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Proposal
I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure, so
i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
code should be incubated?
I have not shared sources as of yet.
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:34 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch>.
Hi,
Le ven. 20 mai 2022 à 00:33, m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to
> github if i understand correctly?...
You can do that, and if you have plans to join the ASF later it's
useful to take a look at [1] and ideally shape your emerging community
along these lines.
And also look at [2] as mentioned earlier, which is more specifically
about the ASF Incubator.
-Bertrand
[1] https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
[2] https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
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Re: Proposal
Posted by m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>.
Cool.
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 3:37 PM Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> yep... pretty much
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to
> github if i understand correctly?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 3:22 PM Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> if you widen your focus from the chatbot to a more opened approach
> >> (e.g. Artificial Intelligence transformations, etc... ) you would
> >> have a better chance of building community... on that case your
> >> Leonardo da Vinci could be part of the bigger scope project as an
> >> example of an implementation, while you develop a framework for such
> >> things?
> >>
> >>
> >> If you actually do anything related ao AI, it would be a cool
> >> subject... I dunno if there are also other communities already doing
> >> something similar, on which case you could also aggregate to an alread
> >> existing project.
> >>
> >> I'm in no way a warlord.. just as Daniel said, one member of the
> >> community.... and I just wanted to bring you my 2 cents on a way to
> >> go with your project.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:05 AM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
> >> > chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
> sure, so
> >> > i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if
> the
> >> > code should be incubated?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have not shared sources as of yet.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:34 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Test 1
> >> > >
> >> > > 2
> >> > >
> >> > > 3
> >> > >
> >> > > 4
> >> > >
> >> > > 5
> >> > >
> >> > > 6
> >> > >
> >> > > 7
> >> > >
> >> > > 8
> >> > >
> >> > > 9
> >> > >
> >> > > 0
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Clebert Suconic
>
>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic
>
Re: Proposal
Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
yep... pretty much
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to github if i understand correctly?
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 3:22 PM Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> if you widen your focus from the chatbot to a more opened approach
>> (e.g. Artificial Intelligence transformations, etc... ) you would
>> have a better chance of building community... on that case your
>> Leonardo da Vinci could be part of the bigger scope project as an
>> example of an implementation, while you develop a framework for such
>> things?
>>
>>
>> If you actually do anything related ao AI, it would be a cool
>> subject... I dunno if there are also other communities already doing
>> something similar, on which case you could also aggregate to an alread
>> existing project.
>>
>> I'm in no way a warlord.. just as Daniel said, one member of the
>> community.... and I just wanted to bring you my 2 cents on a way to
>> go with your project.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:05 AM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
>> > chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure, so
>> > i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
>> > code should be incubated?
>> >
>> >
>> > I have not shared sources as of yet.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:34 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Test 1
>> > >
>> > > 2
>> > >
>> > > 3
>> > >
>> > > 4
>> > >
>> > > 5
>> > >
>> > > 6
>> > >
>> > > 7
>> > >
>> > > 8
>> > >
>> > > 9
>> > >
>> > > 0
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clebert Suconic
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Re: Proposal
Posted by m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>.
And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to
github if i understand correctly?
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 3:22 PM Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> if you widen your focus from the chatbot to a more opened approach
> (e.g. Artificial Intelligence transformations, etc... ) you would
> have a better chance of building community... on that case your
> Leonardo da Vinci could be part of the bigger scope project as an
> example of an implementation, while you develop a framework for such
> things?
>
>
> If you actually do anything related ao AI, it would be a cool
> subject... I dunno if there are also other communities already doing
> something similar, on which case you could also aggregate to an alread
> existing project.
>
> I'm in no way a warlord.. just as Daniel said, one member of the
> community.... and I just wanted to bring you my 2 cents on a way to
> go with your project.
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:05 AM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
> > chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure,
> so
> > i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
> > code should be incubated?
> >
> >
> > I have not shared sources as of yet.
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:34 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Test 1
> > >
> > > 2
> > >
> > > 3
> > >
> > > 4
> > >
> > > 5
> > >
> > > 6
> > >
> > > 7
> > >
> > > 8
> > >
> > > 9
> > >
> > > 0
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic
>
Re: Proposal
Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
if you widen your focus from the chatbot to a more opened approach
(e.g. Artificial Intelligence transformations, etc... ) you would
have a better chance of building community... on that case your
Leonardo da Vinci could be part of the bigger scope project as an
example of an implementation, while you develop a framework for such
things?
If you actually do anything related ao AI, it would be a cool
subject... I dunno if there are also other communities already doing
something similar, on which case you could also aggregate to an alread
existing project.
I'm in no way a warlord.. just as Daniel said, one member of the
community.... and I just wanted to bring you my 2 cents on a way to
go with your project.
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:05 AM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure, so
> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
> code should be incubated?
