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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by The Web Maestro <th...@gmail.com> on 2008/03/01 09:01:56 UTC
Re: Next release - when?
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Vincent Hennebert
<vi...@anyware-tech.com> wrote:
> Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > Looks good, Clay. Please commit it to Trunk. I'll take it from there and
> > make sure we can incorporate this in the 0.95 release. I'll also see
> > about switching to Forrest Trunk so we can use FOP 0.94/0.95 for the
> > PDFs.
It's in there...
> > On 29.02.2008 08:34:00 The Web Maestro wrote:
> >> Howdy Folks,
> >>
> >> I've got an update to the FOP web site for the 0.95 release:
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~clay/fop_refactored_0.95/
>
> This is already looking better ;-)
>
> >> It's not too different from before, except for the 'Using FOP 0.95' &
> >> 'FOP 0.95 Features' menus in the nav for the Home tab, and I've
>
> I'm not sure those entries should be added to the Home tab. Basically
> they duplicate what's in the 0.95 tab, so that will add to the confusion
> IMO. The Home tab should remain dedicated to general informations about
> the project. What do others think?
I removed those links in the nav, and instead replaced them with a
link to a new Quick Start guide.
> Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
> not, I will ;-)
Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
<extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
<extra-css>
.menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
</extra-css>
I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
works.
--
Regards,
The Web Maestro
--
<th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
- HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
I don't see a need to change that. I'll concentrate on the actual
contents to get the release out of the door.
On 03.03.2008 06:43:11 The Web Maestro wrote:
> I was thinking about updating the tabs to be more meaningful. Here's
> what we currently have:
>
> * Home
> * Version 0.93
> * Version 0.94
> * FOP Trunk
> * Development
>
> And I"m thinking about changing that to:
> * Home
> * FOP Previous Release (0.93)
> * FOP Stable Release 0.94
> * FOP Trunk
> * Development
>
> We could go the 'Versioned Docs' tab route a la Forrest like this:
>
> * Home
> * Versioned Docs
> o Version 0.93
> o Version 0.94
> * FOP Trunk
> * Development
>
> It would be fairly easy to do, and it doesn't require Forrest:Views
> but I'm not a big fan of it myself. Then again I believe the new Quick
> Start Guide will be a big help.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Regards,
>
> The Web Maestro
> --
> <th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
> - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Jeremias Maerki
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by The Web Maestro <th...@gmail.com>.
I was thinking about updating the tabs to be more meaningful. Here's
what we currently have:
* Home
* Version 0.93
* Version 0.94
* FOP Trunk
* Development
And I"m thinking about changing that to:
* Home
* FOP Previous Release (0.93)
* FOP Stable Release 0.94
* FOP Trunk
* Development
We could go the 'Versioned Docs' tab route a la Forrest like this:
* Home
* Versioned Docs
o Version 0.93
o Version 0.94
* FOP Trunk
* Development
It would be fairly easy to do, and it doesn't require Forrest:Views
but I'm not a big fan of it myself. Then again I believe the new Quick
Start Guide will be a big help.
Any comments?
Regards,
The Web Maestro
--
<th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
- HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by The Web Maestro <th...@gmail.com>.
> > > > I removed those links in the nav, and instead replaced them with a
> > > > link to a new Quick Start guide.
> > >
> > > Only that Quick Start Guide is missing!?!
> >
> > No...
>
> Are you really sure? http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=632558&view=rev
D'oh! I'd `svn add`d it, but I wasn't using an svn co with https, so I
had to 'fix' it:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=632716
> > I added a new file called 'Quick Start Guide' for the Home
> > navigation. At present, the Quick Start Guide merely has links to the
> > important Newbie stuff (mostly what I copied to the Nav from 0.95:
> > Download, Build, Configure; as well as what you can do with FOP:
> > graphics, embedding, servlets, etc.). My intention is to turn it into
> > a 'real' Quick Start Guide.
> >
> > > > > Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
> > > > > not, I will ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
> > > > <extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
> > > >
> > > > <extra-css>
> > > > .menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
> > > > </extra-css>
> > > >
> > > > I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
> > > > change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
> > > > works.
> >
> > Did you get the .menuitemgroup CSS to work?
>
> Haven't tried it, yet. I will later today.
Cool!
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Regards,
The Web Maestro
--
<th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
- HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
On 02.03.2008 06:01:08 The Web Maestro wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote:
> > Thanks, Clay! I've already fixed most problems locally. There's a
> > problem with Forrest 0.8 and trunk concerning compliance.pdf. I've
> > already submitted a patch [1] against Forrest Trunk to fix this (plus
> > some other improvements). The "knownissues-overview" problem is for
> > tomorrow. I'll upload the changes when everything is working. The new
> > PDFs will look quite nice when this is finished. Except for the missing
> > auto-table-layout support, of course. :-(
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1072
> <snip/>
> > > I removed those links in the nav, and instead replaced them with a
> > > link to a new Quick Start guide.
> >
> > Only that Quick Start Guide is missing!?!
>
> No...
Are you really sure? http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=632558&view=rev
> I added a new file called 'Quick Start Guide' for the Home
> navigation. At present, the Quick Start Guide merely has links to the
> important Newbie stuff (mostly what I copied to the Nav from 0.95:
> Download, Build, Configure; as well as what you can do with FOP:
> graphics, embedding, servlets, etc.). My intention is to turn it into
> a 'real' Quick Start Guide.
