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Merges as a feature
Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
seen anything about that here, but just checking.
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
You have the power
Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
TACO?
I'm hungry now :-p
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well finding it in the docs is/was.
> This functionality is depended on by Visual Studio TACO so I don't think it
> is going anywhere soon.
>
>
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah I don't think documentation is a problem. :)
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Merges doc is here:
>> https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/edge/guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Command-Line%20Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform
>>>
>>>
>>> - Carlos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
>>>> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
>>>>
>>>> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs that
>>>> explains the full use and value of this feature because currently it
>> just
>>>> sounds like technical debt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>> risingj.com
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
>>>>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
>>>>> might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
>>>>> asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
>>>>> Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
>>>>> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious on why an open ended question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
>>>>> With not other context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions
>> -
>>>>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
>>>>>>> it may be just fine for many use cases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or
>>>>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby,
>> etc)
>>>>> or running custom build from hooks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <
>> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use
>>>>> merges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>>>>>>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder
>> in
>>>>> their cordova templates.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not
>>>>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <
>> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
>>>>> "Feature"
>>>>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
>>>>> achieving this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>>>>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
>>>>> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nikhil
I think I owe you an answer for a question you posted, on how mfp
handles this
In regards to MFP in the latest version (Aug2015). Now we have a two way of
creating hybrid apps.
In the new way "MFP Cordova Apps" the directory structure is the same as a
standard cordova directory structure, our default template doesn't create
the "merges", user can create the merges folder and it will work since we
use the cordova-cli as the engine. User can also provide a template that
could have the merges and any files, and this another way of getting the
merges folder created.
This is strategy moving forward, mfp is a component of the user's Cordova
App, so mfp doesn't constraints or dictates how user should manage their
web app files.
For the other type of hybrid apps, we have a more prescriptive directory
structure (take into account that this was establish before cordova 3.x and
cordova project structure existed)
user will have a "common" folder (similar to www)
then it will have a folder per platform/environment "iphone", "android",
etc..
then inside the this "iphone" user will place files to merge into built
"www". The thing is the merge worked differently based on the type of
file/extension.
For .js and .css, it is append to the same filename in common if exist, if
it doesn't exist then is a simple copy
For other file types (.html, images, etc..) it replaces the file if it
exist in common, if it doesn't exist then is a simple copy
--Carlos
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:24 AM Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal
> <ni...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I sort of agree with Raymond that is a useful functionality and is easy
> enough to do this for users - by using a 'convention'. Customizing the
> build system using hooks sounds more complicated for the developer. How
> does ionic & mfp actually achieve this? How does a developer specify
> specific versions of files that need to be included only on certain
> platforms.
> >
> > -Nikhil
> >
>
> Here are the Ionic docs for the same idea:
> http://ionicframework.com/docs/platform-customization/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal
<ni...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> I sort of agree with Raymond that is a useful functionality and is easy enough to do this for users - by using a 'convention'. Customizing the build system using hooks sounds more complicated for the developer. How does ionic & mfp actually achieve this? How does a developer specify specific versions of files that need to be included only on certain platforms.
>
> -Nikhil
>
Here are the Ionic docs for the same idea:
http://ionicframework.com/docs/platform-customization/
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RE: Merges as a feature
Posted by Nikhil Khandelwal <ni...@microsoft.com>.
I sort of agree with Raymond that is a useful functionality and is easy enough to do this for users - by using a 'convention'. Customizing the build system using hooks sounds more complicated for the developer. How does ionic & mfp actually achieve this? How does a developer specify specific versions of files that need to be included only on certain platforms.
-Nikhil
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:18 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Merges as a feature
Well finding it in the docs is/was.
This functionality is depended on by Visual Studio TACO so I don't think it is going anywhere soon.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yeah I don't think documentation is a problem. :)
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Merges doc is here:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordo
> va.apache.org%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fguide_cli_index.md.html%23The%2520C
> ommand-Line%2520Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform&data
> =01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c7f9065b097754dab6e3608d2b31b4271
> %7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=%2f2FhMxoCI4p5BF1l22FIPv
> Wt3jA0%2fECQfsW9iIAmpbA%3d
> >
> >
> > - Carlos
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
> >> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
> >>
> >> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs
> >> that explains the full use and value of this feature because
> >> currently it
> just
> >> sounds like technical debt.
> >>
> >>
> >> My team is hiring!
> >> @purplecabbage
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data
> >> =01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c7f9065b097754dab6e3608d2b31b4
> >> 271%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LaeCiYKqEmUrtyvFWi
> >> bxgtMPzi52MfNI5rJHHotD0sc%3d
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden
> >> <raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
> >>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought
> >>> it might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I
> >>> was asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the
> >>> Powers that Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana
> >>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
> >>> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just curious on why an open ended question?
> >>>>
> >>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
> >>> With not other context.
> >>>>
> >>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
> >>>>
> >>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Carlos
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden
> >>>>> <ra...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful
> >>>>> solutions
> -
> >>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The
> >>>>> simplicity of it may be just fine for many use cases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks
> >>>>>> or
> >>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl,
> >>> ruby,
> etc)
> >>> or running custom build from hooks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to
> >>>>>>>> use
> >>> merges.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default It will not go
> >>>>>>>> away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder
> in
> >>> their cordova templates.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time
> >>>>>>>> will not
> >>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
> >>> "Feature"
> >>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >>> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
> >>> achieving this.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges More advance users
> >>>>>>>>>> can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
> >>> etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
> >>> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away?
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>> haven't
> >>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>
> ======================================================================
> =====
> >>>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Well finding it in the docs is/was.
