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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> on 2020/05/11 15:35:19 UTC
Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding
source views" - what do I do?)
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:38 +0000:
> I've opened an INFRA ticket for importing the dev@ and users@ archives:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20213
Infra declined to merge the pre-Apache archives into the main archives.
Instead they offered to host the pre-Apache archives on a service that's
accessible only to Apache Software Foundation members, and even then
available only on request. Infra also reminded us that we have the
option of appealing their decision to VP Infra, …
… which I hereby do. David, the Subversion PMC requests that its
pre-Apache archives, about 240MB worth of gzipped mboxes, be publicly
served by the Apache Software Foundation. Please let the project
(Cc'd) know your answer.
Cheers,
Daniel
Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding source views" - what do I do?)
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
I pinged InfraAdmin offlist on the day he asked me to, told him where to
find the files (already prepared in the format mod_mbox expects
internally: gzipped mboxes in a particular naming pattern), and he
acknowledged. So from where I'm sitting, the ball is in Infra's court.
Nathan Hartman wrote on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:08 +00:00:
> Ping...
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:54 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Daniel, et al,
> >
> > Sorry to leave this hanging. I've been thinking on the best approach, but I do not have answer just yet. My initial thinking is that we are going to decommission mail-*.apache.org, so any solution basically means: backfill on lists.a.o. That is going to require some coordination with our vendor. I'm tending towards "yes", but the path isn't clear yet.
> >
> > There is zero problem with placing the archives onto our mbox machine for long-term archival/safety, and is likely a first step regardless. Hit me up offlist, and we can figure that part out.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> > InfraAdmin, ASF
> > (and old-school Subversion dude)
> >
> > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:30 PM Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pinging VP Infra.
> >>
> >> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:35 +0000:
> >> > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:38 +0000:
> >> > > I've opened an INFRA ticket for importing the dev@ and users@ archives:
> >> > >
> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20213
> >> >
> >> > Infra declined to merge the pre-Apache archives into the main archives.
> >> > Instead they offered to host the pre-Apache archives on a service that's
> >> > accessible only to Apache Software Foundation members, and even then
> >> > available only on request. Infra also reminded us that we have the
> >> > option of appealing their decision to VP Infra, …
> >> >
> >> > … which I hereby do. David, the Subversion PMC requests that its
> >> > pre-Apache archives, about 240MB worth of gzipped mboxes, be publicly
> >> > served by the Apache Software Foundation. Please let the project
> >> > (Cc'd) know your answer.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Daniel
> >>
>
> Hi all,
>
> It is important that we preserve the early years (pre-Apache) of our
> mail archives, as that was the period of heaviest development and
> those mails document technical rationale for our implementation.
>
> Is there a path forward?
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan
>
Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding
source views" - what do I do?)
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
Ping...
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:54 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Daniel, et al,
>
> Sorry to leave this hanging. I've been thinking on the best approach, but I do not have answer just yet. My initial thinking is that we are going to decommission mail-*.apache.org, so any solution basically means: backfill on lists.a.o. That is going to require some coordination with our vendor. I'm tending towards "yes", but the path isn't clear yet.
>
> There is zero problem with placing the archives onto our mbox machine for long-term archival/safety, and is likely a first step regardless. Hit me up offlist, and we can figure that part out.
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
> InfraAdmin, ASF
> (and old-school Subversion dude)
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:30 PM Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>
>> Pinging VP Infra.
>>
>> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:35 +0000:
>> > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:38 +0000:
>> > > I've opened an INFRA ticket for importing the dev@ and users@ archives:
>> > >
>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20213
>> >
>> > Infra declined to merge the pre-Apache archives into the main archives.
>> > Instead they offered to host the pre-Apache archives on a service that's
>> > accessible only to Apache Software Foundation members, and even then
>> > available only on request. Infra also reminded us that we have the
>> > option of appealing their decision to VP Infra, …
>> >
>> > … which I hereby do. David, the Subversion PMC requests that its
>> > pre-Apache archives, about 240MB worth of gzipped mboxes, be publicly
>> > served by the Apache Software Foundation. Please let the project
>> > (Cc'd) know your answer.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Daniel
>>
Hi all,
It is important that we preserve the early years (pre-Apache) of our
mail archives, as that was the period of heaviest development and
those mails document technical rationale for our implementation.
Is there a path forward?
Thanks,
Nathan
Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding
source views" - what do I do?)
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Hey Daniel, et al,
Sorry to leave this hanging. I've been thinking on the best approach, but I
do not have answer just yet. My initial thinking is that we are going to
decommission mail-*.apache.org, so any solution basically means: backfill
on lists.a.o. That is going to require some coordination with our vendor.
I'm tending towards "yes", but the path isn't clear yet.
There is zero problem with placing the archives onto our mbox machine for
long-term archival/safety, and is likely a first step regardless. Hit me up
offlist, and we can figure that part out.
Cheers,
Greg
InfraAdmin, ASF
(and old-school Subversion dude)
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:30 PM Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
wrote:
> Pinging VP Infra.
>
> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:35 +0000:
> > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:38 +0000:
> > > I've opened an INFRA ticket for importing the dev@ and users@
> archives:
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20213
> >
> > Infra declined to merge the pre-Apache archives into the main archives.
> > Instead they offered to host the pre-Apache archives on a service that's
> > accessible only to Apache Software Foundation members, and even then
> > available only on request. Infra also reminded us that we have the
> > option of appealing their decision to VP Infra, …
> >
> > … which I hereby do. David, the Subversion PMC requests that its
> > pre-Apache archives, about 240MB worth of gzipped mboxes, be publicly
> > served by the Apache Software Foundation. Please let the project
> > (Cc'd) know your answer.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel
>
>
Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding
source views" - what do I do?)
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Pinging VP Infra.
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:35 +0000:
> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:38 +0000:
> > I've opened an INFRA ticket for importing the dev@ and users@ archives:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20213
>
> Infra declined to merge the pre-Apache archives into the main archives.
> Instead they offered to host the pre-Apache archives on a service that's
> accessible only to Apache Software Foundation members, and even then
> available only on request. Infra also reminded us that we have the
> option of appealing their decision to VP Infra, …
>
> … which I hereby do. David, the Subversion PMC requests that its
> pre-Apache archives, about 240MB worth of gzipped mboxes, be publicly
> served by the Apache Software Foundation. Please let the project
> (Cc'd) know your answer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel