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July 2015 Report
Greetings, {podling} developers,
The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
reminder text below.
Best,
Marvin Humphrey
---------------
Dear podling,
This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.
The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, July 1st).
Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.
Thanks,
The Apache Incubator PMC
Submitting your Report
----------------------
Your report should contain the following:
* Your project name
* A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
the project or necessarily of its field
* A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
towards graduation.
* Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
aware of
* How has the community developed since the last report
* How has the project developed since the last report.
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.
Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.
Incubator PMC
Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Taylor,
Thanks for your flexibility. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to write the report in time to make the draft report. I think it’s easier for everyone if Calcite reports in August.
I agree with you that late reports should not become a habit. Our previous reports have been filed on schedule.
I also agree with Marvin that it would be desirable to get other Calcite committers involved in the report process so that I am not the single point of failure.
Julian
On Jul 5, 2015, at 4:37 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> I'm okay with a late report. From a shepherds standpoint, the podling report is only part of what needs to be reviewed.
>
> Also I'm usually late with my shepherd reports since the Sunday deadline is somewhat inconvenient due to family, etc., but I always try to get it in by noon eastern time the following day.
>
> I think a late report (24-48 hrs., give or take) is perfectly tolerable on occasion, as long as it doesn't become habitual.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>>
>> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>>>
>>> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
>>> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
>>> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
>>> reminder text below.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> Dear podling,
>>>
>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>>>
>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>>> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>>>
>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>
>>> Submitting your Report
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>
>>> * Your project name
>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>>> the project or necessarily of its field
>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>> towards graduation.
>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>>> aware of
>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>
>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>>>
>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>>> this page is created from a template.
>>>
>>> Mentors
>>> -------
>>>
>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
>>> for the Incubator PMC.
>>>
>>> Incubator PMC
>>
Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Taylor,
Thanks for your flexibility. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to write the report in time to make the draft report. I think it’s easier for everyone if Calcite reports in August.
I agree with you that late reports should not become a habit. Our previous reports have been filed on schedule.
I also agree with Marvin that it would be desirable to get other Calcite committers involved in the report process so that I am not the single point of failure.
Julian
On Jul 5, 2015, at 4:37 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> I'm okay with a late report. From a shepherds standpoint, the podling report is only part of what needs to be reviewed.
>
> Also I'm usually late with my shepherd reports since the Sunday deadline is somewhat inconvenient due to family, etc., but I always try to get it in by noon eastern time the following day.
>
> I think a late report (24-48 hrs., give or take) is perfectly tolerable on occasion, as long as it doesn't become habitual.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>>
>> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>>>
>>> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
>>> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
>>> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
>>> reminder text below.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> Dear podling,
>>>
>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>>>
>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>>> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>>>
>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>
>>> Submitting your Report
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>
>>> * Your project name
>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>>> the project or necessarily of its field
>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>> towards graduation.
>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>>> aware of
>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>
>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>>>
>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>>> this page is created from a template.
>>>
>>> Mentors
>>> -------
>>>
>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
>>> for the Incubator PMC.
>>>
>>> Incubator PMC
>>
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Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
Hi Julian,
I'm okay with a late report. From a shepherds standpoint, the podling report is only part of what needs to be reviewed.
Also I'm usually late with my shepherd reports since the Sunday deadline is somewhat inconvenient due to family, etc., but I always try to get it in by noon eastern time the following day.
I think a late report (24-48 hrs., give or take) is perfectly tolerable on occasion, as long as it doesn't become habitual.
-Taylor
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>
> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>>
>> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
>> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
>> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
>> reminder text below.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
>> ---------------
>>
>> Dear podling,
>>
>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>>
>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>>
>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
>> meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>
>> Submitting your Report
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> Your report should contain the following:
>>
>> * Your project name
>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>> the project or necessarily of its field
>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>> towards graduation.
>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>> aware of
>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>
>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>>
>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>> this page is created from a template.
>>
>> Mentors
>> -------
>>
>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
>> for the Incubator PMC.
