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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Johannes Schaefer <jo...@uidesign.de> on 2005/06/07 09:08:20 UTC
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Here you may find all the details about my
presentation on July, 19th (in German, sorry):
http://www.gui-design.de/ak/ak_050719.htm
Have we decided on the schedule, then? (Copy below)
Is there a place to reference with the schedule?
I would like to check back with Peter to make
sure everything's OK with the room and see if we
have network available.
Cheers
Johannes
David Crossley schrieb:
> Johannes Schaefer wrote:
>
>>I will have a presentation about Forrest in German that
>>day (Tue, 19th July), also at the HfT, also starting at
>>19h. Ferdinand wanted to go there, too. This will last
>>for about 1-1.5 hours. I'll check back about the room
>>(I asked for the conference days 20-22, which was OK by
>>Peter).
>
>
> I am very sorry Johannes, that completely slipped my mind.
>
> Is your event open to other other German-speaking people
> or do you want to limit it to your group? I ask because
> we might create an "Events" page at the Forrest website.
>
> Does your meeting usually finish and then people leave?
> If so, then perhaps our project workshop could start
> after that. Anyway, we don't want to put any pressure
> on you or your meeting. So that option is removed below.
>
> On one hand, it would be better for our project workshop
> to be held earlier in the week, preferably before the
> Get Together, so that we have our story straight regarding
> Views and XHTML2 core. (The committers can do some of that
> at the Hackathon during the day on Tuesday.)
>
> On the other hand, later is better because we can have
> a wider audience and also take into account the use-cases
> expressed at the earlier sessions. Another reason for
> doing it later is that the sessions then progress from
> easier topics to more complex.
>
> I now think that we should dispense with the option of an
> ApacheCon Birds of a Feather (BoF) session. I was trying
> to ensure that we don't divert attention away from ApacheCon.
>
> So it seems that we are back to the original plan.
> Here is the current schedule:
>
> ------------------------------------
> Tuesday 19 July
>
> Event: Apache Committers Hackathon
> Time: all day
> Location: ApacheCon
>
> Event: Meeting of usability professionals (Johannes)
> Time: 19:00 until 20:30
> Location: HfT
>
> ------------------------------------
> Wednesday 20 July
>
> Event: ApacheCon Session WE16 (Ross and Ferdinand)
> Time: 14:30 until 15:30
> Location: ApacheCon
>
> Event: Apache Forrest get together
> Time: 20:00 until whenever
> Location: HfT
>
> ------------------------------------
> Thursday 21 July
>
> Event: Apache Forrest project workshop
> Time: 20:00 until whenever
> Location: HfT
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
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David Crossley schrieb:
> Johannes Schaefer wrote:
>
>>David Crossley schrieb:
>>
>>>Is your event open to other other German-speaking people
>>>or do you want to limit it to your group? I ask because
>>>we might create an "Events" page at the Forrest website.
>>
>>It *is* open. It's just an informal meeting of interested
>>people. German speakers can find more information here
>> http://www.gui-design.de/ak/
>>although the July meeting isn't there, yet (And I discovered
>>that it actually starts at 18:30 ;-)
>>
>>
>>>Does your meeting usually finish and then people leave?
>>
>>No. Usually we sit together afterwards to have some beer.
>
>
> Of course, that is the answer that i expected.
>
>
>>>So it seems that we are back to the original plan.
>>>Here is the current schedule:
>>
>>If there's agreement on this schedule, I'll check back with
>>Peter Schaub.
>
>
> Wait until Ferdinand is back tomorrow and until the others verify
> that this is what we want. Thanks again for organising the room.
>
> --David
>
>
--
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Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
David Crossley wrote:
>> Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to
>> Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.
> I have our new "Events" web page almost finished. I will get that
> published too.
If you have already finished the events page, then I won't bother, ok?
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to
> Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.
I have our new "Events" web page almost finished. I will get that
published too.
--David
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Johannes Schaefer <jo...@uidesign.de>.
for tue i already sent a link
for mon and wed we can decide shorthand
Peter said.
js
(leaving office NOW)
David Crossley schrieb:
> Johannes Schaefer wrote:
>
>>I got the OK from Peter for Monday!
>>So, please go ahead with the announcements
>>and "events" page.
>>Johannes
>
>
> Thanks very much to Johannes and Peter.
>
> So that is two events at HfT Monday evening and Wednesday evening,
> plus your usability professionals meeting on Tuesday evening.
>
> Do we know what the room number is and are there directions
> on the HfT website?
>
> --David
>
>
--
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Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
> I got the OK from Peter for Monday!
> So, please go ahead with the announcements
> and "events" page.
> Johannes
Thanks very much to Johannes and Peter.
So that is two events at HfT Monday evening and Wednesday evening,
plus your usability professionals meeting on Tuesday evening.
Do we know what the room number is and are there directions
on the HfT website?
--David
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Johannes Schaefer <jo...@uidesign.de>.
I got the OK from Peter for Monday!
So, please go ahead with the announcements
and "events" page.