This functionality is depended on by Visual Studio TACO so I don't think it
is going anywhere soon.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yeah I don't think documentation is a problem. :)
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Merges doc is here:
> https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/edge/guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Command-Line%20Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform
> >
> >
> > - Carlos
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
> >> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
> >>
> >> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs that
> >> explains the full use and value of this feature because currently it
> just
> >> sounds like technical debt.
> >>
> >>
> >> My team is hiring!
> >> @purplecabbage
> >> risingj.com
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
> >>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
> >>> might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
> >>> asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
> >>> Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
> >>> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just curious on why an open ended question?
> >>>>
> >>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
> >>> With not other context.
> >>>>
> >>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
> >>>>
> >>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Carlos
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions
> -
> >>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
> >>>>> it may be just fine for many use cases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or
> >>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby,
> etc)
> >>> or running custom build from hooks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use
> >>> merges.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
> >>>>>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder
> in
> >>> their cordova templates.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not
> >>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcamden@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
> >>> "Feature"
> >>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >>> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
> >>> achieving this.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
> >>>>>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
> >>> etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
> >>> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I
> >>> haven't
> >>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>
> ===========================================================================
> >>>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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> >>>>>>>>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
Yeah I don't think documentation is a problem. :)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Merges doc is here: https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/edge/guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Command-Line%20Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform
>
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
>> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
>>
>> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs that
>> explains the full use and value of this feature because currently it just
>> sounds like technical debt.
>>
>>
>> My team is hiring!
>> @purplecabbage
>> risingj.com
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
>>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
>>> might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
>>> asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
>>> Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
>>> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
>>>>
>>>> Just curious on why an open ended question?
>>>>
>>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
>>> With not other context.
>>>>
>>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
>>>>
>>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
>>>>
>>>> - Carlos
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
>>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
>>>>> it may be just fine for many use cases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or
>>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc)
>>> or running custom build from hooks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use
>>> merges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>>>>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in
>>> their cordova templates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not
>>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
>>> "Feature"
>>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
>>> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
>>> achieving this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
>>> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I
>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Merges doc is here: https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/edge/guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Command-Line%20Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
>
> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs that
> explains the full use and value of this feature because currently it just
> sounds like technical debt.
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
>> might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
>> asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
>> Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
>> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
>>>
>>> Just curious on why an open ended question?
>>>
>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
>> With not other context.
>>>
>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
>>>
>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
>>>
>>> - Carlos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
>>>>
>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
>>>> it may be just fine for many use cases.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or
>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc)
>> or running custom build from hooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use
>> merges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>>>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in
>> their cordova templates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not
>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
>> "Feature"
>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
>> achieving this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
>> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I
>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>> ===========================================================================
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up.
We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd.
I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs that
explains the full use and value of this feature because currently it just
sounds like technical debt.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
> might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
> asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
> Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges.
> Which is the use case for visual studio template.
> >
> > Just curious on why an open ended question?
> >
> > It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?"
> With not other context.
> >
> > What prompted you to ask a the random question?
> >
> > Did someone told you that merges is going away?
> >
> > - Carlos
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
> >>
> >> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
> >> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
> >> it may be just fine for many use cases.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or
> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc)
> or running custom build from hooks.
> >>>
> >>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
> >>>
> >>> - Carlos
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use
> merges.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
> >>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in
> their cordova templates.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not
> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a
> "Feature"
> >>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of
> achieving this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
> >>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp,
> etc.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Carlos
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I
> haven't
> >>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> ===========================================================================
> >>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
> >>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> ===========================================================================
> >>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>>>
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> ===========================================================================
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> >>>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic.
They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought it
might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I was
asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the Powers that
Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges. Which is the use case for visual studio template.
>
> Just curious on why an open ended question?
>
> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?" With not other context.
>
> What prompted you to ask a the random question?
>
> Did someone told you that merges is going away?
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
>>
>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
>> it may be just fine for many use cases.
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc) or running custom build from hooks.
>>>
>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>>>
>>> - Carlos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
>>>>>
>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>>>
>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges. Which is the use case for visual studio template.
Just curious on why an open ended question?
It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?" With not other context.
What prompted you to ask a the random question?
Did someone told you that merges is going away?
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
>
> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
> it may be just fine for many use cases.
>
>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc) or running custom build from hooks.
>>
>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>>
>> - Carlos
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
>>>>
>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>>
>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
>>>>
>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Carlos
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>
>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :)
I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful solutions -
but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The simplicity of
it may be just fine for many use cases.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc) or running custom build from hooks.
>
> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
>>>
>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>>
>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
>>>
>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>>
>>>
>>> - Carlos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>>>>
>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carlos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ===========================================================================
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>>>>
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>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks or custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, ruby, etc) or running custom build from hooks.
There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges.
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
>>
>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>>
>> cordova create doesn't create it by default
>> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
>>
>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>>
>>
>> - Carlos
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>>>
>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>>>
>>>> - Carlos
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>
>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ===========================================================================
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>>>
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>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
>
> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
>
> cordova create doesn't create it by default
> It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
>
> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
>
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>>
>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>>
>>> - Carlos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>
>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ===========================================================================
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>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to use merges.
The feature works today if you create a folder "merges"
cordova create doesn't create it by default
It will not go away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder in their cordova templates.
It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time will not be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature
- Carlos
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> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>>
>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
>> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>>
>> - Carlos
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a "Feature"
(capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
>
> In cordova you can use hooks and merges
> More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
>> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>>
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Re: Merges as a feature
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of achieving this.
In cordova you can use hooks and merges
More advance users can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, etc.
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? I haven't
> seen anything about that here, but just checking.
>
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