RE: Axis and Basic Profile 1.0a

["Wagh, Shrikant" <sh...@hp.com>]

Hello Tony,

If you are interested in validating your WSDL and checking it for WS-I
Basic profile compliance, then WS-I test tool is really good. 
I'll prefer that than MindReef SOAPscope. SOAPscope does not generate
the compliance report but WSI tool does generate a detailed HTML report
which is very useful.

I found that SOAPscope can be a good tool for debugging WSDL, but it not
a good testing tool. It does not support doc-lit services where the
in/out parameter types are defined in the imported XSD, It fails to
generate the request and hence fails to invoke the intended service. I
evaluated SOAPscope 2.0 tool for our testing, but did not serve our
purpose. Does not support parameterization, reporting etc. It has very
very primitive testing functionalities.

Thanks,

Shrikant Wagh
QA Lead, HPP/Eprofile, HP

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson Jonathan [mailto:anderson_jonathan@bah.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:46 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Cc: nelson@monkey.org
Subject: RE: Axis and Basic Profile 1.0a

A really great WS-I WSDL/XSD testing tool is Mindreef SOAPScope
(www.mindreef.com).  We successfully used their 2.0 release to ensure
that
our doc/lit WSDL/XSD was WS-I compliant before running Axis 1.2 alpha
wsdl2java against it.  Their current release, 3.0, touts further WS-I
testing capabilities: integration with the WS-I test suite and automagic
WS-I conformance report generation.  We just got 3.0 in house, however,
and
have yet to play with these new features.

	-Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:33 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Cc: nelson@monkey.org
Subject: Re: Axis and Basic Profile 1.0a


http://www.ws-i.org/implementation.aspx

--- Tony Opatha <to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 1. Which WS-I testing tools can be used to ensure that the WSDL/XSD
are
clean?
>
>
>
> 2. What kinds of test coverage does the WS-I testing tools have for
checking
>
> SOAP request and response messages?

Re: Axis and Basic Profile 1.0a

[Jim Murphy <ji...@pobox.com>]

Sorry to take up bandwidth with this somewhat commercial message but I'd 
just like to make sure the archive is correct.

Wagh, Shrikant wrote:

> Hello Tony,
> 
> If you are interested in validating your WSDL and checking it for WS-I
> Basic profile compliance, then WS-I test tool is really good. 
> I'll prefer that than MindReef SOAPscope. SOAPscope does not generate
> the compliance report but WSI tool does generate a detailed HTML report
> which is very useful.

Not true.  SOAPscope 3.0 includes integration with the WS-I test tools. 
  We make it very easy to invoke the actual WS-I tools themselves and 
you get the native detailed WS-I report as output.  Its the easiest way 
to run the WS-I tools.


> I found that SOAPscope can be a good tool for debugging WSDL, but it not
> a good testing tool. It does not support doc-lit services where the
> in/out parameter types are defined in the imported XSD, It fails to
> generate the request and hence fails to invoke the intended service. I
> evaluated SOAPscope 2.0 tool for our testing, but did not serve our
> purpose. Does not support parameterization, reporting etc. It has very
> very primitive testing functionalities.

Hey cool - but SOAPscope Invoke absolutely works with arbitrary rpc/enc, 
doc/lit and even rpc/lit services.  Also we support wsdl:imports and 
schema:imports/includes.  We have plenty of customers with *very* large 
WSDL document trees using Invoke today.

I'd encourage you to try SOAPscope 3.0 again[1].  There is a free eval 
available.


[1] - http://www.mindreef.com/


Kind regards,

Jim Murphy
Mindreef, Inc.