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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
first few release check.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi community,
>
> It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote tomorrow.
>
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> Huxing
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.
Willem, cannot agree with you any more. It is not a rocket science as you
said. It's in fact just an engineering practice. We will keep improving it
and make sure everyone follows it.
Cheers,
-Ian.
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:46 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm happy to see the common Dubbo release practices could guide other
> incubating project. It's not a rocket science, we just need pay more
> attentions on the first and second around release to setup right
> release procedure and building scripts. Please make sure the team
> member aware of this guide when they doing the release.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:43 PM Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > We have a concrete release guide [1] to guide team to perform an apache
> > release. @adrianfcole tweet this:
> >
> > I am always referencing #dubbo's Apache release guide. It probably needs
> to
> > > move to be..Apache's release guide.
> >
> >
> > But I like your idea of a release manager team. We will have much more
> > Dubbo relevant projects after we finish transferring them from dubbo
> group
> > to ASF. Those who have release experience should take closer eyes in this
> > area, but in my own opinion, we will encourage more committers to take
> > release engineer role, only if they strictly follow Dubbo's release
> guide.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Ian.
> >
> >
> > 1.
> >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/committer-guide/release-guide_dev.html
> >
> > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
> > > could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
> > > following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
> > > Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
> > > first few release check.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi community,
> > > >
> > > > It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> > > > If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote
> > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards！
> > > > Huxing
> > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
I'm happy to see the common Dubbo release practices could guide other
incubating project. It's not a rocket science, we just need pay more
attentions on the first and second around release to setup right
release procedure and building scripts. Please make sure the team
member aware of this guide when they doing the release.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:43 PM Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We have a concrete release guide [1] to guide team to perform an apache
> release. @adrianfcole tweet this:
>
> I am always referencing #dubbo's Apache release guide. It probably needs to
> > move to be..Apache's release guide.
>
>
> But I like your idea of a release manager team. We will have much more
> Dubbo relevant projects after we finish transferring them from dubbo group
> to ASF. Those who have release experience should take closer eyes in this
> area, but in my own opinion, we will encourage more committers to take
> release engineer role, only if they strictly follow Dubbo's release guide.
>
> Regards,
> -Ian.
>
>
> 1.
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/committer-guide/release-guide_dev.html
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
> > could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
> > following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
> > Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
> > first few release check.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi community,
> > >
> > > It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> > > If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote
> > tomorrow.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.
We have a concrete release guide [1] to guide team to perform an apache
release. @adrianfcole tweet this:
I am always referencing #dubbo's Apache release guide. It probably needs to
> move to be..Apache's release guide.
But I like your idea of a release manager team. We will have much more
Dubbo relevant projects after we finish transferring them from dubbo group
to ASF. Those who have release experience should take closer eyes in this
area, but in my own opinion, we will encourage more committers to take
release engineer role, only if they strictly follow Dubbo's release guide.
Regards,
-Ian.
1.
http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/committer-guide/release-guide_dev.html
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
> could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
> following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
> Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
> first few release check.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi community,
> >
> > It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> > If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote
> tomorrow.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, it's a good plan that the experienced PPMC can help other new
project members.
We just need to make sure it's on the good track.
It's good to see Dubbo is near graduation by the way.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:33 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
> > could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
> > following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
>
> I was thinking about this. IMO, the new coming projects will not be
> able to do any releases because the project owners/contributors does
> not have write access to it. However, the PPMC need to keep a close
> eye on the projects and the external repository like npm, pip, docker
> hub, etc. to make sure there is no unapproved releases.
> The Dubbo PPMC will vote them in as committers with standard Apache
> way, after that the PPMC will work with them to make their first
> Apache releases, just like how IPMC help Dubbo to make the releases.
> Because the Dubbo community has conducted 11 releases with 7 release
> managers since incubation, and the release guide is well documented[1]
> with checklist and scripts. I think the Dubbo community has
> demonstrated the ability to make release that complies Apache release
> policy.
> How do you think?
>
> [1] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/blog/prepare-an-apache-release.html
>
> > Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
> > first few release check.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi community,
> > >
> > > It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> > > If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote tomorrow.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> > >
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>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project
Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it
> could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are
> following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this?
I was thinking about this. IMO, the new coming projects will not be
able to do any releases because the project owners/contributors does
not have write access to it. However, the PPMC need to keep a close
eye on the projects and the external repository like npm, pip, docker
hub, etc. to make sure there is no unapproved releases.
The Dubbo PPMC will vote them in as committers with standard Apache
way, after that the PPMC will work with them to make their first
Apache releases, just like how IPMC help Dubbo to make the releases.
Because the Dubbo community has conducted 11 releases with 7 release
managers since incubation, and the release guide is well documented[1]
with checklist and scripts. I think the Dubbo community has
demonstrated the ability to make release that complies Apache release
policy.
How do you think?
[1] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/blog/prepare-an-apache-release.html
> Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the
> first few release check.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:52 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi community,
> >
> > It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared.
> > If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote tomorrow.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >
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