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No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Area we really not even going to do another rule release to provide an
already created fix?

On 05/24, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6552
> 
> Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>          Resolution|                            |FIXED
> 
> --- Comment #20 from Kevin A. McGrail <km...@pccc.com> 2011-05-24 16:00:34 UTC ---
> Closing as irrelevant.  We will not be making a 3.2.X release.
> 
> However, I just checked out 3.2 branch and this appears to be committed.
> 
> KAM
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Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <KM...@PCCC.com>.
>> I consider 3.2 unmaintained and people should be running 3.3.X. I
>> consider a valid cross-over period to maintain both releases but 3.2.x
>> has long since dropped off my radar.
>
> We as a project are being irresponsible by not outright declaring 
> 3.2.x to be unmaintained.
I think that's a bit harsh as we don't claim to maintain ANY version and 
haven't had a release in very nearly 3 years in the 3.2 branch.

Regards,
KAM

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Warren Togami Jr." <wt...@gmail.com>.
On 5/24/2011 11:23 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>> 3.2.x never had auto-rule updates. The 3.3.x updates from trunk was
>> very recent with the release of 3.3.x.
> Good point. I'd forgotten we added that for 3.3. It'
>
> I consider 3.2 unmaintained and people should be running 3.3.X. I
> consider a valid cross-over period to maintain both releases but 3.2.x
> has long since dropped off my radar.

We as a project are being irresponsible by not outright declaring 3.2.x 
to be unmaintained.

Warren

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <KM...@PCCC.com>.
> I'm not sure what you mean?
The status you are asking for of PENDING_RELEASE is technically correct 
for every single bug that is fixed and committed to trunk and/or a branch.

Users have the option to run from SVN so for me, I agree with the bug is 
closed with code is resolved.  When the code is formally packaged into a 
release (or rules update) is a completely separate matter.

> 3.2.x never had auto-rule updates.  The 3.3.x updates from trunk was 
> very recent with the release of 3.3.x.
Good point. I'd forgotten we added that for 3.3.  It'

I consider 3.2 unmaintained and people should be running 3.3.X.  I 
consider a valid cross-over period to maintain both releases but 3.2.x 
has long since dropped off my radar.

Regards,
KAM

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Warren Togami Jr." <wt...@gmail.com>.
On 5/24/2011 11:15 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>
>> I continue to be against considering it fixed in Bugzilla because it
>> is upsetting to users if it isn't pushed live.
>>
>> How about a compromise? Add a new semi-closed state to Bugzilla like
>> PENDING_RELEASE to denote that it is 'fixed' but it isn't pushed to
>> users yet.
> Isn't every bug that is fixed but in svn pending a release in this state?
>

I'm not sure what you mean?

>> But then again, if we really have no intention of pushing a new 3.2
>> rule update, then this should be closed as WONTFIX to denote reality.
> Actually, I just don't know if 3.2 rules are automatically released as
> part of our auto update that's turned off at the moment. I've been
> running 3.3.X for so long that I haven't cared that much about 3.2

3.2.x never had auto-rule updates.  The 3.3.x updates from trunk was 
very recent with the release of 3.3.x.

Warren

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <KM...@PCCC.com>.
> I continue to be against considering it fixed in Bugzilla because it 
> is upsetting to users if it isn't pushed live.
>
> How about a compromise?  Add a new semi-closed state to Bugzilla like 
> PENDING_RELEASE to denote that it is 'fixed' but it isn't pushed to 
> users yet.
Isn't every bug that is fixed but in svn pending a release in this state?

> But then again, if we really have no intention of pushing a new 3.2 
> rule update, then this should be closed as WONTFIX to denote reality.
Actually, I just don't know if 3.2 rules are automatically released as 
part of our auto update that's turned off at the moment.  I've been 
running 3.3.X for so long that I haven't cared that much about 3.2

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Warren Togami Jr." <wt...@gmail.com>.
On 5/24/2011 10:41 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> I don't know if 3.2 releases will be done but the code is committed in
> the 3.2 branch for this bug. So from a code standpoint, it's resolved.

I continue to be against considering it fixed in Bugzilla because it is 
upsetting to users if it isn't pushed live.

How about a compromise?  Add a new semi-closed state to Bugzilla like 
PENDING_RELEASE to denote that it is 'fixed' but it isn't pushed to 
users yet.

But then again, if we really have no intention of pushing a new 3.2 rule 
update, then this should be closed as WONTFIX to denote reality.

Warren Togami
warren@togami.com

Re: No more 3.2 rule releases? Re: [Bug 6552] [review for 3.2] RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP ruleset incorrectly black flagging IP range!!!

Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <KM...@PCCC.com>.
I don't know if 3.2 releases will be done but the code is committed in 
the 3.2 branch for this bug.  So from a code standpoint, it's resolved.

On 5/24/2011 4:31 PM, darxus@chaosreigns.com wrote:
> Area we really not even going to do another rule release to provide an
> already created fix?
>
> On 05/24, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote:
>> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6552
>>
>> Kevin A. McGrail<km...@pccc.com>  changed:
>>
>>             What    |Removed                     |Added
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>               Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>>           Resolution|                            |FIXED
>>
>> --- Comment #20 from Kevin A. McGrail<km...@pccc.com>  2011-05-24 16:00:34 UTC ---
>> Closing as irrelevant.  We will not be making a 3.2.X release.
>>
>> However, I just checked out 3.2 branch and this appears to be committed.
>>
>> KAM
>>
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