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Mixing ver 2.x and 3.x

I have a production systemthat's been running 2.x forever.  Pretty much 
stable with no real problems. I don't have the time, nor do I want to 
take the risk at this point to even think about doing a complete 
conversion to 3.  And technically, it's still in beta, correct?  But I 
desperately need an IMAP server for a couple of situations.  So a few 
questions...

1) James 3.x does support IMAP, correct

2) Is James 3.x / IMAP stable enough to use, assuming I accept the 
typicalbeta-code risks?

3) Would you foresee any issues if I install 3.x in the same box with my 
production 2.x assuming I attach 3.x to a completely different IP address?

Thanks.

Jerry



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Re: Mixing ver 2.x and 3.x

Posted by Jerry M <te...@malcolms.com>.
I'm trying to get back to this project of installing a parallel v3.x 
JAMES on my server.  I do have multiple IP addresses available.  So I'm 
going to head down that path.

I've been digging through the config docs for v2 trying to find where I 
restrict JAMES to only listen on a single IP address. I'm apparently 
failing at the search terms I'm entering in google to find this.  Can 
someone help me out?  Is there a global config parm for v2 that tells 
JAMES to only listen on IP xx.xx.xx.xx as opposed to (I assume)  the 
default IP *.*.*.*? If not global, do I add a tag to each protocol 
processor individually?  And then finally, does it work the same way in 
v3.x?  Or is the configuration different in 3?

Thanks for the help.

Jerry

On 1/30/2013 12:36 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
>
> If your host has two interfaces (Ethernet connection), it will work. 
> But if your host has only one interface, you won't be able to bind the 
> same port to two different ip@.
>
> Thx, Eric
>
> On 29/01/2013 20:51, Jerry M wrote:
>> Thanks for the info, Eric.
>>
>> I lost you on the port statement.  If I'm using port 25, 110, etc on two
>> completely different IP addresses for v2.x and v3.x, and there are still
>> conflicts, I'm missing something.  Granted, I have to configure each
>> installation not to look at the default 'all' IP addresses and restrict
>> v2 to listen on only 1 IP address and v3 to listen only on the other IP
>> address.  Are you saying that there will still be port conflicts?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/2013 9:57 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/01/2013 15:52, Jerry M wrote:
>>>> I have a production systemthat's been running 2.x forever.  Pretty 
>>>> much
>>>> stable with no real problems. I don't have the time, nor do I want to
>>>> take the risk at this point to even think about doing a complete
>>>> conversion to 3.  And technically, it's still in beta, correct? But I
>>>> desperately need an IMAP server for a couple of situations. So a few
>>>> questions...
>>>>
>>>> 1) James 3.x does support IMAP, correct
>>>
>>> Correct
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Is James 3.x / IMAP stable enough to use, assuming I accept the
>>>> typicalbeta-code risks?
>>>
>>> It all depends on your requirements and user expectations.
>>> If you read the mailing list, the biggest issues so far are related to
>>> thread (spool, remote delivery) not working at a certain time.
>>>
>>> Just give it a try...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3) Would you foresee any issues if I install 3.x in the same box 
>>>> with my
>>>> production 2.x assuming I attach 3.x to a completely different IP
>>>> address?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You will have issues if both james use the same ports.
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Mixing ver 2.x and 3.x

Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.
Hi Jerry,

If your host has two interfaces (Ethernet connection), it will work. But 
if your host has only one interface, you won't be able to bind the same 
port to two different ip@.

Thx, Eric

On 29/01/2013 20:51, Jerry M wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Eric.
>
> I lost you on the port statement.  If I'm using port 25, 110, etc on two
> completely different IP addresses for v2.x and v3.x, and there are still
> conflicts, I'm missing something.  Granted, I have to configure each
> installation not to look at the default 'all' IP addresses and restrict
> v2 to listen on only 1 IP address and v3 to listen only on the other IP
> address.  Are you saying that there will still be port conflicts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On 1/29/2013 9:57 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 29/01/2013 15:52, Jerry M wrote:
>>> I have a production systemthat's been running 2.x forever.  Pretty much
>>> stable with no real problems. I don't have the time, nor do I want to
>>> take the risk at this point to even think about doing a complete
>>> conversion to 3.  And technically, it's still in beta, correct? But I
>>> desperately need an IMAP server for a couple of situations.  So a few
>>> questions...
>>>
>>> 1) James 3.x does support IMAP, correct
>>
>> Correct
>>
>>>
>>> 2) Is James 3.x / IMAP stable enough to use, assuming I accept the
>>> typicalbeta-code risks?
>>
>> It all depends on your requirements and user expectations.
>> If you read the mailing list, the biggest issues so far are related to
>> thread (spool, remote delivery) not working at a certain time.
>>
>> Just give it a try...
>>
>>>
>>> 3) Would you foresee any issues if I install 3.x in the same box with my
>>> production 2.x assuming I attach 3.x to a completely different IP
>>> address?
>>>
>>
>> You will have issues if both james use the same ports.
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Mixing ver 2.x and 3.x

Posted by Jerry M <te...@malcolms.com>.
Thanks for the info, Eric.

I lost you on the port statement.  If I'm using port 25, 110, etc on two 
completely different IP addresses for v2.x and v3.x, and there are still 
conflicts, I'm missing something.  Granted, I have to configure each 
installation not to look at the default 'all' IP addresses and restrict 
v2 to listen on only 1 IP address and v3 to listen only on the other IP 
address.  Are you saying that there will still be port conflicts?

Thanks.

Jerry


On 1/29/2013 9:57 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
>
>
> On 29/01/2013 15:52, Jerry M wrote:
>> I have a production systemthat's been running 2.x forever.  Pretty much
>> stable with no real problems. I don't have the time, nor do I want to
>> take the risk at this point to even think about doing a complete
>> conversion to 3.  And technically, it's still in beta, correct? But I
>> desperately need an IMAP server for a couple of situations.  So a few
>> questions...
>>
>> 1) James 3.x does support IMAP, correct
>
> Correct
>
>>
>> 2) Is James 3.x / IMAP stable enough to use, assuming I accept the
>> typicalbeta-code risks?
>
> It all depends on your requirements and user expectations.
> If you read the mailing list, the biggest issues so far are related to 
> thread (spool, remote delivery) not working at a certain time.
>
> Just give it a try...
>
>>
>> 3) Would you foresee any issues if I install 3.x in the same box with my
>> production 2.x assuming I attach 3.x to a completely different IP 
>> address?
>>
>
> You will have issues if both james use the same ports.
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Mixing ver 2.x and 3.x

Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.

On 29/01/2013 15:52, Jerry M wrote:
> I have a production systemthat's been running 2.x forever.  Pretty much
> stable with no real problems. I don't have the time, nor do I want to
> take the risk at this point to even think about doing a complete
> conversion to 3.  And technically, it's still in beta, correct?  But I
> desperately need an IMAP server for a couple of situations.  So a few
> questions...
>
> 1) James 3.x does support IMAP, correct

Correct

>
> 2) Is James 3.x / IMAP stable enough to use, assuming I accept the
> typicalbeta-code risks?

It all depends on your requirements and user expectations.
If you read the mailing list, the biggest issues so far are related to 
thread (spool, remote delivery) not working at a certain time.

Just give it a try...

>
> 3) Would you foresee any issues if I install 3.x in the same box with my
> production 2.x assuming I attach 3.x to a completely different IP address?
>

You will have issues if both james use the same ports.

> Thanks.
>
> Jerry
>
>
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