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Posted to dev@curator.apache.org by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com> on 2013/08/12 00:01:38 UTC
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change Luciano's -1 to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me. That could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to @general (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait. I'll remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't see any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to @general but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two mentors.
I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
-JZ
On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for everyone's thoughtful responses on this. In retrospect, my
>> initial reply was over the top and I apologize for that. It sounds like we
>> have some agreement here. I'll cancel the current graduation vote, Ioannis
>> will handle the next release, and then I'll submit a new vote.
>>
>> -Jordan
>>
>>
> I think you can leave this vote open, and once the release is done and a
> new committer is added from a different committer I can just turn my vote
> to a +1...
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>.
Take a look at this section:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
and the next "Preparing a Charter" (etc...)
Patrick
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jordan Zimmerman
<jo...@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> Do we create the resolution now or after the general@ vote? The Incubator website isn't very clear. i.e. do I just start a similar vote to the one we just had or is it different and, if so, in what ways?
>
> -JZ
>
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> I assume now I close the vote and move it to general@, right?
>>>
>>> -Jordan
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
Do we create the resolution now or after the general@ vote? The Incubator website isn't very clear. i.e. do I just start a similar vote to the one we just had or is it different and, if so, in what ways?
-JZ
On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> I assume now I close the vote and move it to general@, right?
>>
>> -Jordan
>>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> I assume now I close the vote and move it to general@, right?
>
> -Jordan
>
Yes.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
Thank you.
I assume now I close the vote and move it to general@, right?
-Jordan
On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm OK with the current set of mentors becoming part of the PMC. How does
>> this work, though? Is there a vote on this?
>>
>>
> Not necessarily, can be part of the discussion of the Project Resolution.
>
> Based on this, I'm changing my vote to +1 for Graduation.
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> I'm OK with the current set of mentors becoming part of the PMC. How does
> this work, though? Is there a vote on this?
>
>
Not necessarily, can be part of the discussion of the Project Resolution.
Based on this, I'm changing my vote to +1 for Graduation.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
I'm OK with the current set of mentors becoming part of the PMC. How does this work, though? Is there a vote on this?
-JZ
On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> My reading of the Incubator graduation process suggested we have the vote,
>> then draft a resolution. Also, I don't see where it describes how the PMC
>> is nominated. Can you point me (or describe) to the docs for this?
>>
>> -JZ
>>
>
> Basically the PPMC becomes the TLP project PMC with mentors
> being discretionary. Having said that, if the mentors are going to be part
> of the PMC, which they would provide any additional oversight on the
> community aspects of the project, I'd be changing my vote to support the
> Curator graduation now.
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> My reading of the Incubator graduation process suggested we have the vote,
> then draft a resolution. Also, I don't see where it describes how the PMC
> is nominated. Can you point me (or describe) to the docs for this?
>
> -JZ
>
Basically the PPMC becomes the TLP project PMC with mentors
being discretionary. Having said that, if the mentors are going to be part
of the PMC, which they would provide any additional oversight on the
community aspects of the project, I'd be changing my vote to support the
Curator graduation now.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
My reading of the Incubator graduation process suggested we have the vote, then draft a resolution. Also, I don't see where it describes how the PMC is nominated. Can you point me (or describe) to the docs for this?
-JZ
On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like we are getting consensus around graduation. As we haven't seen a
> draft resolution yet, who are the members that are going to be part of the
> PMC ?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:18 AM, Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Back from a long break.
>>>
>>> With the release and commit activity from Ioannis, I am much more
>> confident
>>> about the future of the project than in July. I would like to change my
>>> vote to +1, given that there is strong belief from active committers that
>>> this will provide a better infrastructure for the project.
>>>
>>> Feel free to start a VOTE on incubator-general with a link to this
>> thread.
>>>
>>> Enis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any other comments? Mentors? Luciano had a reply but no other mentors.
>>>>
>>>> -JZ
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
>>>>>
>>>>> More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
>>>>> missing, its the activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>>>>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change
>>>> Luciano's -1
>>>>>>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than
>> me.
>>>> That
>>>>>>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to
>>>> @general
>>>>>>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait.
>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release
>> which
>>>>>>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't
>>>> see
>>>>>>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to
>>>> @general
>>>>>>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two
>>>> mentors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -JZ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value
>>>> community
>>>>>> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release
>>>> and
>>>>>> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
>>>>>> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
>>>>>> community around the Apache Curator code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take
>> to
>>>> get
>>>>>> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest
>> from
>>>> the
>>>>>> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
>>>>>> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you
>>>> think
>>>>>> it's better for you and for the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Luciano Resende
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>>>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ioannis Canellos
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
>>>>> Twitter: iocanel
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Looks like we are getting consensus around graduation. As we haven't seen a
draft resolution yet, who are the members that are going to be part of the
PMC ?
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> Thank you!
>
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:18 AM, Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Back from a long break.
> >
> > With the release and commit activity from Ioannis, I am much more
> confident
> > about the future of the project than in July. I would like to change my
> > vote to +1, given that there is strong belief from active committers that
> > this will provide a better infrastructure for the project.
> >
> > Feel free to start a VOTE on incubator-general with a link to this
> thread.
> >
> > Enis
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> > jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Any other comments? Mentors? Luciano had a reply but no other mentors.
> >>
> >> -JZ
> >>
> >> On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
> >>>
> >>> More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
> >>> missing, its the activity.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> >>>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change
> >> Luciano's -1
> >>>>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than
> me.