>
> > > > Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
> > > > not, I will ;-)
> > >
> > > Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
> > > <extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
> > >
> > > <extra-css>
> > > .menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
> > > </extra-css>
> > >
> > > I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
> > > change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
> > > works.
>
> Did you get the .menuitemgroup CSS to work?
Haven't tried it, yet. I will later today.
> Regards,
>
> The Web Maestro
> --
> <th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
> - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Jeremias Maerki
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by The Web Maestro <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote:
> Thanks, Clay! I've already fixed most problems locally. There's a
> problem with Forrest 0.8 and trunk concerning compliance.pdf. I've
> already submitted a patch [1] against Forrest Trunk to fix this (plus
> some other improvements). The "knownissues-overview" problem is for
> tomorrow. I'll upload the changes when everything is working. The new
> PDFs will look quite nice when this is finished. Except for the missing
> auto-table-layout support, of course. :-(
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1072
<snip/>
> > I removed those links in the nav, and instead replaced them with a
> > link to a new Quick Start guide.
>
> Only that Quick Start Guide is missing!?!
No... I added a new file called 'Quick Start Guide' for the Home
navigation. At present, the Quick Start Guide merely has links to the
important Newbie stuff (mostly what I copied to the Nav from 0.95:
Download, Build, Configure; as well as what you can do with FOP:
graphics, embedding, servlets, etc.). My intention is to turn it into
a 'real' Quick Start Guide.
> > > Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
> > > not, I will ;-)
> >
> > Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
> > <extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
> >
> > <extra-css>
> > .menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
> > </extra-css>
> >
> > I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
> > change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
> > works.
Did you get the .menuitemgroup CSS to work?
Regards,
The Web Maestro
--
<th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
- HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Updating to a newer Forrest (was: Next release - when?)
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
On 01.03.2008 09:01:56 The Web Maestro wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Vincent Hennebert
> <vi...@anyware-tech.com> wrote:
> > Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > > Looks good, Clay. Please commit it to Trunk. I'll take it from there and
> > > make sure we can incorporate this in the 0.95 release. I'll also see
> > > about switching to Forrest Trunk so we can use FOP 0.94/0.95 for the
> > > PDFs.
>
> It's in there...
Thanks, Clay! I've already fixed most problems locally. There's a
problem with Forrest 0.8 and trunk concerning compliance.pdf. I've
already submitted a patch [1] against Forrest Trunk to fix this (plus
some other improvements). The "knownissues-overview" problem is for
tomorrow. I'll upload the changes when everything is working. The new
PDFs will look quite nice when this is finished. Except for the missing
auto-table-layout support, of course. :-(
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1072
> > > On 29.02.2008 08:34:00 The Web Maestro wrote:
> > >> Howdy Folks,
> > >>
> > >> I've got an update to the FOP web site for the 0.95 release:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~clay/fop_refactored_0.95/
> >
> > This is already looking better ;-)
> >
> > >> It's not too different from before, except for the 'Using FOP 0.95' &
> > >> 'FOP 0.95 Features' menus in the nav for the Home tab, and I've
> >
> > I'm not sure those entries should be added to the Home tab. Basically
> > they duplicate what's in the 0.95 tab, so that will add to the confusion
> > IMO. The Home tab should remain dedicated to general informations about
> > the project. What do others think?
>
> I removed those links in the nav, and instead replaced them with a
> link to a new Quick Start guide.
Only that Quick Start Guide is missing!?!
> > Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
> > not, I will ;-)
>
> Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
> <extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
>
> <extra-css>
> .menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
> </extra-css>
>
> I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
> change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
> works.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> The Web Maestro
> --
> <th...@gmail.com> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/>
> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
> - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Jeremias Maerki
Re: Next release - when?
Posted by Andreas Delmelle <an...@telenet.be>.
On Mar 1, 2008, at 09:01, The Web Maestro wrote:
Hi
Just noticed this:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Vincent Hennebert
>
>> Also, have you looked at disabling the menu auto-rolling feature? If
>> not, I will ;-)
>
> Fixing that should be as easy as adding this to the bottom of the
> <extra-css> block in src/documentation/skinconf.xml:
>
> <extra-css>
> .menuitemgroup{ display: block;}
> </extra-css>
>
> I just added a change to skinconf.xml in svn. Unfortunately, the
> change did not show in my local build. Nevertheless that's how Forrest
> works.
That would make all the nodes expanded by default, but if I interpret
Vincent correctly, it's not /that/ simple...? :/
Just checked a few other projects' sites and the 'annoying' behavior
mentioned earlier is also present there, most notably also Forrest's
own homepage.
BTW: Checking the HTML and JavaScript source, I don't see any sign of
something session-persistent. The structure is relatively simple: if
you switch to tab B, then the browser will be redirected to a new
page, forgetting what the state of the menu on tab A was. Switching
back to A means reloading the page corresponding to the first tab
from scratch.
It could turn out to be not too much effort to add, I guess.
Unfortunately, I'm not fluent in Forrest, so I have no idea how far a
user can go in terms of embedding custom scripts. If they do not
already have something for this, I may just know enough HTML/
JavaScript to hack this together, and if it works well on our end,
donate it back to Forrest one day. Right now, I know little more than
how to generate the site. I know roughly what the resulting pieces of
script should look like, and how the generated HTML should be
modified, but not enough Forrest-related configuration details to
know /where/ to make those changes...
Cheers
Andreas