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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org> on 2008/02/26 10:57:00 UTC
Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI
Jason Haar writes:
> Anthony Peacock wrote:
> >
> > I have had a look around the http://www.habeas.com/ website and can't
> > really see how to check the company in question, or make a complaint.
> > There is a form for asking them to ask the company to remove these
> > addresses from their mailing list, but I don't want to have to do
> > that, I want to complain about the company.
> This is a "me too". I had the same problem and came to exactly the same
> conclusion: there's no way I could find to notify them that one of their
> supposedly squeaky-clean customers is sending spam. I'm pushing their
> score down to 0 too.
No way you could find? look harder guys ;)
at the top of www.habeas.com, 'Support', then 'Give Feedback on Habeas
Certified Senders' brings you to this page:
http://www.habeas.com/en-US/Company_Feedback.php
That page says you can also just forward it to complaints /at/ habeas.com.
'HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI' is supposed to require confirmed opt-in. They
should LART these senders with a big stick.
--j.
Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI
Posted by Yet Another Ninja <sa...@alexb.ch>.
On 2/26/2008 10:57 AM, Justin Mason wrote:
> Jason Haar writes:
>> Anthony Peacock wrote:
>>> I have had a look around the http://www.habeas.com/ website and can't
>>> really see how to check the company in question, or make a complaint.
>>> There is a form for asking them to ask the company to remove these
>>> addresses from their mailing list, but I don't want to have to do
>>> that, I want to complain about the company.
>> This is a "me too". I had the same problem and came to exactly the same
>> conclusion: there's no way I could find to notify them that one of their
>> supposedly squeaky-clean customers is sending spam. I'm pushing their
>> score down to 0 too.
>
> No way you could find? look harder guys ;)
>
> at the top of www.habeas.com, 'Support', then 'Give Feedback on Habeas
> Certified Senders' brings you to this page:
>
> http://www.habeas.com/en-US/Company_Feedback.php
>
> That page says you can also just forward it to complaints /at/ habeas.com.
>
> 'HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI' is supposed to require confirmed opt-in. They
> should LART these senders with a big stick.
I would personally welcome all these "certifier" rules being disabled by
default.
There's performance and filtering reasons to request this.
Don't see any good reason to trust "paid-for-certification" ?
/Hello ESPs & Co.! - don't start the blah/flame war, here - its useless/
AXB
Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI
Posted by Igor Chudov <ic...@Algebra.Com>.
I strongly recommend to block Habeas entirely.
They are a yet another garbage email company.
i
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:10:54PM +0000, Anthony Peacock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following up to myself...
>
> Anthony Peacock wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> Justin Mason wrote:
>>> Jason Haar writes:
>>>> Anthony Peacock wrote:
>>>>> I have had a look around the http://www.habeas.com/ website and can't
>>>>> really see how to check the company in question, or make a complaint.
>>>>> There is a form for asking them to ask the company to remove these
>>>>> addresses from their mailing list, but I don't want to have to do that,
>>>>> I want to complain about the company.
>>>> This is a "me too". I had the same problem and came to exactly the same
>>>> conclusion: there's no way I could find to notify them that one of their
>>>> supposedly squeaky-clean customers is sending spam. I'm pushing their
>>>> score down to 0 too.
>>>
>>> No way you could find? look harder guys ;)
>>>
>>> at the top of www.habeas.com, 'Support', then 'Give Feedback on Habeas
>>> Certified Senders' brings you to this page:
>>>
>>> http://www.habeas.com/en-US/Company_Feedback.php
>>>
>>> That page says you can also just forward it to complaints /at/
>>> habeas.com.
>>
>> I did find that page, but got hung up on the bit that says, "Please ask
>> the Sender to unsubscribe me from this email list. I understand Habeas
>> cannot guarantee I will be unsubscribed." Which, in my hurry to get to a
>> meetig this morning, made me assume that this was just another mechanism
>> to implement unsubscribing, and not a proper complaint procedure.