>>
>> Incubator PMC
>
Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>
> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
Perhaps this is an opportunity to get someone else from the Calcite
community involved in reporting. It shouldn't be the case that
everyone relies on one person to handle the report and if they don't
do it it doesn't get done.
Missing one month is not a big deal, either in the Incubator or as a
TLP, so long as one month doesn't become two and then three and so on
-- we just note that the report wasn't received and mark it as
expected next month.
In contrast, filing at the last minute compresses the schedule and
tightens the requirements on other people involved: Mentors (and for
TLPs, Board Members) who are expected to review the report, and
especially the Incubator volunteer or Board member who is assigned as
shepherd and who is expected to perform a more thorough review.
Different people will tell you different things as to whether you
should file at the last minute or wait. In my view, the most courteous
approach is to acknowledge the late report pro-actively and announce
the intent to file next month, pre-empting any inquiry as to why the
report was missed. But some other people consider that too rigid and
will encourage filing at the last minute.
Ultimately, the only hard and fast rule is that if you file late
enough, you may not get the necessary signoffs: at least one Mentor
for a podling's report, and at least 5 Directors (I think) for a TLP
report.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>
> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
Perhaps this is an opportunity to get someone else from the Calcite
community involved in reporting. It shouldn't be the case that
everyone relies on one person to handle the report and if they don't
do it it doesn't get done.
Missing one month is not a big deal, either in the Incubator or as a
TLP, so long as one month doesn't become two and then three and so on
-- we just note that the report wasn't received and mark it as
expected next month.
In contrast, filing at the last minute compresses the schedule and
tightens the requirements on other people involved: Mentors (and for
TLPs, Board Members) who are expected to review the report, and
especially the Incubator volunteer or Board member who is assigned as
shepherd and who is expected to perform a more thorough review.
Different people will tell you different things as to whether you
should file at the last minute or wait. In my view, the most courteous
approach is to acknowledge the late report pro-actively and announce
the intent to file next month, pre-empting any inquiry as to why the
report was missed. But some other people consider that too rigid and
will encourage filing at the last minute.
Ultimately, the only hard and fast rule is that if you file late
enough, you may not get the necessary signoffs: at least one Mentor
for a podling's report, and at least 5 Directors (I think) for a TLP
report.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
Hi Julian,
I'm okay with a late report. From a shepherds standpoint, the podling report is only part of what needs to be reviewed.
Also I'm usually late with my shepherd reports since the Sunday deadline is somewhat inconvenient due to family, etc., but I always try to get it in by noon eastern time the following day.
I think a late report (24-48 hrs., give or take) is perfectly tolerable on occasion, as long as it doesn't become habitual.
-Taylor
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
>
> If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>>
>> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
>> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
>> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
>> reminder text below.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
>> ---------------
>>
>> Dear podling,
>>
>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>>
>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>>
>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
>> meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>
>> Submitting your Report
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> Your report should contain the following:
>>
>> * Your project name
>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>> the project or necessarily of its field
>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>> towards graduation.
>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>> aware of
>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>
>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>>
>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>> this page is created from a template.
>>
>> Mentors
>> -------
>>
>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
>> for the Incubator PMC.
>>
>> Incubator PMC
>
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Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
Julian
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>
> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
> reminder text below.
>
> Best,
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> ---------------
>
> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
>
> ----------------------
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> the project or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> -------
>
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
Re: July 2015 Report
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I am the person who usually writes the incubator report, and I have been on vacation for the last 7 days. So, it looks as if Calcite has missed the deadline for this month. My apologies to the IPMC and to our shepherd P. Taylor Goetz.
If it would be acceptable to file a report early tomorrow (Sun 5th) I can do that; please let me know. Otherwise I presume that Calcite will be reporting in August, and I will make sure that the report is filed on time.
Julian
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>
> The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever
> reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 15
> podlings who are expected to submit a July 2015 report. Boilerplate
> reminder text below.
>
> Best,
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> ---------------
>
> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:30 am Pacific.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, July 1st).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
>
> ----------------------
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> the project or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2015
>
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> -------
>
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
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