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[tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
What is our goal with the tiles2 documentation webapp? I began moving
it to Maven2 but quickly realized that it actually has several struts1
dependencies and is fairly closely tied to it. What's interesting is
that several of the jsps me
Does everyone agree we should migrate it over to tiles2 and remove all
dependencies on struts?
David
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org>.
David H. DeWolf ha scritto:
> What's interesting is that several of the defs actually refer to the
> 2.0 dtd even though it's using tiles/struts 1.
That was my fault, I replaced all the references from DTD 1.1 to DTD 2.0.
>
>>>
>>> Does everyone agree we should migrate it over to tiles2 and remove all
>>> dependencies on struts?
>>
>> I don't think anyone is particularly attached to it. It could turn
>> into tiles-showcase or something else entirely. The documentation is
>> now on the website (and can be included in the eventual release
>> distribution) so there's no need to have a webapp called
>> documentation.
>>
>> If you have the time and energy to work on it, go right ahead!
>>
> Okie. I think Antonio put has been doing some things with it
> recently. . .so I'll wait for his response and then move forward.
Well what I have done is not exactly a forward to Tiles 2.0, all the
code of tiles-documentation needs to be translated to work. Now it is
only "correct" in a legal sense, i.e. licenses are put in the correct place.
The problem is that tiles-documentation is made of a tutorial plus live
examples, maybe we should move the static part to xdocs and the dynamic
part to the tiles-test (or showcase).
Ciao
Antonio
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by "David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>.
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> What is our goal with the tiles2 documentation webapp? I began moving
>> it to Maven2 but quickly realized that it actually has several struts1
>> dependencies and is fairly closely tied to it. What's interesting is
>> that several of the jsps me
Yikes, what happened there. . nothing like sentence fragment that makes
not sense. What I meant to say was . . .
What's interesting is that several of the defs actually refer to the 2.0
dtd even though it's using tiles/struts 1.
>>
>> Does everyone agree we should migrate it over to tiles2 and remove all
>> dependencies on struts?
>
> I don't think anyone is particularly attached to it. It could turn
> into tiles-showcase or something else entirely. The documentation is
> now on the website (and can be included in the eventual release
> distribution) so there's no need to have a webapp called
> documentation.
>
> If you have the time and energy to work on it, go right ahead!
>
Okie. I think Antonio put has been doing some things with it recently.
. .so I'll wait for his response and then move forward.
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
> What is our goal with the tiles2 documentation webapp? I began moving
> it to Maven2 but quickly realized that it actually has several struts1
> dependencies and is fairly closely tied to it. What's interesting is
> that several of the jsps me
>
> Does everyone agree we should migrate it over to tiles2 and remove all
> dependencies on struts?
I don't think anyone is particularly attached to it. It could turn
into tiles-showcase or something else entirely. The documentation is
now on the website (and can be included in the eventual release
distribution) so there's no need to have a webapp called
documentation.
If you have the time and energy to work on it, go right ahead!
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 24, 2006, at 1:39 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote:
> But the documentation app is, in fact, a showcase, except of some
> static docs (that can be moved to xdocs), so from my POV it is
> easier to adapt it to be showcase than to create a new showcase app
> from scratch.
Ok, I'm cool with that.
Greg
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/24/06, Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> But the documentation app is, in fact, a showcase, except of some static
> docs (that can be moved to xdocs), so from my POV it is easier to adapt
> it to be showcase than to create a new showcase app from scratch.
Tiles isn't that big, one example app (not documentation) should be
plenty. There's no reason to keep the tests separate-- in fact the
showcase app itself will need tests.
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org>.
Greg Reddin ha scritto:
>
> On Nov 23, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote:
>
>> I don't know, my POV is that tiles-test could be used for all tests,
>> even the simplest ones. For example, one day a user notices a strange
>> effect on a tag and opens a JIRA issue, so we resolve it and put a
>> Selenium test case. Adding this test case to the showcase would be
>> unuseful for the user.
>> I think that tiles-documentation (or tiles-showcase) will be a nice
>> way to learn Tiles by examples, and it should not be tainted with
>> test cases.
>
> That's a good point. If we want to go that route then I'd propose
> that we build a separate showcase app instead of trying to make the
> documentation app fit it.
