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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Pradeep Cloudstack <pr...@yahoo.com> on 2014/04/11 11:10:38 UTC
Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen Hypervisor on that
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
-pradeep
Re: Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
Posted by Rafael Weingartner <ra...@gmail.com>.
Well, if I remember right, what was discontinued was the XCP O.S. version
(If I can call it that way.). I remember that when we were going to install
XCP, there was the possibility to download an ISO that contained the Xen
hypervisor and XCP installed over some O.S. (Debian). We were going to use
that installation method. However, there was a warning saying that the O.S.
version of XCP would not be maintained anymore (just the packages would be,
you can check on XCP project it is still active. And the project is not
anymore called XCP, but rather to avoid misleading and confusion it is now
called XAPI.) and that we should pick the O.S. we like and install over it
the Xen hypervisor and XCP packages. So, that is what we did. Therefore, by
experience I can tell you that, Ubuntu was not the best choice, to many
work arounds to make, to many bugs. We are right now, migrating all of the
hosts O.S. to Debian 7-4.0. I would suggest you to do the same.
About the features, I did not notice any difference. Actually, I have never
ever looked into the Xenserver (for me it was a paid version of Xen
hypervisor, which is not the same as Xenserver, with XAPI project over it
plus some sort of support). All I can tell you is that the Cloud we built is
working nice and shiny.
What features are important for you?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Tim Mackey <tm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tracy,
>
> XCP itself was made EOL last year in favor of XenServer. You can of course
> still continue to use XCP 1.6, but there will be no future releases and
> development is now XenServer based. If the dom0 distro matters, you should
> take a look at the xenserver-core work going on.
>
> -tim
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tracy Phillips <
> tracy.phillips@weberize.com> wrote:
>
> > Rafael,
> >
> > Once you put XCP on, do you gain features that belong to Xenserver or is
> it
> > limited in someway?
> >
> > The only reason I am not using Xenserver is that I have to manage it
> > differently than my other hosts.
> >
> > Tracy
> >
> > Tracy Phillips
> > Weberize, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Rafael Weingartner <
> > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > True that, just xen hypervisor is not yet supported. However, if you
> also
> > > install the XCP over xen hypervisor it will work.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 11.04.2014 10:10, Pradeep Cloudstack wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen
> > > >> Hypervisor on that
> > > >> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
> > > >>
> > > >> Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Not yet, there are plans to make it happen, but Xen is not yet
> > supported.
> > > >
> > > > Lucian
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> > > >
> > > > Nux!
> > > > www.nux.ro
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rafael Weingärtner
> > >
> >
>
--
Rafael Weingärtner
Re: Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
Posted by Tim Mackey <tm...@gmail.com>.
Tracy,
XCP itself was made EOL last year in favor of XenServer. You can of course
still continue to use XCP 1.6, but there will be no future releases and
development is now XenServer based. If the dom0 distro matters, you should
take a look at the xenserver-core work going on.
-tim
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tracy Phillips <
tracy.phillips@weberize.com> wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> Once you put XCP on, do you gain features that belong to Xenserver or is it
> limited in someway?
>
> The only reason I am not using Xenserver is that I have to manage it
> differently than my other hosts.
>
> Tracy
>
> Tracy Phillips
> Weberize, Inc.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Rafael Weingartner <
> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > True that, just xen hypervisor is not yet supported. However, if you also
> > install the XCP over xen hypervisor it will work.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11.04.2014 10:10, Pradeep Cloudstack wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen
> > >> Hypervisor on that
> > >> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
> > >>
> > >> Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Not yet, there are plans to make it happen, but Xen is not yet
> supported.
> > >
> > > Lucian
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> > >
> > > Nux!
> > > www.nux.ro
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rafael Weingärtner
> >
>
Re: Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
Posted by Tracy Phillips <tr...@weberize.com>.
Rafael,
Once you put XCP on, do you gain features that belong to Xenserver or is it
limited in someway?
The only reason I am not using Xenserver is that I have to manage it
differently than my other hosts.
Tracy
Tracy Phillips
Weberize, Inc.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Rafael Weingartner <
rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> True that, just xen hypervisor is not yet supported. However, if you also
> install the XCP over xen hypervisor it will work.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>
> > On 11.04.2014 10:10, Pradeep Cloudstack wrote:
> >
> >> I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen
> >> Hypervisor on that
> >> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
> >>
> >> Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
> >>
> >
> > Not yet, there are plans to make it happen, but Xen is not yet supported.
> >
> > Lucian
> >
> > --
> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >
> > Nux!
> > www.nux.ro
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weingärtner
>
Re: Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
Posted by Rafael Weingartner <ra...@gmail.com>.
True that, just xen hypervisor is not yet supported. However, if you also
install the XCP over xen hypervisor it will work.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> On 11.04.2014 10:10, Pradeep Cloudstack wrote:
>
>> I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen
>> Hypervisor on that
>> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
>>
>> Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
>>
>
> Not yet, there are plans to make it happen, but Xen is not yet supported.
>
> Lucian
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
--
Rafael Weingärtner
Re: Cloudstack support for Xen (on Ubuntu)
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
On 11.04.2014 10:10, Pradeep Cloudstack wrote:
> I have a server running Ubuntu 13.04. I am planning to install Xen
> Hypervisor on that
> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed#Xen_and_XAPI)
>
> Can I then have it managed (as a host) by Cloudstack 4.2 ?
Not yet, there are plans to make it happen, but Xen is not yet
supported.
Lucian
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro