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Posted to user@couchdb.apache.org by Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com> on 2010/05/26 20:41:02 UTC

Proposed London CouchDB meetup, June 30th

Hi everyone,

I'd like to invite everyone who's interested in CouchDB and happens to 
be in or near London on the evening of wednesday June 30th to come and 
have dinner and/or a drink with me and some of my colleagues and very 
informally discuss whatever is on our collective minds. We haven't 
decided on a place yet, (suggestions are welcome,) so when I have the 
details hammered out, I'll let you know.

-- 
eric casteleijn
https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
Canonical Ltd.


Re: Anyone ETA on fixing push replication?

Posted by Bharat Bharat <Bh...@citrix.com>.
0.11(built an rpm off 0.11 source)

Unfortunately, I can not use trunk straight off and will have to wait on a release version. 

(Assuming my understanding on trunk is correct)

On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Filipe David Manana wrote:

> By curiosity, are you using CouchDB 0.11 or trunk?
> That problem should be gone with trunk.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Bharat Bharat <Bh...@citrix.com>wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Chris.
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:33 PM, J Chris Anderson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bharat Bharat wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I find push replication very very buggy for 2 reasons:
>>>> 
>>>> - Very high failure rate for replication across different subnet.
>>>> - Inflates target DB size to almost like 10 times.
>>>> 
>>>> For my exact test scenarios, pull replication works flawlessly and push
>> fails like almost every time. Couchdb itself recommends pull replication
>> over push. This however leads to another problem that you have to log in to
>> your target DB instances to trigger pull(or use curl to specify source and
>> target urls). I think the problem starts when you try to specify a URL
>> instead of just DB name in the target body.
>>>> 
>>>> curl -X POST -d '{"source":"db","target":"http://10.1.1.1:5984/db2"}'
>> http://localhost:5984/_replicate
>>>> 
>>>> I was wondering if there is some sort of fix/patch out there or any plan
>> to fix this in upcoming releases?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks very much
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, these problems are well known. There's been lots of work going into
>> the replication APIs for the next release.
>>> 
>>> You might try trunk and see if it's better for you.
>>> 
>>> And Damien is working on a brand new replicator, which should be much
>> simpler code, so for 1.1 or some future release we'll have licked this stuff
>> for good.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Filipe David Manana,
> fdmanana@gmail.com
> 
> "Reasonable men adapt themselves to the world.
> Unreasonable men adapt the world to themselves.
> That's why all progress depends on unreasonable men."


Re: Anyone ETA on fixing push replication?

Posted by Filipe David Manana <fd...@gmail.com>.
By curiosity, are you using CouchDB 0.11 or trunk?
That problem should be gone with trunk.


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Bharat Bharat <Bh...@citrix.com>wrote:

> Thanks Chris.
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:33 PM, J Chris Anderson wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bharat Bharat wrote:
> >
> >> I find push replication very very buggy for 2 reasons:
> >>
> >> - Very high failure rate for replication across different subnet.
> >> - Inflates target DB size to almost like 10 times.
> >>
> >> For my exact test scenarios, pull replication works flawlessly and push
> fails like almost every time. Couchdb itself recommends pull replication
> over push. This however leads to another problem that you have to log in to
> your target DB instances to trigger pull(or use curl to specify source and
> target urls). I think the problem starts when you try to specify a URL
> instead of just DB name in the target body.
> >>
> >> curl -X POST -d '{"source":"db","target":"http://10.1.1.1:5984/db2"}'
> http://localhost:5984/_replicate
> >>
> >> I was wondering if there is some sort of fix/patch out there or any plan
> to fix this in upcoming releases?
> >>
> >> Thanks very much
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yes, these problems are well known. There's been lots of work going into
> the replication APIs for the next release.
> >
> > You might try trunk and see if it's better for you.
> >
> > And Damien is working on a brand new replicator, which should be much
> simpler code, so for 1.1 or some future release we'll have licked this stuff
> for good.
> >
> > Chris
>
>


-- 
Filipe David Manana,
fdmanana@gmail.com

"Reasonable men adapt themselves to the world.
Unreasonable men adapt the world to themselves.
That's why all progress depends on unreasonable men."

Re: Anyone ETA on fixing push replication?

Posted by Bharat Bharat <Bh...@citrix.com>.
Thanks Chris.