Johannes
Johannes Schaefer schrieb:
> I tried to check back with Peter if Monday is
> OK, too. Give me time until tomorrow 12:00 MEST
> to get through to him. Thanks!
> Johannes
>
>
>
>
> Ferdinand Soethe schrieb:
>
>> Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to
>> Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.
>>
>> Ferdinand
>>
>>
>>
>> Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> OK, this all being explained, I now propose to move the views workshop
>>> to Monday night for four reasons:
>>
>>
>>
>>> 1. Nicola Ken will be able to attend
>>> 2. Nobody else came forward that would not be able to attend
>>> 3. Having the views workshop before the Hackathon will allow us to
>>> understand, discuss and work on the views issue on Monday and
>>> perhaps follow this up with some coding and documentation during
>>> the Hackathon.
>>> 4. There were no alternatives proposed to avoid the splitup between
>>> Thursdays Workshop and the Hackathon.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If nobody objects until tomorrow this will be our new schedule!
>>
>>
>>
>>> If somebody does, pls clearly state your if
>>
>>
>>
>>> - you like to stick to the agreed upon schedule
>>> - propose something else that can work within the
>>> constraints mentioned in the discussion before.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
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Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Johannes Schaefer <jo...@uidesign.de>.
I tried to check back with Peter if Monday is
OK, too. Give me time until tomorrow 12:00 MEST
to get through to him. Thanks!
Johannes
Ferdinand Soethe schrieb:
> Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to
> Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.
>
> Ferdinand
>
>
>
> Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
>
>
>
>>OK, this all being explained, I now propose to move the views workshop
>>to Monday night for four reasons:
>
>
>>1. Nicola Ken will be able to attend
>>2. Nobody else came forward that would not be able to attend
>>3. Having the views workshop before the Hackathon will allow us to
>> understand, discuss and work on the views issue on Monday and
>> perhaps follow this up with some coding and documentation during
>> the Hackathon.
>>4. There were no alternatives proposed to avoid the splitup between
>> Thursdays Workshop and the Hackathon.
>
>
>>If nobody objects until tomorrow this will be our new schedule!
>
>
>>If somebody does, pls clearly state your if
>
>
>> - you like to stick to the agreed upon schedule
>> - propose something else that can work within the
>> constraints mentioned in the discussion before.
>
>
>
>
--
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Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to
Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.
Ferdinand
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> OK, this all being explained, I now propose to move the views workshop
> to Monday night for four reasons:
> 1. Nicola Ken will be able to attend
> 2. Nobody else came forward that would not be able to attend
> 3. Having the views workshop before the Hackathon will allow us to
> understand, discuss and work on the views issue on Monday and
> perhaps follow this up with some coding and documentation during
> the Hackathon.
> 4. There were no alternatives proposed to avoid the splitup between
> Thursdays Workshop and the Hackathon.
> If nobody objects until tomorrow this will be our new schedule!
> If somebody does, pls clearly state your if
> - you like to stick to the agreed upon schedule
> - propose something else that can work within the
> constraints mentioned in the discussion before.
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> AFAIK the only one who did was Ross saying that he didn't like the
> idea for personal reasons but would be there if there is a majority
> for it.
Like I said I am -0 on changing the date. However, I agree that there
appears to be no alternative (other than not being able to meet Nicola
Ken, which is no alternative).
This way I get to go to the Cocoon Hackathon anyway.
By the way, thanks for coordinating this Ferdinand, I'm rubbish at doing
this kind of organisation stuff, I prefer to just say here's my
preference do what you have to do. You will find I never complain about
the results though :-) (as long as I get a whiskey at some point).
Ross
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
David Crossley wrote:
>> Have we decided on the schedule, then? (Copy below)
>> Is there a place to reference with the schedule?
> Not yet sorry, I was just about to set up the web page
> late last week. Then people floated the idea about
> changing the schedule again, so i left it. There was
> no more discussion, so i don't know what the status is.
Well, the situation is as follows:
If we stick to the original plan and have the view workshop on
Thursday Nicola Ken won't be able to attend. And even though he was a
bit late in informing us about this, I figured that a lot of people
would like to have him attend that workshop.
The suggested alternative to talk about views 'a bit' at the hackathon
and have the workshop on Thursday did not seem like a good solution to
me because it would split discussions and create a lot of redundancies
if some people attended the Hackathon and others came to the
workshopon Thursday.
So I suggested to move the views workshop forward to Monday night
because there would not competing events and asked people to comment
on their ability to attend and the usefulness of it all.
AFAIK the only one who did was Ross saying that he didn't like the
idea for personal reasons but would be there if there is a majority
for it.
ARGHH!
OK, this all being explained, I now propose to move the views workshop
to Monday night for four reasons:
1. Nicola Ken will be able to attend
2. Nobody else came forward that would not be able to attend
3. Having the views workshop before the Hackathon will allow us to
understand, discuss and work on the views issue on Monday and
perhaps follow this up with some coding and documentation during
the Hackathon.
4. There were no alternatives proposed to avoid the splitup between
Thursdays Workshop and the Hackathon.
