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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Anjib Mulepati <an...@hotmail.com> on 2012/02/17 17:10:13 UTC
Tomcat as Application Server
Hi All,
I was reading an old article
(http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2008/jw-01-tomcat6.html?page=1) about
Tomcat to find out whether Tomcat can be used as application serve or
not. This article list that Tomcat 6.x support following features:
·WAR file deployment
·JNDI resources
·JDBC data sources
·JSP support
·Session replication
·Virtual hosting support
·Clustering support
·JMX-based management and monitoring
·Asynchronous HTTP request handling via Comet
·Thread pool sharing
·Non-blocking connectors
·Servlet 2.5 and
·JSP 2.1
Where as lack for following:
·Distributed transactions
·EJBs and
·JMS
For that reason it can't be used as full application server. Is there
any feature I missed in either side.
And main question Is Tomcat application server? If no why?
Thanks
Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by "Terence M. Bandoian" <te...@tmbsw.com>.
On 1:59 PM, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was reading an old article
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2008/jw-01-tomcat6.html?page=1)
> about Tomcat to find out whether Tomcat can be used as application
> serve or not. This article list that Tomcat 6.x support following
> features:
>
> ·WAR file deployment
>
> ·JNDI resources
>
> ·JDBC data sources
>
> ·JSP support
>
> ·Session replication
>
> ·Virtual hosting support
>
> ·Clustering support
>
> ·JMX-based management and monitoring
>
> ·Asynchronous HTTP request handling via Comet
>
> ·Thread pool sharing
>
> ·Non-blocking connectors
>
> ·Servlet 2.5 and
>
> ·JSP 2.1
>
> Where as lack for following:
>
> ·Distributed transactions
>
> ·EJBs and
>
> ·JMS
>
> For that reason it can't be used as full application server. Is there
> any feature I missed in either side.
>
> And main question Is Tomcat application server? If no why?
>
> Thanks
Hi, Anjib-
I agree with a previous post, Tomcat is a server which executes
applications with extensive support for web applications.
-Terence Bandoian
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RE: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by Sanjeev Sharma <sa...@buchanan-edwards.com>.
The term "Application Server" predates JEE and EJB. I would call Tomcat an App server since it "processes server-side business logic" (i.e. you don't need EJBs to process business logic and it's sometimes a bad idea anyway.)
Sanjeev
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On 17/02/2012 16:43, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Anjib Mulepati [mailto:anjibcs@hotmail.com]
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat as Application Server
>
>> So can I say Tomcat is Web Server but doesn't not support as full
>> application Server?
>
> That rather depends on to whom you want to say it. Again, Tomcat is a servlet container (as defined in the Java EE specs), which is more than adequate to run many applications. Whether or not it's an appropriate server for the job you want to do depends on what exactly you want to do - which you haven't told us.
>
> (Why does this line of questioning sound suspiciously like a homework
> project?)
(Or trolling.)
Tomcat is not a full JEE server, as stated above.
The definition of 'Application Server' is not 'Full JEE Server' unless you drink Oracle juice for breakfast.
I have and do run applications on Tomcat, which is a server.
All of which amounts to a semantic "so what?".
p
> - Chuck
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Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by Pid <pi...@pidster.com>.
On 17/02/2012 16:43, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Anjib Mulepati [mailto:anjibcs@hotmail.com]
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat as Application Server
>
>> So can I say Tomcat is Web Server but doesn't not support as full
>> application Server?
>
> That rather depends on to whom you want to say it. Again, Tomcat is a servlet container (as defined in the Java EE specs), which is more than adequate to run many applications. Whether or not it's an appropriate server for the job you want to do depends on what exactly you want to do - which you haven't told us.
>
> (Why does this line of questioning sound suspiciously like a homework project?)
(Or trolling.)
Tomcat is not a full JEE server, as stated above.
The definition of 'Application Server' is not 'Full JEE Server' unless
you drink Oracle juice for breakfast.
I have and do run applications on Tomcat, which is a server.
