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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Laurent Forêt <l....@clipack.com> on 2003/08/22 10:00:02 UTC

General newbie question

Hello,

First of all, I am presenting myself : I am a three years experienced in java and j2ee french developper.
    I have learned recently the existence of this new project and I would like to collaborate, so I began to read the J2EE specs.

    And I have a little question or remark :
    What are the specs implemented in this project, and why ?

    For example, I have seen some mails about the implementation of the Javamail spec. Is it the right project for implementing this spec ? If we go further, in the javamail implementation does it include the JAF spec ?
    From my point of view, I will see the implementation of these specs (Javamail, JAF) in another Apache project (maybe subproject) like Xalan is for jaxp. 
And I think is to the geronimo project to decide which implementation to use.

    To be clear : one spec = one project.
    It will be more flexible.

Laurent Forêt.

Re: [JAF] RE: involving myself.

Posted by Maas van den Berg <em...@dds.nl>.
Hi guys,

I already did some work on the really basic stuff of JAF.. but just
can't seem to find the time to take it any further. I'll post a patch
later this evening.

Maas


On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 16:19, Alex Blewitt wrote:
> Great stuff. Good luck with it, and if you've got any questions
> feelfree to bounce them off me (or the list, for that matter :-)
> 
> Alex.
> 
> On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 14:09 Europe/London, Laurent Forêt wrote:
> 
>         I am gonna read allthe specs, and I will have one week holiday
>         in september to begin theimpl.
>          
>         So, let's go.
>         Laurent F.
>         
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: AlexBlewitt
>         To:geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>         Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:52 PM
>         Subject: Re: [JAF]
>         
>         
>         On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 10:30 Europe/London, Jason Dillon
>         wrote:
>         
>         Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.
>         
>         
>         Should not be a problem if the spec & impl code is well
>         isolated intoa module.
>         
>         
>          But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for
>         working on! I don't really know about this spec but it seems
>         to be at my level.Or If you are interested in translation
>         stuff, I can also do it.
>         
>         
>         I have no idea what is going on with the JAF spec bits... :-|
>         
>         
>         I think that the JAF interfaces were imported by Maas van den
>         Berg toprovide placeholders. However, I do not know if he was
>         in the processof implementing them.
>         
>         http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org&msgId=1004881
>         
>         Presently, I'm working on the JavaMail stuff which will
>         require theJAF stuff to be operational, so I had intended to
>         see what wasnecessary to get JavaMail up and working. But if
>         you are volunteeringto spend time developing the JAF, that
>         would be great :-)
>         
>         Alex.
>         


Re: [JAF] RE: involving myself.

Posted by Alex Blewitt <Al...@ioshq.com>.
Great stuff. Good luck with it, and if you've got any questions feel  
free to bounce them off me (or the list, for that matter :-)

Alex.

On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 14:09 Europe/London, Laurent Forêt wrote:

> I am gonna read all the specs, and I will have one week holiday in  
> september to begin the impl.
>  
> So, let's go.
> Laurent F.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Blewitt
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAF]
>
>
> On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 10:30 Europe/London, Jason Dillon wrote:
>
> Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.
>
>
> Should not be a problem if the spec & impl code is well isolated into  
> a module.
>
>
>  But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for working on  
> ! I don't really know about this spec but it seems to be at my level.  
> Or If you are interested in translation stuff, I can also do it.
>
>
> I have no idea what is going on with the JAF spec bits... :-|
>
>
> I think that the JAF interfaces were imported by Maas van den Berg to  
> provide placeholders. However, I do not know if he was in the process  
> of implementing them.
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo- 
> dev@incubator.apache.org&msgId=1004881
>
> Presently, I'm working on the JavaMail stuff which will require the  
> JAF stuff to be operational, so I had intended to see what was  
> necessary to get JavaMail up and working. But if you are volunteering  
> to spend time developing the JAF, that would be great :-)
>
> Alex.
>

[JAF] RE: involving myself.

Posted by Laurent Forêt <l....@clipack.com>.
I am gonna read all the specs, and I will have one week holiday in september to begin the impl.

So, let's go. 
Laurent F.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Blewitt 
  To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAF]



  On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 10:30 Europe/London, Jason Dillon wrote:


      Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.


