Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr>]

Hi Jessee,

I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You 
wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before 
announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you have 
an idea on when this could happen now ?

Thanks for the hard work


L.



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Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Igor Drobiazko <ig...@gmail.com>]

Great news, especially for those people who couldn't use snapshots.
I hope there will be more releases in the future.

On 6/14/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well now ~cough~ umm ...I wouldn't say it's lacking features - he's just
> being careful / methodical like always.  I'm sure Howard is quite capable
> of
> doing a better job than what happened in T4 (and we'll expect nothing less
> ;) ) but it's a really tricky thing to get right.  I'm still not totally
> satisfied with the way things work in 4.1.2 and hope that the fresh start
> T5
> has and much thinking will continue to produce a clean model.  There are a
> lot of neat "ajax" features in there already from what I've read. (like
> event bubbling in the server side as well? perfect abstraction )
>
> Realistically sometimes these things are actually being worked on - if
> only
> in someones head for weeks/months until they feel like everything has been
> thought through.  It's not something you can just rush in to or
> anything...
>
> On 6/14/07, Renat Zubairov <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great news! Looking forward to see a new release!
> >
> > I really hope that after 4.1.2 Jesse would be able to contibute all
> > his experience and _excellent_ ideas in to Tapestry 5 which is really
> > lucking AJAX features right now.
> >
> > What are the plans about AJAX in Tap5?
> >
> > Renat
> >
> > On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people
> > about
> > > some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything
> by
> > this
> > > weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.
> After
> > > that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> > > releasing tapestry.
> > >
> > > On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jessee,
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release.
> You
> > > > wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable
> before
> > > > announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you
> > have
> > > > an idea on when this could happen now ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the hard work
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > L.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jesse Kuhnert
> > > Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
> > >
> > > Open source based consulting work centered around
> > > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Renat Zubairov
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>

Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Renat Zubairov <re...@gmail.com>]

Agree with you Jesse, but I'm pretty sure that "good enough" solution
can only emerge from the frequent iterations and frequent feedback
from the users - mean frequent releases of the functionality.
IMHO in Tap5 most important thing that is missing is AJAX, let it be
very simple, very primitive but integrated into Tap5 as a separate
module (say tapestry-ajax or something like this) that we can play
with them and see.

Renat

On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well now ~cough~ umm ...I wouldn't say it's lacking features - he's just
> being careful / methodical like always.  I'm sure Howard is quite capable of
> doing a better job than what happened in T4 (and we'll expect nothing less
> ;) ) but it's a really tricky thing to get right.  I'm still not totally
> satisfied with the way things work in 4.1.2 and hope that the fresh start T5
> has and much thinking will continue to produce a clean model.  There are a
> lot of neat "ajax" features in there already from what I've read. (like
> event bubbling in the server side as well? perfect abstraction )
>
> Realistically sometimes these things are actually being worked on - if only
> in someones head for weeks/months until they feel like everything has been
> thought through.  It's not something you can just rush in to or anything...
>
> On 6/14/07, Renat Zubairov <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great news! Looking forward to see a new release!
> >
> > I really hope that after 4.1.2 Jesse would be able to contibute all
> > his experience and _excellent_ ideas in to Tapestry 5 which is really
> > lucking AJAX features right now.
> >
> > What are the plans about AJAX in Tap5?
> >
> > Renat
> >
> > On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people
> > about
> > > some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by
> > this
> > > weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
> > > that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> > > releasing tapestry.
> > >
> > > On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jessee,
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You
> > > > wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before
> > > > announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you
> > have
> > > > an idea on when this could happen now ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the hard work
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > L.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jesse Kuhnert
> > > Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
> > >
> > > Open source based consulting work centered around
> > > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Renat Zubairov
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>


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Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>]

Well now ~cough~ umm ...I wouldn't say it's lacking features - he's just
being careful / methodical like always.  I'm sure Howard is quite capable of
doing a better job than what happened in T4 (and we'll expect nothing less
;) ) but it's a really tricky thing to get right.  I'm still not totally
satisfied with the way things work in 4.1.2 and hope that the fresh start T5
has and much thinking will continue to produce a clean model.  There are a
lot of neat "ajax" features in there already from what I've read. (like
event bubbling in the server side as well? perfect abstraction )

Realistically sometimes these things are actually being worked on - if only
in someones head for weeks/months until they feel like everything has been
thought through.  It's not something you can just rush in to or anything...

On 6/14/07, Renat Zubairov <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great news! Looking forward to see a new release!
>
> I really hope that after 4.1.2 Jesse would be able to contibute all
> his experience and _excellent_ ideas in to Tapestry 5 which is really
> lucking AJAX features right now.
>
> What are the plans about AJAX in Tap5?
>
> Renat
>
> On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people
> about
> > some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by
> this
> > weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
> > that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> > releasing tapestry.
> >
> > On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jessee,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You
> > > wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before
> > > announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you
> have
> > > an idea on when this could happen now ?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the hard work
> > >
> > >
> > > L.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jesse Kuhnert
> > Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
> >
> > Open source based consulting work centered around
> > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Renat Zubairov
>
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Jesse Kuhnert
Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer

Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com

Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Renat Zubairov <re...@gmail.com>]

Great news! Looking forward to see a new release!

I really hope that after 4.1.2 Jesse would be able to contibute all
his experience and _excellent_ ideas in to Tapestry 5 which is really
lucking AJAX features right now.

What are the plans about AJAX in Tap5?

Renat

On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people about
> some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by this
> weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
> that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> releasing tapestry.
>
> On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jessee,
> >
> > I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You
> > wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before
> > announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you have
> > an idea on when this could happen now ?
> >
> > Thanks for the hard work
> >
> >
> > L.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>


-- 
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Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Jun Tsai <ju...@gmail.com>]

2007/6/14, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>:
>
> I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people
> about
> some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by
> this
> weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
> that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
> releasing tapestry.



Looking forward to T4.1.2.My project still use T4.1.1 so long time.Now can I
upgrade to T4.1.2?

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Re: Tapestry 4.1.2 Expected release Date

[Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>]

I am waiting a few days for word back from the opensymphony.com people about
some items I need to get OGNL released.  If I haven't heard anything by this
weekend I may just release it quietly on ibiblio myself for now.   After
that is done then we can finally start all of the steps involved in
releasing tapestry.

On 6/13/07, Lionel Touati <l....@expediacorporate.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi Jessee,
>
> I was wondering if you've updated the schedule for 4.1.2 release. You
> wrote earlier that you would be waiting for OGNL to get stable before
> announcing anything. It seems to me this is the case now, so do you have
> an idea on when this could happen now ?
>
> Thanks for the hard work
>
>
> L.
>
>
>
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>


-- 
Jesse Kuhnert
Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer

Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com