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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> on 2012/10/12 18:45:21 UTC
There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the main
openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the part
that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead of
using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb is
in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
the AOO logo.
Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non important...
what do you think?
Regards
Ricardo
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 12, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hi Ricardo;
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>
> ...
>>
>> 2012/10/12 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
>>>> copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the
>>> main
>>>> openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the
>>> part
>>>> that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but
>> instead
>>> of
>>>> using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The
>> openSUSE's orb
>>> is
>>>> in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based
>> on
>>>> the AOO logo.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something
>> non
>>> important...
>>>> what do you think?
>>>
>>> This is clearly a trademark issue and trademarks@a.o should be informed
>>> with a precise description on how the issue appears.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>> More details. Looking at the openSUSE installer DVD, under
>>
>> suse/setup/slide
>>
>> directory you have two folders: "pic" with several icons and
>> "txt" the
>> slide text. The problematic "pic" is 05_office.png
>>
>> I uploaded the image and the rtf file with the text for that slide here:
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/orb-logo-opensuse.zip
>>
>> During install I've seen it just for a second (coming back to the computer
>> with a coffee...) and then it seemed to me more similar our orb logo than
>> it actually is, but it is clearly based on the same idea.
>>
>> If we agree that the picture is an issue I can try to send the email to
>> trademarks
>>
>
> I looked at the image. It certainly looks like an issue for trademarks.
I agree.
> Do they carry a misleading symlink to openoffice in their package ?
Is the DVD from OpenSUSE or one of their distributors?
Regards,
Dave
>
>
> Pedro.
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
Hi Ricardo;
----- Original Message -----
> From: RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>
...
>
> 2012/10/12 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote:
>>
>> > Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
>> > copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the
>> main
>> > openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the
>> part
>> > that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but
> instead
>> of
>> > using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The
> openSUSE's orb
>> is
>> > in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based
> on
>> > the AOO logo.
>> >
>> > Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something
> non
>> important...
>> > what do you think?
>>
>> This is clearly a trademark issue and trademarks@a.o should be informed
>> with a precise description on how the issue appears.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>
> More details. Looking at the openSUSE installer DVD, under
>
> suse/setup/slide
>
> directory you have two folders: "pic" with several icons and
> "txt" the
> slide text. The problematic "pic" is 05_office.png
>
> I uploaded the image and the rtf file with the text for that slide here:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/orb-logo-opensuse.zip
>
> During install I've seen it just for a second (coming back to the computer
> with a coffee...) and then it seemed to me more similar our orb logo than
> it actually is, but it is clearly based on the same idea.
>
> If we agree that the picture is an issue I can try to send the email to
> trademarks
>
I looked at the image. It certainly looks like an issue for trademarks.
Do they carry a misleading symlink to openoffice in their package ?
Pedro.
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/12 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
> > copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the
> main
> > openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the
> part
> > that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead
> of
> > using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb
> is
> > in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
> > the AOO logo.
> >
> > Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non
> important...
> > what do you think?
>
> This is clearly a trademark issue and trademarks@a.o should be informed
> with a precise description on how the issue appears.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
More details. Looking at the openSUSE installer DVD, under
suse/setup/slide
directory you have two folders: "pic" with several icons and "txt" the
slide text. The problematic "pic" is 05_office.png
I uploaded the image and the rtf file with the text for that slide here:
https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/orb-logo-opensuse.zip
During install I've seen it just for a second (coming back to the computer
with a coffee...) and then it seemed to me more similar our orb logo than
it actually is, but it is clearly based on the same idea.
If we agree that the picture is an issue I can try to send the email to
trademarks
Regards
Ricardo
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Ricardo
>
>
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:45 AM, RGB ES wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
> copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the main
> openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the part
> that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead of
> using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb is
> in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
> the AOO logo.
>
> Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non important...
> what do you think?
This is clearly a trademark issue and trademarks@a.o should be informed with a precise description on how the issue appears.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/15 RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>
> 2012/10/15 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
>> > copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the
>> main
>> > openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the
>> part
>> > that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead
>> of
>> > using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's
>> orb is
>> > in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
>> > the AOO logo.
>> >
>> > Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non
>> important...
>> > what do you think?
>> >
>>
>> If you want, you can enter an issue in BZ for this. We have a
>> category for trademark issues:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=trademark
>>
>> This is useful for tracking. It also allows the subset of the
>> volunteers who are interested and knowledgeable about trademarks to
>> deal with it, even if they are not available during the time that the
>> email thread is active.
>>
>
> Oh! I did not think about BZ... [me slapping my forehead]
>
> Here it is now: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121217
>
The issue I filled on the openSUSE's bugzilla is now marked as "resolved -
fixed":
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785389
Regards
Ricardo
>
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> > Regards
>> > Ricardo
>>
>
>
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/15 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
> > copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the
> main
> > openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the
> part
> > that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead
> of
> > using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb
> is
> > in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
> > the AOO logo.
> >
> > Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non
> important...
> > what do you think?
> >
>
> If you want, you can enter an issue in BZ for this. We have a
> category for trademark issues:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=trademark
>
> This is useful for tracking. It also allows the subset of the
> volunteers who are interested and knowledgeable about trademarks to
> deal with it, even if they are not available during the time that the
> email thread is active.
>
Oh! I did not think about BZ... [me slapping my forehead]
Here it is now: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121217
Regards
Ricardo
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Rob
>
> > Regards
> > Ricardo
>
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
> copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the main
> openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the part
> that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead of
> using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb is
> in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
> the AOO logo.
>
> Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non important...
> what do you think?
>
If you want, you can enter an issue in BZ for this. We have a
category for trademark issues:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=trademark
This is useful for tracking. It also allows the subset of the
volunteers who are interested and knowledgeable about trademarks to
deal with it, even if they are not available during the time that the
email thread is active.
Thanks,
-Rob
> Regards
> Ricardo
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...The dark side of open source?
>
> Don
Yea, that description clearly sounds like Novell to me... Go-OO
openoffice fork, Mono .Net clone, Silverlight clone, MSFT patents
agreements and all... <VBG>
2006 - Microsoft and Novell Collaboration Announcement
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/exec/steve/2006/11-02novellinterop.aspx
2008 Go-OO, a lighter OO.o fork
http://ostatic.com/blog/go-oo-a-lighter-faster-openoffice-with-extras
2010 - Microsoft Purchasing 882 Novell Patents
http://www.pcworld.com/article/211366/microsoft_purchasing_882_novell_patents.html
FC
--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
Re: There is an "orb logo with gulls" on openSUSE installer
Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
"The openSUSE's orb is
in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
the AOO logo."
...The dark side of open source?
Don
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded my system to openSUSE 12.2. The installer, when
> copying packages to the hard drive offer a slide show to highlight the main
> openSUSE characteristics. What caught my eye on this slide show is the part
> that talk about the office suite: openSUSE distribute LibO, but instead of
> using the TDF logo you can see an orb with two gulls. The openSUSE's orb is
> in a darker blue and the gulls are not white, but it is clearly based on
> the AOO logo.
>
> Not sure if this is this a "trademark issue" or something non important...
> what do you think?
>
> Regards
> Ricardo