    Should not be a problem if the spec & impl code is well isolated into a module.



       But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for working on ! I don't really know about this spec but it seems to be at my level. Or If you are interested in translation stuff, I can also do it.


    I have no idea what is going on with the JAF spec bits... :-|


  I think that the JAF interfaces were imported by Maas van den Berg to provide placeholders. However, I do not know if he was in the process of implementing them.

  http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org&msgId=1004881

  Presently, I'm working on the JavaMail stuff which will require the JAF stuff to be operational, so I had intended to see what was necessary to get JavaMail up and working. But if you are volunteering to spend time developing the JAF, that would be great :-)

  Alex.

Re: [JAF]

Posted by Alex Blewitt <Al...@ioshq.com>.
On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 10:30 Europe/London, Jason Dillon wrote:

>> Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.
>
> Should not be a problem if the spec & impl code is well isolated into  
> a module.
>
>
>>  But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for working  
>> on ! I don't really know about this spec but it seems to be at my  
>> level. Or If you are interested in translation stuff, I can also do  
>> it.
>
> I have no idea what is going on with the JAF spec bits... :-|

I think that the JAF interfaces were imported by Maas van den Berg to  
provide placeholders. However, I do not know if he was in the process  
of implementing them.

http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo- 
dev@incubator.apache.org&msgId=1004881

Presently, I'm working on the JavaMail stuff which will require the JAF  
stuff to be operational, so I had intended to see what was necessary to  
get JavaMail up and working. But if you are volunteering to spend time  
developing the JAF, that would be great :-)

Alex.

Re: General newbie question

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
> Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.

Should not be a problem if the spec & impl code is well isolated into a 
module.


>  But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for working on 
> ! I don't really know about this spec but it seems to be at my level. 
> Or If you are interested in translation stuff, I can also do it.

I have no idea what is going on with the JAF spec bits... :-|

--jason

Re: General newbie question

Posted by Laurent Forêt <l....@clipack.com>.
Ok, I understand. But I don't know if it will be easier after.

But, is there anybody working on JAF? I purpose myself for working on ! I don't really know about this spec but it seems to be at my level. Or If you are interested in translation stuff, I can also do it.


Laurent F.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jason Dillon 
  To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:24 PM
  Subject: Re: General newbie question


  It is too much overhead to start up a new project for each spec right now. Perhaps later they will be moved, but for now it is easiest to keep them as part of Geronimo.

  --jason


  On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Laurent Forêt wrote:


    Hello,
     
    First of all, I am presenting myself : I am a three years experienced in java and j2ee french developper.
        I have learned recently the existence of this new project and I would like to collaborate, so I began to read the J2EE specs.
     
        And I have a little question or remark :
        What are the specs implemented in this project, and why ?
     
        For example, I have seen some mails about the implementation of the Javamail spec. Is it the right project for implementing this spec ? If we go further, in the javamail implementation does it include the JAF spec ?
        From my point of view, I will see the implementation of these specs (Javamail, JAF) in another Apache project (maybe subproject) like Xalan is for jaxp.
    And I think is to the geronimo project to decide which implementation to use.
     
        To be clear : one spec = one project.
        It will be more flexible.
     
    Laurent Forêt.
     

Re: General newbie question

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
It is too much overhead to start up a new project for each spec right 
now.  Perhaps later they will be moved, but for now it is easiest to 
keep them as part of Geronimo.

--jason


On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 03:00  PM, Laurent Forêt wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> First of all, I am presenting myself : I am a three years experienced 
> in java and j2ee french developper.
>     I have learned recently the existence of this new project and I 
> would like to collaborate, so I began to read the J2EE specs.
>  
>     And I have a little question or remark :
>     What are the specs implemented in this project, and why ?
>  
>     For example, I have seen some mails about the implementation of 
> the Javamail spec. Is it the right project for implementing this spec 
> ? If we go further, in the javamail implementation does it include the 
> JAF spec ?
>     From my point of view, I will see the implementation of 
> these specs (Javamail, JAF) in another Apache project (maybe 
> subproject) like Xalan is for jaxp.
> And I think is to the geronimo project to decide which implementation 
> to use.
>  
>     To be clear : one spec = one project.
>     It will be more flexible.
>  
> Laurent Forêt.
>