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Rendering PDImageXObject
I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
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Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by John Hewson <jo...@jahewson.com>.
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 08:15, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
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> When I create a PDF page and draw the image onto the page without any scaling applied to the image, it is drawn at the DPI of the tiff, 200 DPI in most instances. Later when I retrieve the PDFs and encounter a PDF page has a image drawn on to it I won't know what DPI was used to drawn the image on the page if it didn’t come from one of my applications. When I render the image using defaults it is rendered at 72 DPI which is the PDF default. So if the iamge was original drawn at 200 DPI it would look larger than it really is. No problem for screen viewing but a big problem for filming where space is at finite.
Ok, to recap: you’re extracting an image which is drawn on a PDF page and you’re wanting to know the size of the image relative to the page. The embedded image itself is at a high resolution, so is much bigger than the page if drawn without the appropriate scale.
First of all, if your images are full page sized then you can simply render the page with PDFBox at your chosen DPI and use the resulting image instead.
Otherwise, you’ll need to obtain the current transform matrix (CTM) which is being used at the point that the image is drawn. If you look at the ExtractImages example which ships with PDFBox, then in the drawImages override you can add the following line to fetch this:
Matrix ctm = getGraphicsState().getCurrentTransformationMatrix();
That matrix contains the scaling for the image, as well as any rotation and skew. For x and y scalling, you want getScalingFactorX() and getScalingFactorY().
Hope that helps,
— John
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> Ok, that makes sense. Which part are you having a problem with?
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> — John
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>> On 12 Aug 2015, at 07:31, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
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>> I'm doing both. I provide a service that takes tiff files from one of the various processes we use to generate official documents and converts them to PDFs so they can be stored in a document management system. Then for archival purposes I have to take selected documents from the document management system and convert them back to tiff so they will run through the software/hardware that converts them to microfilm for a disaster recovery policy requirement.
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>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:11 PM
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>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 08:19, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
>>
>> I’m confused, you said you were converting TIFFs to PDF but now you mention PDF pages from external sources? Are you reading the PDFs or writing them? Did you mean that the TFF images come from an external source?
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>> — John
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>>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
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>>>> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
>>>
>>> double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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RE: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by "Kirk, Kenneth" <Kk...@ILSOS.NET>.
When I create a PDF page and draw the image onto the page without any scaling applied to the image, it is drawn at the DPI of the tiff, 200 DPI in most instances. Later when I retrieve the PDFs and encounter a PDF page has a image drawn on to it I won't know what DPI was used to drawn the image on the page if it didn’t come from one of my applications. When I render the image using defaults it is rendered at 72 DPI which is the PDF default. So if the iamge was original drawn at 200 DPI it would look larger than it really is. No problem for screen viewing but a big problem for filming where space is at finite.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:24 PM
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Ok, that makes sense. Which part are you having a problem with?
— John
> On 12 Aug 2015, at 07:31, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> I'm doing both. I provide a service that takes tiff files from one of the various processes we use to generate official documents and converts them to PDFs so they can be stored in a document management system. Then for archival purposes I have to take selected documents from the document management system and convert them back to tiff so they will run through the software/hardware that converts them to microfilm for a disaster recovery policy requirement.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
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>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 08:19, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>
>> John
>>
>> How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
>
> I’m confused, you said you were converting TIFFs to PDF but now you mention PDF pages from external sources? Are you reading the PDFs or writing them? Did you mean that the TFF images come from an external source?
>
> — John
>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:38 PM
>> To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
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>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>>>
>>
>> You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
>>
>> double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by John Hewson <jo...@jahewson.com>.
Ok, that makes sense. Which part are you having a problem with?
— John
> On 12 Aug 2015, at 07:31, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> I'm doing both. I provide a service that takes tiff files from one of the various processes we use to generate official documents and converts them to PDFs so they can be stored in a document management system. Then for archival purposes I have to take selected documents from the document management system and convert them back to tiff so they will run through the software/hardware that converts them to microfilm for a disaster recovery policy requirement.
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
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>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 08:19, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>
>> John
>>
>> How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
>
> I’m confused, you said you were converting TIFFs to PDF but now you mention PDF pages from external sources? Are you reading the PDFs or writing them? Did you mean that the TFF images come from an external source?
>
> — John
>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:38 PM
>> To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
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>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>>>
>>
>> You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
>>
>> double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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RE: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by "Kirk, Kenneth" <Kk...@ILSOS.NET>.
I'm doing both. I provide a service that takes tiff files from one of the various processes we use to generate official documents and converts them to PDFs so they can be stored in a document management system. Then for archival purposes I have to take selected documents from the document management system and convert them back to tiff so they will run through the software/hardware that converts them to microfilm for a disaster recovery policy requirement.
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From: John Hewson [mailto:john@jahewson.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:11 PM
To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
> On 11 Aug 2015, at 08:19, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> John
>
> How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
I’m confused, you said you were converting TIFFs to PDF but now you mention PDF pages from external sources? Are you reading the PDFs or writing them? Did you mean that the TFF images come from an external source?
— John
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> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
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>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>>
>> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>>
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> You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
>
> double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by John Hewson <jo...@jahewson.com>.
> On 11 Aug 2015, at 08:19, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> John
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> How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
I’m confused, you said you were converting TIFFs to PDF but now you mention PDF pages from external sources? Are you reading the PDFs or writing them? Did you mean that the TFF images come from an external source?
— John
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>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
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>> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>>
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> You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
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> double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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RE: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by "Kirk, Kenneth" <Kk...@ILSOS.NET>.
John
How would I know what DPI the image was drawn with? Some of the PDF pages come from source outside of my control but I have to extract them just the same.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:38 PM
To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
Subject: Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>
You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
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Re: Rendering PDImageXObject
Posted by John Hewson <jo...@jahewson.com>.
> On 10 Aug 2015, at 05:58, Kirk, Kenneth <Kk...@ILSOS.NET> wrote:
>
> I have a situation that maybe someone has already solved in a more efficient manner. When converting a tiff image to PDF I use the drawImage method of the PDPageContentStream. The tiff image has a resolution of 200 DPI which is 1700x2200. When PDFRenderer renders this image from the resulting PDF page it does so at the PDF default of 72 DPI which logically translates to page 23 inches by 30 inches when applied to the original iamge size of 1700x2200. Since I don't know after the fact what DPI a image object on PDF page was drawn at I came up with down scaling the image at PDF creation time to 72 DPI. I'm sure there must a better way one of you computer science PHDs have come up with.
>
You can draw the image with a scale of 72 / 200, in other words:
double dpi = 200; // you’ll want to fetch this from the tiff
content.drawImage(image, x, y, image.getWidth() * 72 / dpi, image.getHeight() * 72 / dpi;
— John
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