>>
>> I will actually report the emails that I have got. But I think I am going
>> to disable all the HABEAS rules anyway.
>
> Looking into this more, I have disabled the HABEAS checks altogether
> (setting score to 0). I did consider the suggestions about lowering the
> impact by setting the score to -0.5 or similar, but actually I don't like
> the concept of this service, and I would rather save the bandwidth and not
> do the checks altogether.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their comments.
>
Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI
Posted by Anthony Peacock <a....@chime.ucl.ac.uk>.
Hi,
Following up to myself...
Anthony Peacock wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Justin Mason wrote:
>> Jason Haar writes:
>>> Anthony Peacock wrote:
>>>> I have had a look around the http://www.habeas.com/ website and
>>>> can't really see how to check the company in question, or make a
>>>> complaint. There is a form for asking them to ask the company to
>>>> remove these addresses from their mailing list, but I don't want to
>>>> have to do that, I want to complain about the company.
>>> This is a "me too". I had the same problem and came to exactly the
>>> same conclusion: there's no way I could find to notify them that one
>>> of their supposedly squeaky-clean customers is sending spam. I'm
>>> pushing their score down to 0 too.
>>
>> No way you could find? look harder guys ;)
>>
>> at the top of www.habeas.com, 'Support', then 'Give Feedback on Habeas
>> Certified Senders' brings you to this page:
>>
>> http://www.habeas.com/en-US/Company_Feedback.php
>>
>> That page says you can also just forward it to complaints /at/
>> habeas.com.
>
> I did find that page, but got hung up on the bit that says, "Please ask
> the Sender to unsubscribe me from this email list. I understand Habeas
> cannot guarantee I will be unsubscribed." Which, in my hurry to get to
> a meetig this morning, made me assume that this was just another
> mechanism to implement unsubscribing, and not a proper complaint procedure.
>
> I will actually report the emails that I have got. But I think I am
> going to disable all the HABEAS rules anyway.
Looking into this more, I have disabled the HABEAS checks altogether
(setting score to 0). I did consider the suggestions about lowering the
impact by setting the score to -0.5 or similar, but actually I don't
like the concept of this service, and I would rather save the bandwidth
and not do the checks altogether.
Thanks to everyone for their comments.
--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free & University College Medical School
WWW: http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
Study at CHIME in 2008. http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/study-health-informatics/
Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI
Posted by Anthony Peacock <a....@chime.ucl.ac.uk>.
Hi Justin,
Justin Mason wrote:
> Jason Haar writes:
>> Anthony Peacock wrote:
>>> I have had a look around the http://www.habeas.com/ website and can't
>>> really see how to check the company in question, or make a complaint.
>>> There is a form for asking them to ask the company to remove these
>>> addresses from their mailing list, but I don't want to have to do
>>> that, I want to complain about the company.
>> This is a "me too". I had the same problem and came to exactly the same
>> conclusion: there's no way I could find to notify them that one of their
>> supposedly squeaky-clean customers is sending spam. I'm pushing their
>> score down to 0 too.
>
> No way you could find? look harder guys ;)
>
> at the top of www.habeas.com, 'Support', then 'Give Feedback on Habeas
> Certified Senders' brings you to this page:
>
> http://www.habeas.com/en-US/Company_Feedback.php
>
> That page says you can also just forward it to complaints /at/ habeas.com.
I did find that page, but got hung up on the bit that says, "Please ask
the Sender to unsubscribe me from this email list. I understand Habeas
cannot guarantee I will be unsubscribed." Which, in my hurry to get to
a meetig this morning, made me assume that this was just another
mechanism to implement unsubscribing, and not a proper complaint procedure.
I will actually report the emails that I have got. But I think I am
going to disable all the HABEAS rules anyway.
>
> 'HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI' is supposed to require confirmed opt-in. They
> should LART these senders with a big stick.
Agreed!
--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free & University College Medical School
WWW: http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
Study at CHIME in 2008. http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/study-health-informatics/