But the documentation app is, in fact, a showcase, except of some static
docs (that can be moved to xdocs), so from my POV it is easier to adapt
it to be showcase than to create a new showcase app from scratch.
Antonio
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 23, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote:
> I don't know, my POV is that tiles-test could be used for all
> tests, even the simplest ones. For example, one day a user notices
> a strange effect on a tag and opens a JIRA issue, so we resolve it
> and put a Selenium test case. Adding this test case to the showcase
> would be unuseful for the user.
> I think that tiles-documentation (or tiles-showcase) will be a nice
> way to learn Tiles by examples, and it should not be tainted with
> test cases.
That's a good point. If we want to go that route then I'd propose
that we build a separate showcase app instead of trying to make the
documentation app fit it.
Greg
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org>.
Ted Husted ha scritto:
> Showcase is a flexible format. A good approach would be to have a full
> set of Selenium tests for a tiles showcase. One of the showcase
> packages could also be a test suite, so we could have both in the same
> application. In Struts 1, the "taglib exercises" application is a test
> suite, it is also a good way to learn how the tag works, and we made
> it a module with other example applications. All test cases are
> examples and learning tools.
I see, so maybe the "tiles-test" webapp could be a subsection of
tiles-showcase (that probably will be the new name of tiles-documentation).
Thank you
Antonio
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Showcase is a flexible format. A good approach would be to have a full
set of Selenium tests for a tiles showcase. One of the showcase
packages could also be a test suite, so we could have both in the same
application. In Struts 1, the "taglib exercises" application is a test
suite, it is also a good way to learn how the tag works, and we made
it a module with other example applications. All test cases are
examples and learning tools.
-Ted.
On 11/23/06, Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> David H. DeWolf ha scritto:
> > I actually agree, though there was discussion about making it a
> > "showcase". My preference would be to let the selenium test webapp be
> > our showcase. No reason to have 2 instances.
> >
> > Antonio?
>
> I don't know, my POV is that tiles-test could be used for all tests,
> even the simplest ones. For example, one day a user notices a strange
> effect on a tag and opens a JIRA issue, so we resolve it and put a
> Selenium test case. Adding this test case to the showcase would be
> unuseful for the user.
> I think that tiles-documentation (or tiles-showcase) will be a nice way
> to learn Tiles by examples, and it should not be tainted with test cases.
>
> Ciao
> Antonio
>
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <ap...@apache.org>.
David H. DeWolf ha scritto:
> I actually agree, though there was discussion about making it a
> "showcase". My preference would be to let the selenium test webapp be
> our showcase. No reason to have 2 instances.
>
> Antonio?
I don't know, my POV is that tiles-test could be used for all tests,
even the simplest ones. For example, one day a user notices a strange
effect on a tag and opens a JIRA issue, so we resolve it and put a
Selenium test case. Adding this test case to the showcase would be
unuseful for the user.
I think that tiles-documentation (or tiles-showcase) will be a nice way
to learn Tiles by examples, and it should not be tainted with test cases.
Ciao
Antonio
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
> I actually agree, though there was discussion about making it a
> "showcase". My preference would be to let the selenium test webapp be
> our showcase. No reason to have 2 instances.
Fine with me, but let's rename it from tiles-test... maybe
tiles-showcase or tiles-examples?
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by "David H. DeWolf" <dd...@apache.org>.
Greg Reddin wrote:
>
> On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:48 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
>
>> What is our goal with the tiles2 documentation webapp?
>
> To remove it :-)
>
> I began the process of extracting the main points from the doc and moved
> them into the Tiles 1.x doc that is currently published. I never was
> convinced that I combed it for all the info needed, but eventually I
> hope the Tiles doc will be complete and we can get rid of this app.
I actually agree, though there was discussion about making it a
"showcase". My preference would be to let the selenium test webapp be
our showcase. No reason to have 2 instances.
Antonio?
David
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [tiles2] tiles-documentation/showcase app
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:48 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
> What is our goal with the tiles2 documentation webapp?
To remove it :-)
I began the process of extracting the main points from the doc and
moved them into the Tiles 1.x doc that is currently published. I
never was convinced that I combed it for all the info needed, but
eventually I hope the Tiles doc will be complete and we can get rid
of this app.
Greg
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