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Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Hi list,
I am a little uncertain about whether I need Apache Cocoon or FOP. I am
not very familiar with these kind of tools, but I really want to learn. I
will explain what I want to create, and then I hope I will get some
pointers to get going.
I want to create an web archive of articles. The content will be static. I
have decided to store the articles in static XML files instead of using a
database. The main presentation form is an Atom feed; containing the ten
most recent articles. The feed should link to a URL (like Atom feeds most
often do) on the web where the article was originally published. I also
want to enclose the articles in PDF format (for long time preservation).
The second presentation form is a HTML page that links to the individual
PDFs, sorted by date.
I do not want to run an application on my server. Because the content will
not be update too often I think storing the files statically and
generating them on my local machine on demand should suffice.
What tool do I need; and where to get started?
Thanks in advance,
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Daniel Aleksandersen <al...@runbox.com>
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Re: Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Posted by The Web Maestro <th...@gmail.com>.
IMO, if you just want to generate the web site once or infrequently
(i.e., offline), then Apache Forrest <http://forrest.apache.org/> may
fit the bill (Apache Forrest is based on Cocoon).
IMO, Apache Cocoon would be good if you want to have the web site
generated in real-time (on-the-fly so-to-speak) although it could also
be used to generate it off-line.
It 'sounds like' you want to generate off-line, so Apache Forrest may
be a better choice. Either way, PDF files may be created using Apache
FOP (I believe binaries are included with both project releases, to
make it easier).
Good luck!
Web Maestro Clay
On Dec 10, 2007 5:00 AM, MichaelNie <xm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Daniel Aleksandersen-9 wrote:
> >
> > You misunderstood me. I want to use Cocoon/FOP on my own machine and then
> > upload the output to my server. But I am unsure how to do this. Or, as I
> > wrote earlier: I am unsure where to begin.
> >
>
> You really need to specify what your "application" should do. only convert
> xml to pdf or also generating the webpages?
> If you only need to deploy pdfs to a static file system all you'd need to do
> is to call apache-fop from a local application.
> Cocoon let's you generate the whole website but will run on the server and
> add many many hours of learning to your project ;-)
>
> best regards
> Michael
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Re: Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Posted by MichaelNie <xm...@yahoo.com>.
Daniel Aleksandersen-9 wrote:
>
> You misunderstood me. I want to use Cocoon/FOP on my own machine and then
> upload the output to my server. But I am unsure how to do this. Or, as I
> wrote earlier: I am unsure where to begin.
>
You really need to specify what your "application" should do. only convert
xml to pdf or also generating the webpages?
If you only need to deploy pdfs to a static file system all you'd need to do
is to call apache-fop from a local application.
Cocoon let's you generate the whole website but will run on the server and
add many many hours of learning to your project ;-)
best regards
Michael
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Re: Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Posted by Daniel Aleksandersen <al...@runbox.com>.
On 2007-12-08 14:13, Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> Hi.
>
> see my comments below.
>
> Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I am a little uncertain about whether I need Apache Cocoon or FOP. I
> > am
>
> If you just want to generate pdf, then FOP is enough.
>
> > not very familiar with these kind of tools, but I really want to
> > learn. I will explain what I want to create, and then I hope I will
> > get some pointers to get going.
> >
> > I want to create an web archive of articles. The content will be
> > static. I have decided to store the articles in static XML files
> > instead of using a database. The main presentation form is an Atom
> > feed; containing the ten most recent articles. The feed should link
> > to a URL (like Atom feeds most often do) on the web where the article
> > was originally published. I also want to enclose the articles in PDF
> > format (for long time preservation). The second presentation form is
> > a HTML page that links to the individual PDFs, sorted by date.
>
> This looks like a good job for cocoon.. witch may use FOP for
> generating the pdfs on the fly..
I thought so.
> > I do not want to run an application on my server. Because the content
> > will not be update too often I think storing the files statically and
> > generating them on my local machine on demand should suffice.
>
> I assumed you were going to do it on the server.. if you want to do the
> transformation on the client, I'm not sure on how to proceed.. but
> then, without a server app, you'll lose cocoon and fop.. I believe most
> browsers include some kind of XSL processor, but I don't know how to
> generate pdf on the client.. maybe you could install a plugin.. or use
> an applet..
You misunderstood me. I want to use Cocoon/FOP on my own machine and then
upload the output to my server. But I am unsure how to do this. Or, as I
wrote earlier: I am unsure where to begin.
> Hope that helps.
>
> Best regards.
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Daniel Aleksandersen <al...@runbox.com>
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Re: Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Posted by Roberto Nunnari <ro...@supsi.ch>.
Hi.
see my comments below.
Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I am a little uncertain about whether I need Apache Cocoon or FOP. I am
If you just want to generate pdf, then FOP is enough.
> not very familiar with these kind of tools, but I really want to learn. I
> will explain what I want to create, and then I hope I will get some
> pointers to get going.
>
> I want to create an web archive of articles. The content will be static. I
> have decided to store the articles in static XML files instead of using a
> database. The main presentation form is an Atom feed; containing the ten
> most recent articles. The feed should link to a URL (like Atom feeds most
> often do) on the web where the article was originally published. I also
> want to enclose the articles in PDF format (for long time preservation).
> The second presentation form is a HTML page that links to the individual
> PDFs, sorted by date.
This looks like a good job for cocoon.. witch may use FOP for generating
the pdfs on the fly..
>
> I do not want to run an application on my server. Because the content will
> not be update too often I think storing the files statically and
> generating them on my local machine on demand should suffice.
I assumed you were going to do it on the server.. if you want to do the
transformation on the client, I'm not sure on how to proceed.. but then,
without a server app, you'll lose cocoon and fop.. I believe most
browsers include some kind of XSL processor, but I don't know how
to generate pdf on the client.. maybe you could install a plugin.. or
use an applet..
Hope that helps.
Best regards.
>
> What tool do I need; and where to get started?
>
> Thanks in advance,
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Re: Do I need Cocoon or FOP?
Posted by Roberto Nunnari <ro...@supsi.ch>.
Hi.
see my comments below.
Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I am a little uncertain about whether I need Apache Cocoon or FOP. I am
If you just want to generate pdf, then FOP is enough.
> not very familiar with these kind of tools, but I really want to learn. I
> will explain what I want to create, and then I hope I will get some
> pointers to get going.
>
> I want to create an web archive of articles. The content will be static. I
> have decided to store the articles in static XML files instead of using a
> database. The main presentation form is an Atom feed; containing the ten
> most recent articles. The feed should link to a URL (like Atom feeds most
> often do) on the web where the article was originally published. I also
> want to enclose the articles in PDF format (for long time preservation).
> The second presentation form is a HTML page that links to the individual
> PDFs, sorted by date.
This looks like a good job for cocoon.. witch may use FOP for generating
the pdfs on the fly..
>
> I do not want to run an application on my server. Because the content will
> not be update too often I think storing the files statically and
> generating them on my local machine on demand should suffice.
I assumed you were going to do it on the server.. if you want to do the
transformation on the client, I'm not sure on how to proceed.. but then,
without a server app, you'll lose cocoon and fop.. I believe most
browsers include some kind of XSL processor, but I don't know how
to generate pdf on the client.. maybe you could install a plugin.. or
use an applet..
Hope that helps.
Best regards.
>
> What tool do I need; and where to get started?
>
> Thanks in advance,
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