> >> That
> >>>>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to
> >> @general
> >>>>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait.
> >> I'll
> >>>>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release
> which
> >>>>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't
> >> see
> >>>>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to
> >> @general
> >>>>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two
> >> mentors.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -JZ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value
> >> community
> >>>> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release
> >> and
> >>>> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
> >>>> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
> >>>> community around the Apache Curator code.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take
> to
> >> get
> >>>> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest
> from
> >> the
> >>>> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
> >>>> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
> >>>>
> >>>> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you
> >> think
> >>>> it's better for you and for the project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Luciano Resende
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >>>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ioannis Canellos
> >>>
> >>> Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
> >>> Twitter: iocanel
> >>
> >>
>
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
Thank you!
On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:18 AM, Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Back from a long break.
>
> With the release and commit activity from Ioannis, I am much more confident
> about the future of the project than in July. I would like to change my
> vote to +1, given that there is strong belief from active committers that
> this will provide a better infrastructure for the project.
>
> Feel free to start a VOTE on incubator-general with a link to this thread.
>
> Enis
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> Any other comments? Mentors? Luciano had a reply but no other mentors.
>>
>> -JZ
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
>>>
>>> More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
>>> missing, its the activity.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change
>> Luciano's -1
>>>>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me.
>> That
>>>>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to
>> @general
>>>>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait.
>> I'll
>>>>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which
>>>>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't
>> see
>>>>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to
>> @general
>>>>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two
>> mentors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> -JZ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value
>> community
>>>> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release
>> and
>>>> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
>>>> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
>>>> community around the Apache Curator code.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take to
>> get
>>>> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest from
>> the
>>>> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
>>>> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
>>>>
>>>> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you
>> think
>>>> it's better for you and for the project.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Luciano Resende
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>>>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ioannis Canellos
>>>
>>> Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: iocanel
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Enis Söztutar <en...@gmail.com>.
Back from a long break.
With the release and commit activity from Ioannis, I am much more confident
about the future of the project than in July. I would like to change my
vote to +1, given that there is strong belief from active committers that
this will provide a better infrastructure for the project.
Feel free to start a VOTE on incubator-general with a link to this thread.
Enis
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> Any other comments? Mentors? Luciano had a reply but no other mentors.
>
> -JZ
>
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
> >
> > More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
> > missing, its the activity.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> >> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change
> Luciano's -1
> >>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me.
> That
> >>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to
> @general
> >>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait.
> I'll
> >>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which
> >>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't
> see
> >>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to
> @general
> >>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two
> mentors.
> >>>
> >>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> -JZ
> >>>
> >>>
> >> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value
> community
> >> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release
> and
> >> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
> >> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
> >> community around the Apache Curator code.
> >>
> >> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take to
> get
> >> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest from
> the
> >> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
> >> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
> >>
> >> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you
> think
> >> it's better for you and for the project.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> --
> >> Luciano Resende
> >> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ioannis Canellos
> >
> > Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
> > Twitter: iocanel
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
Any other comments? Mentors? Luciano had a reply but no other mentors.
-JZ
On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
>
> More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
> missing, its the activity.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change Luciano's -1
>>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me. That
>>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to @general
>>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait. I'll
>>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which
>>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't see
>>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to @general
>>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two mentors.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
>>>
>>> -JZ
>>>
>>>
>> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value community
>> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release and
>> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
>> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
>> community around the Apache Curator code.
>>
>> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take to get
>> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest from the
>> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
>> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
>>
>> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you think
>> it's better for you and for the project.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> --
> Ioannis Canellos
>
> Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
> Twitter: iocanel
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com>.
Typically, we have all we need in order to graduate.
More committers are always welcome, but its not the numbers we are
missing, its the activity.
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
> jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>
>> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change Luciano's -1
>> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me. That
>> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to @general
>> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait. I'll
>> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which
>> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't see
>> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to @general
>> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two mentors.
>>
>> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
>>
>> -JZ
>>
>>
> To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value community
> over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release and
> follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
> community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
> community around the Apache Curator code.
>
> Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take to get
> a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest from the
> community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
> mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
>
> As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you think
> it's better for you and for the project.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Curator from Apache Incubator
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
jordan@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
> So, Ioannis has done a successful release. In order to change Luciano's -1
> to a 1 we need to get a committer proposed from someone other than me. That
> could take a long time. Either I close the vote now and take it to @general
> (with Luciano's -1 and Ennis's +0) or I cancel the vote and we wait. I'll
> remind this list that we just sat through another 6+ day release which
> could have been done in 1/2 that time if we were TLP. For me, I don't see
> any value in staying in Incubator. I'd like to take the vote to @general
> but I'm concerned about our success given the +0 and -1 from two mentors.
>
> I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts.
>
> -JZ
>
>
To me, one of the things about "The Apache Way" is that we value community
over code. When I requested someone other then Jordan to do a release and
follow the committer process I wanted to make sure that others on the
community were familiar and able to get releases out and build the
community around the Apache Curator code.
Also, I'm not sure why you have concerns with the time it might take to get
a new committer onboard to the project, as I see a lot of interest from the
community to the Apache Curator project, so it might be a matter of
mentoring and nurturing existing contributors to become committers.
As for submitting this to @general, please feel free to do what you think
it's better for you and for the project.
Regards
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Luciano Resende
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