On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:33 PM, J Chris Anderson wrote:

> 
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bharat Bharat wrote:
> 
>> I find push replication very very buggy for 2 reasons:
>> 
>> - Very high failure rate for replication across different subnet.
>> - Inflates target DB size to almost like 10 times.
>> 
>> For my exact test scenarios, pull replication works flawlessly and push fails like almost every time. Couchdb itself recommends pull replication over push. This however leads to another problem that you have to log in to your target DB instances to trigger pull(or use curl to specify source and target urls). I think the problem starts when you try to specify a URL instead of just DB name in the target body.
>> 
>> curl -X POST -d '{"source":"db","target":"http://10.1.1.1:5984/db2"}' http://localhost:5984/_replicate
>> 
>> I was wondering if there is some sort of fix/patch out there or any plan to fix this in upcoming releases?
>> 
>> Thanks very much
>> 
> 
> 
> Yes, these problems are well known. There's been lots of work going into the replication APIs for the next release. 
> 
> You might try trunk and see if it's better for you.
> 
> And Damien is working on a brand new replicator, which should be much simpler code, so for 1.1 or some future release we'll have licked this stuff for good.
> 
> Chris


Re: Anyone ETA on fixing push replication?

Posted by J Chris Anderson <jc...@gmail.com>.
On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bharat Bharat wrote:

> I find push replication very very buggy for 2 reasons:
> 
> - Very high failure rate for replication across different subnet.
> - Inflates target DB size to almost like 10 times.
> 
> For my exact test scenarios, pull replication works flawlessly and push fails like almost every time. Couchdb itself recommends pull replication over push. This however leads to another problem that you have to log in to your target DB instances to trigger pull(or use curl to specify source and target urls). I think the problem starts when you try to specify a URL instead of just DB name in the target body.
> 
> curl -X POST -d '{"source":"db","target":"http://10.1.1.1:5984/db2"}' http://localhost:5984/_replicate
> 
> I was wondering if there is some sort of fix/patch out there or any plan to fix this in upcoming releases?
> 
> Thanks very much
> 


Yes, these problems are well known. There's been lots of work going into the replication APIs for the next release. 

You might try trunk and see if it's better for you.

And Damien is working on a brand new replicator, which should be much simpler code, so for 1.1 or some future release we'll have licked this stuff for good.

Chris

Anyone ETA on fixing push replication?

Posted by Bharat Bharat <Bh...@citrix.com>.
I find push replication very very buggy for 2 reasons:

- Very high failure rate for replication across different subnet.
- Inflates target DB size to almost like 10 times.

 For my exact test scenarios, pull replication works flawlessly and push fails like almost every time. Couchdb itself recommends pull replication over push. This however leads to another problem that you have to log in to your target DB instances to trigger pull(or use curl to specify source and target urls). I think the problem starts when you try to specify a URL instead of just DB name in the target body.

curl -X POST -d '{"source":"db","target":"http://10.1.1.1:5984/db2"}' http://localhost:5984/_replicate

I was wondering if there is some sort of fix/patch out there or any plan to fix this in upcoming releases?

Thanks very much


Re: London CouchDB meetup moved to June 29th [was Re: Proposed London CouchDB meetup, June 30th]

Posted by Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com>.
On 06/09/2010 12:01 PM, Simon Metson wrote:
> Hey,
> I'm up in London for a conference, so would be happy to meet up.
> Cheers
> Simon

oh, what awesome luck! Some of my colleagues will be there, as will some 
of the BBC people who use CouchDB, whom I've not talked to before, so it 
should be fun. I'll definitely shoot you a mail with the final time and 
place as soon as I have them! (And obviously feel free to bring whomever 
you want from the conference. Not all of my colleagues are deep into 
couchdb, so it's likely that it'll turn into a more general nerd social 
event.)

-- 
eric casteleijn
https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
Canonical Ltd.


Re: London CouchDB meetup moved to June 29th [was Re: Proposed London CouchDB meetup, June 30th]

Posted by Simon Metson <si...@googlemail.com>.
Hey,
	I'm up in London for a conference, so would be happy to meet up.
Cheers
Simon

On 6 Jun 2010, at 14:04, Eric Casteleijn wrote:

> On 05/26/2010 02:41 PM, Eric Casteleijn wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'd like to invite everyone who's interested in CouchDB and happens  
>> to
>> be in or near London on the evening of wednesday June 30th to come  
>> and
>> have dinner and/or a drink with me and some of my colleagues and very
>> informally discuss whatever is on our collective minds. We haven't
>> decided on a place yet, (suggestions are welcome,) so when I have the
>> details hammered out, I'll let you know.
>
> We're moving the meet-up to June 29th, since the only confirmed  
> attendee up until now could not make the 30th. I will soon send an  
> exact time and location.
>
> -- 
> eric casteleijn
> https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
> Canonical Ltd.
>


London CouchDB meetup moved to June 29th [was Re: Proposed London CouchDB meetup, June 30th]

Posted by Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com>.
On 05/26/2010 02:41 PM, Eric Casteleijn wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'd like to invite everyone who's interested in CouchDB and happens to
> be in or near London on the evening of wednesday June 30th to come and
> have dinner and/or a drink with me and some of my colleagues and very
> informally discuss whatever is on our collective minds. We haven't
> decided on a place yet, (suggestions are welcome,) so when I have the
> details hammered out, I'll let you know.

