IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

All,

As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
implementation would be used instead.

In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
developers that do not depend on ICU.

- James

[1] http://icu.sourceforge.net/

Re: IRI Implementation

[Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>]

+1 from me.

-- dims

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> implementation would be used instead.
>
> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> developers that do not depend on ICU.
>
> - James
>
> [1] http://icu.sourceforge.net/
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>]

+1 from me.

-- dims

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> implementation would be used instead.
>
> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> developers that do not depend on ICU.
>
> - James
>
> [1] http://icu.sourceforge.net/
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Harris Boyce III <ha...@gmail.com>]

I'm +1 on that as there is only IDNA support in .NET and will need to
implement it anyway for the Abdera impl.

Harris

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> implementation would be used instead.
>
> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> developers that do not depend on ICU.
>
> - James
>
> [1] http://icu.sourceforge.net/
>

Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

Ok, I think we have enough +1's then on this to move forward.  From what
I've been able to determine, the Jakarta commons is likely the best
catcher for this.

I'm not all that familiar with the process of getting a new commons
project up and running so it would be excellent if someone with more
experience in that area could step up and help guide the process.
Following the Abdera 0.2.0 release (and likely following the Christmas
holiday) I will start to extract out the IRI/Unicode stuff into it's own
package so it can be easily migrated over to the commons repository.

- James

Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 11/20/06, Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
>> > WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
>> > JSE 6 dropped it.
>> >
>> > Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
>> > does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>> >
>> > BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
>> > we can keep the impl small.
>>
>> I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
>> happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
>> similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
>> so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
>> enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
>> incubator project into Jackrabbit...
> 
> 
> Not sure where we ended up on this, but, modulo the procedural issues, +1
> from me for bringing this to Commons.
> 
> -- 
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> -garrett
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Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

Ok, I think we have enough +1's then on this to move forward.  From what
I've been able to determine, the Jakarta commons is likely the best
catcher for this.

I'm not all that familiar with the process of getting a new commons
project up and running so it would be excellent if someone with more
experience in that area could step up and help guide the process.
Following the Abdera 0.2.0 release (and likely following the Christmas
holiday) I will start to extract out the IRI/Unicode stuff into it's own
package so it can be easily migrated over to the commons repository.

- James

Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 11/20/06, Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
>> > WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
>> > JSE 6 dropped it.
>> >
>> > Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
>> > does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>> >
>> > BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
>> > we can keep the impl small.
>>
>> I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
>> happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
>> similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
>> so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
>> enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
>> incubator project into Jackrabbit...
> 
> 
> Not sure where we ended up on this, but, modulo the procedural issues, +1
> from me for bringing this to Commons.
> 
> -- 
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> -garrett
>>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

Ok, I think we have enough +1's then on this to move forward.  From what
I've been able to determine, the Jakarta commons is likely the best
catcher for this.

I'm not all that familiar with the process of getting a new commons
project up and running so it would be excellent if someone with more
experience in that area could step up and help guide the process.
Following the Abdera 0.2.0 release (and likely following the Christmas
holiday) I will start to extract out the IRI/Unicode stuff into it's own
package so it can be easily migrated over to the commons repository.

- James

Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 11/20/06, Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
>> > WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
>> > JSE 6 dropped it.
>> >
>> > Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
>> > does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>> >
>> > BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
>> > we can keep the impl small.
>>
>> I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
>> happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
>> similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
>> so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
>> enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
>> incubator project into Jackrabbit...
> 
> 
> Not sure where we ended up on this, but, modulo the procedural issues, +1
> from me for bringing this to Commons.
> 
> -- 
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> -garrett
>>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>]

On 11/20/06, Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>
> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> > WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> > JSE 6 dropped it.
> >
> > Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> > does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
> >
> > BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> > we can keep the impl small.
>
> I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
> happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
> similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
> so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
> enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
> incubator project into Jackrabbit...


Not sure where we ended up on this, but, modulo the procedural issues, +1
from me for bringing this to Commons.

--
Martin Cooper


-garrett
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>]

On 11/20/06, Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>
> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> > WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> > JSE 6 dropped it.
> >
> > Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> > does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
> >
> > BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> > we can keep the impl small.
>
> I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
> happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
> similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
> so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
> enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
> incubator project into Jackrabbit...


Not sure where we ended up on this, but, modulo the procedural issues, +1
from me for bringing this to Commons.

--
Martin Cooper


-garrett
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>]

On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> JSE 6 dropped it.
>
> Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>
> BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> we can keep the impl small.

I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
incubator project into Jackrabbit...

-garrett

Re: IRI Implementation

[Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>]

On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> JSE 6 dropped it.
>
> Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>
> BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> we can keep the impl small.

I imagine that there is some sort of hoop to jump through to make this
happen, but I'm not sure about the details.  I'm pretty sure something
similar happened in another incubator project fairly recently though,
so the archives of general@incubator.a.o would probably be
enlightening.  I seem to recall something about moving a bit of some
incubator project into Jackrabbit...

-garrett

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Re: IRI Implementation

[Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>]

Hi, I found IRI in org.apache.abdera.util.iri ... what
packages/classes do you expect to put out to commons? Is there any
refactoring required first to make it self contained.