All of which amounts to a semantic "so what?".
p
> - Chuck
>
>
> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
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RE: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>.
> From: Anjib Mulepati [mailto:anjibcs@hotmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Tomcat as Application Server
> So can I say Tomcat is Web Server but doesn't not support as full
> application Server?
That rather depends on to whom you want to say it. Again, Tomcat is a servlet container (as defined in the Java EE specs), which is more than adequate to run many applications. Whether or not it's an appropriate server for the job you want to do depends on what exactly you want to do - which you haven't told us.
(Why does this line of questioning sound suspiciously like a homework project?)
- Chuck
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Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by David kerber <dc...@verizon.net>.
On 2/17/2012 11:32 AM, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
> So can I say Tomcat is Web Server but doesn't not support as full
> application Server?
It's a LOT more than just a web server, but it doesn't have full EJB
support. It may well be enough of an application server (in the more
general definition of application) for what you need.
>
> On 2/17/2012 11:20 AM, David kerber wrote:
>> On 2/17/2012 11:10 AM, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was reading an old article
>>> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2008/jw-01-tomcat6.html?page=1)
>>> about
>>> Tomcat to find out whether Tomcat can be used as application serve or
>>> not. This article list that Tomcat 6.x support following features:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Where as lack for following:
>>>
>>> ·Distributed transactions
>>>
>>> ·EJBs and
>>>
>>> ·JMS
>>>
>>> For that reason it can't be used as full application server. Is there
>>> any feature I missed in either side.
>>>
>>> And main question Is Tomcat application server? If no why?
>>
>> The way you're using the term, no. Tomcat is a servlet engine, with
>> some very limited support for ejb's. Look at JBoss if you need full
>> EJB support. Keep in mind that servlets and standard java code can do
>> an awful lot, so you may not need full EJB support.
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Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by Anjib Mulepati <an...@hotmail.com>.
So can I say Tomcat is Web Server but doesn't not support as full
application Server?
On 2/17/2012 11:20 AM, David kerber wrote:
> On 2/17/2012 11:10 AM, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was reading an old article
>> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2008/jw-01-tomcat6.html?page=1)
>> about
>> Tomcat to find out whether Tomcat can be used as application serve or
>> not. This article list that Tomcat 6.x support following features:
>
> ...
>
>> Where as lack for following:
>>
>> ·Distributed transactions
>>
>> ·EJBs and
>>
>> ·JMS
>>
>> For that reason it can't be used as full application server. Is there
>> any feature I missed in either side.
>>
>> And main question Is Tomcat application server? If no why?
>
> The way you're using the term, no. Tomcat is a servlet engine, with
> some very limited support for ejb's. Look at JBoss if you need full
> EJB support. Keep in mind that servlets and standard java code can do
> an awful lot, so you may not need full EJB support.
>
>
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Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by David kerber <dc...@verizon.net>.
On 2/17/2012 11:10 AM, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was reading an old article
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2008/jw-01-tomcat6.html?page=1) about
> Tomcat to find out whether Tomcat can be used as application serve or
> not. This article list that Tomcat 6.x support following features:
...
> Where as lack for following:
>
> ·Distributed transactions
>
> ·EJBs and
>
> ·JMS
>
> For that reason it can't be used as full application server. Is there
> any feature I missed in either side.
>
> And main question Is Tomcat application server? If no why?
The way you're using the term, no. Tomcat is a servlet engine, with
some very limited support for ejb's. Look at JBoss if you need full EJB
support. Keep in mind that servlets and standard java code can do an
awful lot, so you may not need full EJB support.
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Re: Tomcat as Application Server
Posted by Daniel Mikusa <dm...@vmware.com>.
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 08:10 -0800, Anjib Mulepati wrote:
<snip>
>
> Where as lack for following:
>
> ·Distributed transactions
You can use a third-party transaction manager like Bitronix or Atomikos
if you need distributed transaction support.
>
> ·EJBs and
>
> ·JMS
Again, you can use a third-party JMS provider like ActiveMQ if you need
this support.
Dan