We're moving the meet-up to June 29th, since the only confirmed attendee 
up until now could not make the 30th. I will soon send an exact time and 
location.

-- 
eric casteleijn
https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
Canonical Ltd.


Re: CouchDB London meetup July 1st (yes it moved again, I suck)

Posted by Simon Metson <si...@googlemail.com>.
Blast, I'll not be around. Oh well, next time...

On 10 Jun 2010, at 16:50, Eric Casteleijn wrote:

> [bcc-ing everyone who expressed an interest, so you might get this  
> twice.]
>
> Ok, I've had to move the meetup yet again, because tuesday night  
> turns out to be booked for a Canonical event.
>
> So, I propose we meet Thursday, July 1st, at 8pm at the Porterhouse  
> in Covent Garden:
>
> http://www.porterhousebrewco.com/coventgarden.html
> 21-22 Maiden Lane
> London WC2E 7NA, United Kingdom
> 020 7379 7917
>
> We'll probably be having dinner there around 7pm, and if you want to  
> join us, please make your own reservations. I'll try and not forget  
> to wear an Ubuntu hat or something, but I'm sure you can pick out  
> the geeks anyway ;)
>
> I hope everyone who confirmed can still make it. If not, feel free  
> to rebel, and have your own couch meetup without me, I deserve no  
> less.
>
> -- 
> eric casteleijn
> https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
> Canonical Ltd.
>


Re: CouchDB London meetup July 1st (yes it moved again, I suck)

Posted by Manuel de la Peña <et...@gmail.com>.
I´m sure I´ll be able to get to this one.

Kr,

Mandel

On 10 June 2010 17:50, Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com>wrote:

> [bcc-ing everyone who expressed an interest, so you might get this twice.]
>
> Ok, I've had to move the meetup yet again, because tuesday night turns out
> to be booked for a Canonical event.
>
> So, I propose we meet Thursday, July 1st, at 8pm at the Porterhouse in
> Covent Garden:
>
> http://www.porterhousebrewco.com/coventgarden.html
> 21-22 Maiden Lane
> London WC2E 7NA, United Kingdom
> 020 7379 7917
>
> We'll probably be having dinner there around 7pm, and if you want to join
> us, please make your own reservations. I'll try and not forget to wear an
> Ubuntu hat or something, but I'm sure you can pick out the geeks anyway ;)
>
> I hope everyone who confirmed can still make it. If not, feel free to
> rebel, and have your own couch meetup without me, I deserve no less.
>
> --
> eric casteleijn
> https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred<https://code.launchpad.net/%7Ethisfred>
> Canonical Ltd.
>
>

CouchDB London meetup July 1st (yes it moved again, I suck)

Posted by Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com>.
[bcc-ing everyone who expressed an interest, so you might get this twice.]

Ok, I've had to move the meetup yet again, because tuesday night turns 
out to be booked for a Canonical event.

So, I propose we meet Thursday, July 1st, at 8pm at the Porterhouse in 
Covent Garden:

http://www.porterhousebrewco.com/coventgarden.html
21-22 Maiden Lane
London WC2E 7NA, United Kingdom
020 7379 7917

We'll probably be having dinner there around 7pm, and if you want to 
join us, please make your own reservations. I'll try and not forget to 
wear an Ubuntu hat or something, but I'm sure you can pick out the geeks 
anyway ;)

I hope everyone who confirmed can still make it. If not, feel free to 
rebel, and have your own couch meetup without me, I deserve no less.

-- 
eric casteleijn
https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
Canonical Ltd.


Reminder: CouchDB London meetup tonight

Posted by Eric Casteleijn <er...@canonical.com>.
We'll be having an informal CouchDb meetup tonight, Thursday, July 1st, 
at 8pm at the Porterhouse in Covent Garden:

http://www.porterhousebrewco.com/coventgarden.html
21-22 Maiden Lane
London WC2E 7NA, United Kingdom
020 7379 7917

Anyone is welcome, feel free to bring friends, colleagues and family ;)

-- 
eric casteleijn
https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred
Canonical Ltd.