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[GitHub] [beam] udim opened a new pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

udim opened a new pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-816992176


   WDYT?


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-806063843


   LGTM.
   I wonder if it's good to also mention why Serializable is not a good idea?


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-806053764


   R: @pabloem 


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-806134917


   > I wonder if it's good to also mention why Serializable is not a good idea?
   
   Do you have an explanation? I'm not very familiar with Java coders.


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-827747571


   Ping, thanks


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-811507261


   I think it's a good addition. I wanted to say "as much as Nx" instead of "much larger", but I don't know how much larger. 2x, 10x, 100x?


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[GitHub] [beam] udim merged pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim merged pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326


   


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-806139788


   the only reasons I can think of are:
   
   1. Much larger data sizes when using SerializableCoder
   2. Non-deterministing encoding when using SerializableCoder


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-811374492


   WDYT? Should we just merge or do you want to add info about serializable?


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-827748869


   awesome. LGTM! Please feel free to merge as you see fit : )


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-818345779


   > WDYT?
   
   Sorry I've been busy. I'll take a look soon


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[GitHub] [beam] pabloem commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
pabloem commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-811526875


   Here's one example:
   - https://blog.softwaremill.com/the-best-serialization-strategy-for-event-sourcing-9321c299632b
   
   In this example, it seems ~10x, and also worse in performance.
   
   In this blog post: https://devopedia.org/data-serialization they mention Oracle saying Java SErialization was a 'horrible mistake', and compare other serialization methods.


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[GitHub] [beam] udim commented on pull request #14326: Clarify when to use `@DefaultCoder`

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udim commented on pull request #14326:
URL: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14326#issuecomment-823736799


   PTAL, I expanded the text a bit.


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