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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> on 2007/03/04 21:50:36 UTC

Re: archetype was: svn commit: r514184 - /maven/sandbox/trunk/archetype/

On 04/03/2007, at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> You might want to sync up with raphael over in mojo where he's  
> taking a swing at a new version of archetype.

Raphael - can you tell us what is happening over here? (Pretty sure  
you're still subscribed). Wendy's asked me to look at something, and  
I'd be happy to, but I don't want to later find out the work is  
irrelevant if I do it here.

My 2 questions would be:
a) is this an evolution or a revolution? ie, would rapid application  
of patches here be appropriate, or is it a compatibility-breaking  
attempt at making it work from scratch?
b) is the intent to bring it back here when it's done?

Personally, I find this a little weird. If it ever intends to come  
back here we should be discussing it here now. If it's not, then we  
might as well carry on as is, right? I just need to know which it is  
so I don't waste any time.

> He doesn't have access at Apache so he's doing it at Mojo.

That's lame. If it's something we want here, we should find a way to  
do it. I'd elect a committer based on past work and ability to state  
what he was going to do clearly here. Or something else, including  
using mojo as a scratch space, as long as everyone clearly  
understands what's going on.

- Brett

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Re: [vote-result] archetype was: svn commit: r514184 - /maven/sandbox/trunk/archetype/

Posted by Raphaël <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
To answer quickly, 

It is a revolution (little).
The code is at the mojo sandbox for now (mojo-sandbox/maven-archetypeng).
I just uploaded a first snapshot at the mojo's snapshot repository
I sent a mail on dev@mojo to start havign some feedback.
Please have try on it and review the code.
mvn archetypeng:generate
I am sorry but documentation is not yet written.

Will be happy to have the code reach the apache foundation.

Best regards Raphaël



Jason van Zyl-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4 Mar 07, at 12:50 PM 4 Mar 07, Brett Porter wrote:
> 
>> On 04/03/2007, at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> You might want to sync up with raphael over in mojo where he's  
>>> taking a swing at a new version of archetype.
>>
>> Raphael - can you tell us what is happening over here? (Pretty sure  
>> you're still subscribed). Wendy's asked me to look at something,  
>> and I'd be happy to, but I don't want to later find out the work is  
>> irrelevant if I do it here.
>>
>> My 2 questions would be:
>> a) is this an evolution or a revolution? ie, would rapid  
>> application of patches here be appropriate, or is it a  
>> compatibility-breaking attempt at making it work from scratch?
>> b) is the intent to bring it back here when it's done?
>>
>> Personally, I find this a little weird. If it ever intends to come  
>> back here we should be discussing it here now.
> 
> The intention is if he's happy with it, and can be slotted in then  
> great. He's not even finished but working and might want to offer  
> something. I suggested Wendy look at and decide what she think is  
> better to hack on. If it works I am happy to suggest it be moved here.
> 
>> If it's not, then we might as well carry on as is, right? I just  
>> need to know which it is so I don't waste any time.
>>
>>> He doesn't have access at Apache so he's doing it at Mojo.
>>
>> That's lame.
> 
> It's not lame, it's what we have always been doing. He's  
> experimenting, he wanted somewhere to put it and he has access. I  
> don't see how that is lame.
> 
>> If it's something we want here, we should find a way to do it. I'd  
>> elect a committer based on past work and ability to state what he  
>> was going to do clearly here. Or something else, including using  
>> mojo as a scratch space, as long as everyone clearly understands  
>> what's going on.
> 
> What he's working on is a prototype. He's trying to create a  
> replacement, and there's nothing wrong with him making the prototype  
> there. I pointed it out to Wendy so she knew. No one has touched the  
> code in quite a while, he's interested in working on it. He's got  
> access, he started right away, let him run with it. Absolutely  
> nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with him being a committer  
> either but while he wants to hack away let him work on it where he can.
> 
> Jason.
> 
>>
>> - Brett
>>
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Re: archetype was: svn commit: r514184 - /maven/sandbox/trunk/archetype/

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On 4 Mar 07, at 12:50 PM 4 Mar 07, Brett Porter wrote:

> On 04/03/2007, at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>> You might want to sync up with raphael over in mojo where he's  
>> taking a swing at a new version of archetype.
>
> Raphael - can you tell us what is happening over here? (Pretty sure  
> you're still subscribed). Wendy's asked me to look at something,  
> and I'd be happy to, but I don't want to later find out the work is  
> irrelevant if I do it here.
>
> My 2 questions would be:
> a) is this an evolution or a revolution? ie, would rapid  
> application of patches here be appropriate, or is it a  
> compatibility-breaking attempt at making it work from scratch?
> b) is the intent to bring it back here when it's done?
>
> Personally, I find this a little weird. If it ever intends to come  
> back here we should be discussing it here now.

The intention is if he's happy with it, and can be slotted in then  
great. He's not even finished but working and might want to offer  
something. I suggested Wendy look at and decide what she think is  
better to hack on. If it works I am happy to suggest it be moved here.

> If it's not, then we might as well carry on as is, right? I just  
> need to know which it is so I don't waste any time.
>
>> He doesn't have access at Apache so he's doing it at Mojo.
>
> That's lame.

It's not lame, it's what we have always been doing. He's  
experimenting, he wanted somewhere to put it and he has access. I  
don't see how that is lame.

> If it's something we want here, we should find a way to do it. I'd  
> elect a committer based on past work and ability to state what he  
> was going to do clearly here. Or something else, including using  
> mojo as a scratch space, as long as everyone clearly understands  
> what's going on.

What he's working on is a prototype. He's trying to create a  
replacement, and there's nothing wrong with him making the prototype  
there. I pointed it out to Wendy so she knew. No one has touched the  
code in quite a while, he's interested in working on it. He's got  
access, he started right away, let him run with it. Absolutely  
nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with him being a committer  
either but while he wants to hack away let him work on it where he can.

Jason.

>
> - Brett
>
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