change this -
>>>>> the forum simply references 'user profile' but doesn't say where
>>>>> to find this.
>>>>>
>>>>> ????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2018 10:37, bugzilla@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127728
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> changed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What |Removed |Added
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>