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Posted to dev@zeppelin.apache.org by Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com> on 2019/02/26 02:18:17 UTC

Windows Supports

Hi Dev and Users,

Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows'
environments.

I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.

AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers
or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing
bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.

WDYT?

JL

-- 
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Felix Cheung <fe...@hotmail.com>.
Testing on windows can also be done as CI on appveyer.

I don’t completely get your comment on .cmd file though. Are you suggesting we don’t support windows and users can “run on windows” by basically running Linux in a virtual environment? Docker is one and there is Linux on Windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10


________________________________
From: Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:29 PM
To: dev; users
Subject: Windows Supports

Hi Dev and Users,

Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows'
environments.

I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.

AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers
or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing
bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.

WDYT?

JL

--
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>.
@Felix,
I'd love that someone helps to set Appveyer. :-)

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:33 AM Felix Cheung <fe...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok but was the point about appveyer as CI. It’s not hard to setup.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:12 PM
> *To:* users
> *Subject:* Re: Windows Supports
>
> @Felix
> What I meant was the case that running Zeppelin in the Windows environment
> natively without a docker and a virtual Linux environment. People could run
> Zeppelin through these kinds of ways but in the case where they run
> Zeppelin natively, we didn't test that case and couldn't know the potential
> problems as well. We could guide to use a docker container or virtual Linux
> environment by default for Windows users instead of using native scripts.
>
> @Jeff,
> I also thought of running interpreters in Windows. I don't think it's easy
> to set up CI for windows.
>
> Basically, I agree with that the best way is to support Windows well. But
> the more important thing is to keep Window users' UX. WDYT?
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:53 AM Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the issue is about running spark interpreter in windows. This is
>> due to some script changes in interpreter launch script interpreter.sh, but
>> it is not applied in interpreter.cmd. We could still support windows by
>> fixing this issue, but I don't have time on this right now. I would be very
>> appreciated if someone else can help on this, and also set up CI in
>> appveyer
>>
>> Thomas Bernhardt <be...@yahoo.com> 于2019年2月26日周二 下午8:12写道:
>>
>>> We had no trouble running 0.8.0 on Windows 10 professional. We even set
>>> up authentication. Maybe our case is special however since we don't use any
>>> of the provided interpreters and only have an own interpreter.
>>> -Tom
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019, 9:29:14 PM EST, Jongyoul Lee <
>>> jongyoul@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Dev and Users,
>>>
>>> Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under
>>> Windows' environments.
>>>
>>> I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by
>>> committers or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about
>>> removing bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> --
>>> 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
>>> http://madeng.net
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Jeff Zhang
>>
>
>
> --
> 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
> http://madeng.net
>


-- 
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Felix Cheung <fe...@hotmail.com>.
Ok but was the point about appveyer as CI. It’s not hard to setup.


________________________________
From: Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:12 PM
To: users
Subject: Re: Windows Supports

@Felix
What I meant was the case that running Zeppelin in the Windows environment natively without a docker and a virtual Linux environment. People could run Zeppelin through these kinds of ways but in the case where they run Zeppelin natively, we didn't test that case and couldn't know the potential problems as well. We could guide to use a docker container or virtual Linux environment by default for Windows users instead of using native scripts.

@Jeff,
I also thought of running interpreters in Windows. I don't think it's easy to set up CI for windows.

Basically, I agree with that the best way is to support Windows well. But the more important thing is to keep Window users' UX. WDYT?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:53 AM Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think the issue is about running spark interpreter in windows. This is due to some script changes in interpreter launch script interpreter.sh, but it is not applied in interpreter.cmd. We could still support windows by fixing this issue, but I don't have time on this right now. I would be very appreciated if someone else can help on this, and also set up CI in appveyer

Thomas Bernhardt <be...@yahoo.com>> 于2019年2月26日周二 下午8:12写道:
We had no trouble running 0.8.0 on Windows 10 professional. We even set up authentication. Maybe our case is special however since we don't use any of the provided interpreters and only have an own interpreter.
-Tom

On Monday, February 25, 2019, 9:29:14 PM EST, Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Dev and Users,

Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows' environments.

