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[jira] Created: (LEGAL-29) Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees

Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees 
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                 Key: LEGAL-29
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29
             Project: Legal Discuss
          Issue Type: Task
            Reporter: Stefano Bagnara


Here here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/ we have "V.P., Legal Affairs    Sam Ruby".
There is no other information about the committee.

Discussing with Robert Burrell Donking about the process to create/alter ASF policies here is his sentence:
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members appoints and oversees the board. the board appoints committees from the membership to deal day to day with some matters. in this case, the policy is set by infrastructure and legal-affairs committers. changing policy means lobbying these committees who will then consider proposals and take them to the membership. i'm a member and on the legal-affairs committee but IIRC i haven't spoken with that hat on in this forum.
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The www.apache.org does not have big references to this "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees and what they are their duties and member list.

I think this stuff should be public and documented (maybe I didn't find it). I'm not able to propose text and places for this, because even if I am a PMC committer I don't have this knowledge.

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-29) Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees

Posted by "Stefano Bagnara (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12606728#action_12606728 ] 

Stefano Bagnara commented on LEGAL-29:
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Robert pointed me to /committers/board/committee-info.txt in the private repository.
It contains member lists for "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees. 

Maybe there is no need to make the list public (there is not such list for Projects PMC, too), but at least to have a description of what is their role and what are their duties it would help.

> Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-29
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Stefano Bagnara
>
> Here here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/ we have "V.P., Legal Affairs    Sam Ruby".
> There is no other information about the committee.
> Discussing with Robert Burrell Donking about the process to create/alter ASF policies here is his sentence:
> ----------
> members appoints and oversees the board. the board appoints committees from the membership to deal day to day with some matters. in this case, the policy is set by infrastructure and legal-affairs committers. changing policy means lobbying these committees who will then consider proposals and take them to the membership. i'm a member and on the legal-affairs committee but IIRC i haven't spoken with that hat on in this forum.
> ----------
> The www.apache.org does not have big references to this "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees and what they are their duties and member list.
> I think this stuff should be public and documented (maybe I didn't find it). I'm not able to propose text and places for this, because even if I am a PMC committer I don't have this knowledge.

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-29) Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees

Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12606841#action_12606841 ] 

Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-29:
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http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html

Search for "Legal", starting from the bottom.  This will point you to the board meeting minutes where the VP was first appointed, the committee was formed and its charter, and to each case where the membership was adjusted.

I'm *not* closing this issue or suggesting that this information need not be made more accessible, but merely pointing out where the public information can be found today.

> Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-29
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Stefano Bagnara
>
> Here here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/ we have "V.P., Legal Affairs    Sam Ruby".
> There is no other information about the committee.
> Discussing with Robert Burrell Donking about the process to create/alter ASF policies here is his sentence:
> ----------
> members appoints and oversees the board. the board appoints committees from the membership to deal day to day with some matters. in this case, the policy is set by infrastructure and legal-affairs committers. changing policy means lobbying these committees who will then consider proposals and take them to the membership. i'm a member and on the legal-affairs committee but IIRC i haven't spoken with that hat on in this forum.
> ----------
> The www.apache.org does not have big references to this "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees and what they are their duties and member list.
> I think this stuff should be public and documented (maybe I didn't find it). I'm not able to propose text and places for this, because even if I am a PMC committer I don't have this knowledge.

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[jira] Updated: (LEGAL-29) Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees

Posted by "Stefano Bagnara (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Stefano Bagnara updated LEGAL-29:
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    Attachment: LEGAL-29.diff

Here we are with a first patch to better document the existence of a Legal Affair Committee and its role.

Here is a list of changes included in the patch:
- added "Legal Affairs" to the main "Foundation Projects" menu (the /legal  folder was not linked from the main menu)
- changed the legal "home" title to "ASF Legal Affairs Home Page"
- added a description of its role (derived by the board minutes)
- removed news (they was 2006 news and their content was already in the  "Legal Policies, Forms, and Information for Apache Committers" paragraph)
- added a "Get in touch" section.

Here is a generated preview:
http://people.apache.org/~bago/asf-site/legal/


> Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-29
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Stefano Bagnara
>         Attachments: LEGAL-29.diff
>
>
> Here here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/ we have "V.P., Legal Affairs    Sam Ruby".
> There is no other information about the committee.
> Discussing with Robert Burrell Donking about the process to create/alter ASF policies here is his sentence:
> ----------
> members appoints and oversees the board. the board appoints committees from the membership to deal day to day with some matters. in this case, the policy is set by infrastructure and legal-affairs committers. changing policy means lobbying these committees who will then consider proposals and take them to the membership. i'm a member and on the legal-affairs committee but IIRC i haven't spoken with that hat on in this forum.
> ----------
> The www.apache.org does not have big references to this "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees and what they are their duties and member list.
> I think this stuff should be public and documented (maybe I didn't find it). I'm not able to propose text and places for this, because even if I am a PMC committer I don't have this knowledge.

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[jira] Closed: (LEGAL-29) Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees

Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Henri Yandell closed LEGAL-29.
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    Resolution: Fixed

Patch applied.

> Document "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-29
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-29
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Stefano Bagnara
>         Attachments: LEGAL-29.diff
>
>
> Here here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/ we have "V.P., Legal Affairs    Sam Ruby".
> There is no other information about the committee.
> Discussing with Robert Burrell Donking about the process to create/alter ASF policies here is his sentence:
> ----------
> members appoints and oversees the board. the board appoints committees from the membership to deal day to day with some matters. in this case, the policy is set by infrastructure and legal-affairs committers. changing policy means lobbying these committees who will then consider proposals and take them to the membership. i'm a member and on the legal-affairs committee but IIRC i haven't spoken with that hat on in this forum.
> ----------
> The www.apache.org does not have big references to this "Legal Affairs" and "Infrastructure" committees and what they are their duties and member list.
> I think this stuff should be public and documented (maybe I didn't find it). I'm not able to propose text and places for this, because even if I am a PMC committer I don't have this knowledge.

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