>
>
> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:34 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Test 1
> >
> > 2
> >
> > 3
> >
> > 4
> >
> > 5
> >
> > 6
> >
> > 7
> >
> > 8
> >
> > 9
> >
> > 0
> >
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Re: Proposal
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
I agree, but I think we need to give some more concrete guidance how to
develop an open community and develop in the open, because although it
is clear to ASF people, I think it is often not so clear for many other
people
@msacks: Did you already have a look at
https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ ?
HTH
Michael
Am 17.05.22 um 07:56 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Develop an open community and develop in the open. If the community starts to grow then come back and ask for guidance in how to make your open source community an ASF community.
>
> Did I mention open and community enough?
>
> All the best,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2022, at 10:47 PM, m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure if this made it:
>> Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
>>
>> Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
>> useful application first?
>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things
>>> exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords,
>>> generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
>>>
>>> Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have
>>> got code, not "we".
>>>
>>> You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
>>> community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
>>>
>>> So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
>>> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
>>> sure, so
>>> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
>>> code should be incubated?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
Develop an open community and develop in the open. If the community starts to grow then come back and ask for guidance in how to make your open source community an ASF community.
Did I mention open and community enough?
All the best,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2022, at 10:47 PM, m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure if this made it:
> Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
>
> Sure.
>
> Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
>
> Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
> useful application first?
>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things
>> exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords,
>> generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
>>
>> Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have
>> got code, not "we".
>>
>> You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
>> community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
>>
>> So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
>> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
>> sure, so
>> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
>> code should be incubated?
>>
>>
>> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Proposal
Posted by m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>.
Ftr: Open source is comprised partially of many “private” teams while
adhering to ASF open source standards.
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:59 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking only for myself, I’ll say I am interested in the open source
> software model and am not interested in participating in any private group.
>
>
>
> Additionally, GPT3 is a closed source model with the only “free” part
> being a public-facing API, with usage primarily benefiting one company.
>
>
>
> I would expect you might get more interest in building a product around
> GPT-J [1], which is an Apache License 2.0 product. But I also expect most
> people on this list would like to see what is proposed and discussed in the
> open.
>
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/kingoflolz/mesh-transformer-jax/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:58 PM
> *To: *Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com>, <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Proposal
>
>
>
> So I’m not sure if this made it either: is there at least one person
> interested in collaborating on this project it involves GPT three?
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:47 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure if this made it:
>
> Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
>
>
>
> Sure.
>
>
>
> Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
>
>
>
> Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
> useful application first?
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things
> exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords,
> generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
>
> Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have
> got code, not "we".
>
> You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
> community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
>
> So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
> it.
>
>
> On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
> sure, so
> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
> code should be incubated?
>
>
> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>
>
>
Re: Proposal
Posted by Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com>.
Speaking only for myself, I’ll say I am interested in the open source software model and am not interested in participating in any private group.
Additionally, GPT3 is a closed source model with the only “free” part being a public-facing API, with usage primarily benefiting one company.
I would expect you might get more interest in building a product around GPT-J [1], which is an Apache License 2.0 product. But I also expect most people on this list would like to see what is proposed and discussed in the open.
[1] https://github.com/kingoflolz/mesh-transformer-jax/
From: m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:58 PM
To: Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com>, <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal
So I’m not sure if this made it either: is there at least one person interested in collaborating on this project it involves GPT three?
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:47 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure if this made it:
Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
Sure.
Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a useful application first?
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords, generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have got code, not "we".
You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing it.
On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure, so
i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
code should be incubated?
I have not shared sources as of yet.
Re: Proposal
Posted by m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>.
So I’m not sure if this made it either: is there at least one person
interested in collaborating on this project it involves GPT three?
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:47 PM m sacks <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure if this made it:
> Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
>
> Sure.
>
> Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
>
> Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
> useful application first?
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things
>> exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords,
>> generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
>>
>> Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I"
>> have got code, not "we".
>>
>> You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
>> community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
>>
>> So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
>> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
>> sure, so
>> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if
>> the
>> code should be incubated?
>>
>>
>> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Proposal
Posted by m sacks <ms...@gmail.com>.
Not sure if this made it:
Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.
Sure.
Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.
Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
useful application first?
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things
> exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords,
> generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
>
> Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have
> got code, not "we".
>
> You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
> community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
>
> So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
> it.
>
>
> On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
> chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
> sure, so
> i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
> code should be incubated?
>
>
> I have not shared sources as of yet.
>
>
>
>
Re: Proposal
Posted by Daniel Widdis <wi...@gmail.com>.
I'm not an ASF warlord or general. In fact, I don't think such things exist. It's about community. Decisions are made by communities. Warlords, generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.
Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have got code, not "we".
You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.
So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing it.
On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks" <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not sure, so
i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
code should be incubated?
I have not shared sources as of yet.
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