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[Issue 128287] New: Command name and information merged in: Edit
menu and toolbar item's help text
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128287
Issue ID: 128287
Issue Type: DEFECT
Summary: Command name and information merged in: Edit menu and
toolbar item's help text
Product: General
Version: 4.1.7
Hardware: PC
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: Trivial
Priority: P5 (lowest)
Component: ui
Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
Reporter: czeslaw.wolanski@gmail.com
Target Milestone: ---
Created attachment 86831
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case study (4 language examples)
At first I intended to flag my issue as "Language" - Polish. After some test,
due to differences in English, French and German versions, I decided to mark it
as "UI".
Consider three first items of menu "Edit": Undo, Redo, Repeat and their
equivalents on the toolbar.
If user makes changes in document (any of AOO components), relevant information
is displayed:
- on toolbar (as help text if the mouse cursor is above corresponding items'
icon)
- in "Edit" menu after the name of menu item
for example:
Undo: New Paragraph Ctrl + Z
Redo: Typing: 'Dwd' Ctrl + Y
Repeat: Paste Clipboard Ctrl+Shift+Y
Thus one could expect that general format of information is as follows:
<Name of Command><:>< ><Name of operation>
That's true ONLY for English version. French and German versions demonstrate
variations like missing space, additional space or missing colon. Lack of
uniform approach is obvious yet acceptable.
See attached image to grasp the idea.
On the other hand Polish version definitely represents the WORST case for two
reasons:
1. no separating characters at all
Just look at example below (on the left - Polish, on the right - English):
CofnijWklejSchowek Undo: Paste Clipboard
PowtórzWprowadzanie: 'Dwd' Redo: Typing: 'Dwd'
2. inconsistency
"Glued" information occurs in every AOO component (Writer, Calc, Impress,
Draw, Base, Math) with
one surprising exception within Base.
Tabele > Utwórz projekt tabeli... Tables > Create Table
in Design View...
where information is not "glued".
(see attached image - examples in Polish are show on the right side)
No clue what to think of that difference.
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[Issue 128287] Command name and information merged in: Edit menu and
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Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128287
Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Target Milestone|--- |4.2.0
Hardware|PC |All
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--- Comment #4 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
I already corrected that for several other languages...
Thank you for finding this!
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toolbar item's help text
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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128287
Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Resolution|--- |FIXED
Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED
--- Comment #5 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
Fixed in Pootle for Polish, German, French and several other languages.
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[Issue 128287] Command name and information merged in: Edit menu and
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Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128287
--- Comment #3 from czeslaw.wolanski@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Matthias Seidel from comment #2)
> Note:
>
> I now added the missing space (after the colon) in French.
>
> However, all these changes will not become visible in the binaries until we
> have a current export committed back into the code.
>
> So keep an eye on my test builds, I will refresh them every now and then.
Thanks for your thanks!
You shall know that Russian version has no spaces just colon. For example:
Отменa:Вставить or Undo:Paste Clipboard
If Russians are concerned they may report this to Bugzilla, I don't mind...
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--- Comment #2 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
Note:
I now added the missing space (after the colon) in French.
However, all these changes will not become visible in the binaries until we
have a current export committed back into the code.
So keep an eye on my test builds, I will refresh them every now and then.
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Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Ever confirmed|0 |1
CC| |mseidel@apache.org
Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED
--- Comment #1 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
All these strings are defined in the translation.
As we are currently working on AOO 4.2.0 there will be no translation updates
for 4.1.x.
It would be great if you could test your findings against the current
translations:
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Test/
I corrected the missing colon in German (Wiederholen: ) now, thanks!
The extra space before the colon in French is correct:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Non_Breaking_Spaces_Before_Punctuation_In_French_(espaces_ins%C3%A9cables)
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