Thanks,
Jeremy

(this might be a repeat ... sorry)

On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> JSE 6 dropped it.
>
> Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>
> BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> we can keep the impl small.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
> > preference where it ends up.
> >
> > - James
> >
> > Garrett Rooney wrote:
> > > On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> > >> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> > >> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> > >> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> > >> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> > >> implementation would be used instead.
> > >>
> > >> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> > >> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> > >> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> > >> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> > >> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> > >
> > > I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> > > into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> > > the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> > > specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> > > more appropriate home.
> > >
> > > -garrett
> > >
> >
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Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

*.util.io
*.util.iri
*.util.unicode

The only refactoring necessary would be a package rename... well... it
would probably also be good to have a few more folks dig into the code
to make sure it doesn't suck :-)

- James

Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi, I found IRI in org.apache.abdera.util.iri ... what
>> packages/classes do you expect to put out to commons? Is there any
>> refactoring required first to make it self contained.
> 
> IIRC it's pretty self contained.  There are a few helper classes that
> live outside of the util.iri package (in util.io, I believe), but not
> many, so I expect the work would be minimal.
> 
> -garrett
> 

Re: IRI Implementation

[Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>]

On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi, I found IRI in org.apache.abdera.util.iri ... what
> packages/classes do you expect to put out to commons? Is there any
> refactoring required first to make it self contained.

IIRC it's pretty self contained.  There are a few helper classes that
live outside of the util.iri package (in util.io, I believe), but not
many, so I expect the work would be minimal.

-garrett

Re: IRI Implementation

[Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>]

Hi, I found IRI in org.apache.abdera.util.iri ... what
packages/classes do you expect to put out to commons? Is there any
refactoring required first to make it self contained.

Thanks,
Jeremy

On 11/20/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
> WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
> JSE 6 dropped it.
>
> Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
> does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?
>
> BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
> we can keep the impl small.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
> > preference where it ends up.
> >
> > - James
> >
> > Garrett Rooney wrote:
> > > On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> > >> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> > >> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> > >> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> > >> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> > >> implementation would be used instead.
> > >>
> > >> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> > >> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> > >> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> > >> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> > >> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> > >
> > > I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> > > into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> > > the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> > > specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> > > more appropriate home.
> > >
> > > -garrett
> > >
> >
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>]

+1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
JSE 6 dropped it.

Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?

BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
we can keep the impl small.

Cheers,
Jeremy

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
> preference where it ends up.
>
> - James
>
> Garrett Rooney wrote:
> > On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> >> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> >> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> >> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> >> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> >> implementation would be used instead.
> >>
> >> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> >> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> >> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> >> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> >> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> >
> > I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> > into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> > the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> > specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> > more appropriate home.
> >
> > -garrett
> >
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>]

+1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
JSE 6 dropped it.

Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?

BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
we can keep the impl small.

Cheers,
Jeremy

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
> preference where it ends up.
>
> - James
>
> Garrett Rooney wrote:
> > On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> >> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> >> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> >> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> >> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> >> implementation would be used instead.
> >>
> >> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> >> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> >> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> >> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> >> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> >
> > I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> > into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> > the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> > specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> > more appropriate home.
> >
> > -garrett
> >
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>]

+1 from me to separating it out. In Woden we could really use IRI -
WSDL 2.0 spec uses them, but we're having to work around this since
JSE 6 dropped it.

Question about incubation though - you say IRI is part of abdera so
does IRI require a graduation vote to get into jakarta commons?

BTW: IMHO jakarta commons would be a great place for it - as long as
we can keep the impl small.

Cheers,
Jeremy

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
> preference where it ends up.
>
> - James
>
> Garrett Rooney wrote:
> > On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> >> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> >> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> >> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> >> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> >> implementation would be used instead.
> >>
> >> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> >> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> >> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> >> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> >> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> >
> > I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> > into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> > the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> > specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> > more appropriate home.
> >
> > -garrett
> >
>
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Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
preference where it ends up.

- James

Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
>> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
>> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
>> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
>> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
>> implementation would be used instead.
>>
>> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
>> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
>> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
>> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
>> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> 
> I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> more appropriate home.
> 
> -garrett
> 

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Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
preference where it ends up.

- James

Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
>> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
>> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
>> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
>> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
>> implementation would be used instead.
>>
>> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
>> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
>> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
>> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
>> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> 
> I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> more appropriate home.
> 
> -garrett
> 

Re: IRI Implementation

[James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com>]

I forwarded the note over to that mailing list.  I have no particular
preference where it ends up.

- James

Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
>> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
>> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
>> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
>> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
>> implementation would be used instead.
>>
>> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
>> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
>> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
>> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
>> developers that do not depend on ICU.
> 
> I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
> into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
> the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
> specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
> more appropriate home.
> 
> -garrett
> 

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Re: IRI Implementation

[Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>]

On 11/20/06, James M Snell <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> As part of the Abdera incubation project I've implemented support for
> IRIs that includes unicode normalization, IDNA, punycode, etc.  This
> code duplicates a subset of what is provided by ICU [1] in a much
> smaller package.  The intention (tho not the current reality) has been
> to make it so that if ICU was present, it's unicode and IDNA
> implementation would be used instead.
>
> In any case, I was wondering if there would be interest in separating
> the Abdera IRI implementation out into it's own commons project so that
> it can be available for more than just Abdera.  Use of IRIs is growing
> and there are currently no other implementations available to Java
> developers that do not depend on ICU.

I'm definately +1 on moving the IRI implementation out of Abdera and
into a more generically useful library, but I wonder if commons@ws is
the most appropriate place.  Since there's nothing web-service
specific in needing to use IRIs, perhaps Jakarta Commons would be a
more appropriate home.

-garrett