If nobody objects until tomorrow this will be our new schedule!
If somebody does, pls clearly state your if
- you like to stick to the agreed upon schedule
- propose something else that can work within the
constraints mentioned in the discussion before.
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Schedule
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
>
> Here you may find all the details about my
> presentation on July, 19th (in German, sorry):
> http://www.gui-design.de/ak/ak_050719.htm
>
> Have we decided on the schedule, then? (Copy below)
> Is there a place to reference with the schedule?
Not yet sorry, I was just about to set up the web page
late last week. Then people floated the idea about
changing the schedule again, so i left it. There was
no more discussion, so i don't know what the status is.
--David
> I would like to check back with Peter to make
> sure everything's OK with the room and see if we
> have network available.
>
> Cheers
> Johannes
>
>
>
>
> David Crossley schrieb:
> > Johannes Schaefer wrote:
> >
> >>I will have a presentation about Forrest in German that
> >>day (Tue, 19th July), also at the HfT, also starting at
> >>19h. Ferdinand wanted to go there, too. This will last
> >>for about 1-1.5 hours. I'll check back about the room
> >>(I asked for the conference days 20-22, which was OK by
> >>Peter).
> >
> >
> > I am very sorry Johannes, that completely slipped my mind.
> >
> > Is your event open to other other German-speaking people
> > or do you want to limit it to your group? I ask because
> > we might create an "Events" page at the Forrest website.
> >
> > Does your meeting usually finish and then people leave?
> > If so, then perhaps our project workshop could start
> > after that. Anyway, we don't want to put any pressure
> > on you or your meeting. So that option is removed below.
> >
> > On one hand, it would be better for our project workshop
> > to be held earlier in the week, preferably before the
> > Get Together, so that we have our story straight regarding
> > Views and XHTML2 core. (The committers can do some of that
> > at the Hackathon during the day on Tuesday.)
> >
> > On the other hand, later is better because we can have
> > a wider audience and also take into account the use-cases
> > expressed at the earlier sessions. Another reason for
> > doing it later is that the sessions then progress from
> > easier topics to more complex.
> >
> > I now think that we should dispense with the option of an
> > ApacheCon Birds of a Feather (BoF) session. I was trying
> > to ensure that we don't divert attention away from ApacheCon.
> >
> > So it seems that we are back to the original plan.
> > Here is the current schedule:
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Tuesday 19 July
> >
> > Event: Apache Committers Hackathon
> > Time: all day
> > Location: ApacheCon
> >
> > Event: Meeting of usability professionals (Johannes)
> > Time: 19:00 until 20:30
> > Location: HfT
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Wednesday 20 July
> >
> > Event: ApacheCon Session WE16 (Ross and Ferdinand)
> > Time: 14:30 until 15:30
> > Location: ApacheCon
> >
> > Event: Apache Forrest get together
> > Time: 20:00 until whenever
> > Location: HfT
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Thursday 21 July
> >
> > Event: Apache Forrest project workshop
> > Time: 20:00 until whenever
> > Location: HfT
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> User Interface Design GmbH * Teinacher Str. 38 * D-71634
> Ludwigsburg
> Fon +49 (0)7141 377 000 * Fax +49 (0)7141 377 00-99
> Gesch?ftsstelle: User Interface Design GmbH *
> Lehrer-G?tz-Weg 11 * D-81825 M?nchen
> www.uidesign.de
>
> Buch "User Interface Tuning" von Joachim Machate & Michael
> Burmester
> www.user-interface-tuning.de
>
> David Crossley schrieb:
> >Johannes Schaefer wrote:
> >
> >>David Crossley schrieb:
> >>
> >>>Is your event open to other other German-speaking people
> >>>or do you want to limit it to your group? I ask because
> >>>we might create an "Events" page at the Forrest website.
> >>
> >>It *is* open. It's just an informal meeting of interested
> >>people. German speakers can find more information here
> >> http://www.gui-design.de/ak/
> >>although the July meeting isn't there, yet (And I discovered
> >>that it actually starts at 18:30 ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>>Does your meeting usually finish and then people leave?
> >>
> >>No. Usually we sit together afterwards to have some beer.
> >
> >
> >Of course, that is the answer that i expected.
> >
> >
> >>>So it seems that we are back to the original plan.
> >>>Here is the current schedule:
> >>
> >>If there's agreement on this schedule, I'll check back with
> >>Peter Schaub.
> >
> >
> >Wait until Ferdinand is back tomorrow and until the others verify
> >that this is what we want. Thanks again for organising the room.
> >
> >--David
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> User Interface Design GmbH * Teinacher Str. 38 * D-71634
> Ludwigsburg
> Fon +49 (0)7141 377 000 * Fax +49 (0)7141 377 00-99
> Gesch?ftsstelle: User Interface Design GmbH *
> Lehrer-G?tz-Weg 11 * D-81825 M?nchen
> www.uidesign.de
>
> Buch "User Interface Tuning" von Joachim Machate & Michael
> Burmester
> www.user-interface-tuning.de