I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.

AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.

WDYT?

JL

--
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net


--
Best Regards

Jeff Zhang


--
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>.
@Felix
What I meant was the case that running Zeppelin in the Windows environment
natively without a docker and a virtual Linux environment. People could run
Zeppelin through these kinds of ways but in the case where they run
Zeppelin natively, we didn't test that case and couldn't know the potential
problems as well. We could guide to use a docker container or virtual Linux
environment by default for Windows users instead of using native scripts.

@Jeff,
I also thought of running interpreters in Windows. I don't think it's easy
to set up CI for windows.

Basically, I agree with that the best way is to support Windows well. But
the more important thing is to keep Window users' UX. WDYT?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:53 AM Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the issue is about running spark interpreter in windows. This is
> due to some script changes in interpreter launch script interpreter.sh, but
> it is not applied in interpreter.cmd. We could still support windows by
> fixing this issue, but I don't have time on this right now. I would be very
> appreciated if someone else can help on this, and also set up CI in
> appveyer
>
> Thomas Bernhardt <be...@yahoo.com> 于2019年2月26日周二 下午8:12写道:
>
>> We had no trouble running 0.8.0 on Windows 10 professional. We even set
>> up authentication. Maybe our case is special however since we don't use any
>> of the provided interpreters and only have an own interpreter.
>> -Tom
>>
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019, 9:29:14 PM EST, Jongyoul Lee <
>> jongyoul@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Dev and Users,
>>
>> Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows'
>> environments.
>>
>> I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.
>>
>> AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers
>> or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing
>> bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> JL
>>
>> --
>> 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
>> http://madeng.net
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Jeff Zhang
>


-- 
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>.
I think the issue is about running spark interpreter in windows. This is
due to some script changes in interpreter launch script interpreter.sh, but
it is not applied in interpreter.cmd. We could still support windows by
fixing this issue, but I don't have time on this right now. I would be very
appreciated if someone else can help on this, and also set up CI in
appveyer

Thomas Bernhardt <be...@yahoo.com> 于2019年2月26日周二 下午8:12写道:

> We had no trouble running 0.8.0 on Windows 10 professional. We even set up
> authentication. Maybe our case is special however since we don't use any of
> the provided interpreters and only have an own interpreter.
> -Tom
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2019, 9:29:14 PM EST, Jongyoul Lee <
> jongyoul@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dev and Users,
>
> Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows'
> environments.
>
> I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.
>
> AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers
> or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing
> bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.
>
> WDYT?
>
> JL
>
> --
> 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
> http://madeng.net
>


-- 
Best Regards

Jeff Zhang

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Thomas Bernhardt <be...@yahoo.com>.
 We had no trouble running 0.8.0 on Windows 10 professional. We even set up authentication. Maybe our case is special however since we don't use any of the provided interpreters and only have an own interpreter.
-Tom

    On Monday, February 25, 2019, 9:29:14 PM EST, Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi Dev and Users,
Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows' environments.
I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.
AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.
WDYT?
JL
-- 
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net

Re: Windows Supports

Posted by Felix Cheung <fe...@hotmail.com>.
Testing on windows can also be done as CI on appveyer.

I don’t completely get your comment on .cmd file though. Are you suggesting we don’t support windows and users can “run on windows” by basically running Linux in a virtual environment? Docker is one and there is Linux on Windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10


________________________________
From: Jongyoul Lee <jo...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:29 PM
To: dev; users
Subject: Windows Supports

Hi Dev and Users,

Recently, personally, I've got reports that Z couldn't run under Windows'
environments.

I think we need to discuss how to handle issues supporting windows.

AFAIK, there are not many resources to test Z under Windows by committers
or contributors. If we couldn't support Windows well, how about removing
bin/*.cmd and focusing on alternatives like dockers.

WDYT?

JL

--
이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈
http://madeng.net