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Membership in Industry Organizations?

Hi all,

I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now.
Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit.

In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol.

The ones I am talking about are:

  *   OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year
  *   EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
  *   ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year

The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software.
The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers.
The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols.

Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)?
Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation)


Chris

Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Kevin,

sure ... actually informing the Board was the first thing I did as I thought that's where it belonged and I was asked to bring it here.
But happy to open legal tickets for each agreement. That was the information I was looking for ;-)

Chris


Am 03.12.19, 14:38 schrieb "Mark Thomas" <ma...@apache.org>:

    On 03/12/2019 13:25, Christofer Dutz wrote:
    > Ok ... 
    > 
    > So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf of the ASF.
    
    If the are agreements to agree to, I'd *strongly* recommend you get them
    reviewed by the legal committee before signing them.
    
    I'd give board@ a heads-up and time to comment first.
    
    Mark
    
    > 
    > Chris
    > 
    > 
    > Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
    > 
    >     Hi all,
    >     
    >     I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now.
    >     Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit.
    >     
    >     In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol.
    >     
    >     The ones I am talking about are:
    >     
    >       *   OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year
    >       *   EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
    >       *   ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
    >     
    >     The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software.
    >     The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers.
    >     The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols.
    >     
    >     Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)?
    >     Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation)
    >     
    >     
    >     Chris
    >     
    > 
    > 
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Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 03/12/2019 13:25, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Ok ... 
> 
> So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf of the ASF.

If the are agreements to agree to, I'd *strongly* recommend you get them
reviewed by the legal committee before signing them.

I'd give board@ a heads-up and time to comment first.

Mark

> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
> 
>     Hi all,
>     
>     I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now.
>     Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit.
>     
>     In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol.
>     
>     The ones I am talking about are:
>     
>       *   OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year
>       *   EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
>       *   ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
>     
>     The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software.
>     The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers.
>     The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols.
>     
>     Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)?
>     Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation)
>     
>     
>     Chris
>     
> 
> 
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Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Ok ... 

So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf of the ASF.

Chris


Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:

    Hi all,
    
    I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now.
    Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit.
    
    In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol.
    
    The ones I am talking about are:
    
      *   OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year
      *   EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
      *   ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year
    
    The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software.
    The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers.
    The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols.
    
    Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)?
    Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation)
    
    
    Chris
    


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