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slide alternatives
For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
lock-management stuff that I don't want.
I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
for stuff like PROPFIND.)
Comments?
Bill
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Re: slide alternatives
Posted by Bill Keese <bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp>.
By the way, if there are issues with WCK, how should I report them?
Mailing list? Bug database?
Currently I'm trying to use WCK mapping to a directory underneath my
webapp, rather than the root directory. (IE:
http://localhost:8080/slide/myDir.) Using the reference file store as
the store, it's not working for me. (I did set default-servlet to false)
Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>I agree that threre is a lot of extra baggage that might not be
>necessary for all (most) applications, but that simply may be the
>drawback of a general solution. It will fit many applications, so it
>is not specially geared towards yours.
>
>Before I contributed to WCK I was considering a much more lean and
>slim solution, but I that would have meant lots of double work.
>Additionally, by making it as generic as the Slide WCK solution it
>would almost have ended up in a similar complexity.
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Oliver
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:23:29 +0900, Bill Keese
><bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp> wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks Edmund. I have been using WCK but still have that feeling of so
>>much extra baggage, not to mention extra config files. Yes, I want to
>>write a class that implements an interface like the interface you
>>implement with WCK.
>>
>>As for lock management, I can't use Slide's lock manager because there
>>are multiple interfaces to my application, so files might be
>>locked/unlocked from outside the webdav arena. (Like you might lock a
>>file via a SOAP call, and then that has to be reflected to a user
>>accessing the file over WEBDAV)
>>
>>
>>Edmund Urbani wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bill Keese wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
>>>>what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
>>>>management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
>>>>well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
>>>>existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
>>>>lock-management stuff that I don't want.
>>>>
>>>>I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
>>>>calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
>>>>for stuff like PROPFIND.)
>>>>
>>>>Comments?
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't really know of any free alternatives to Slide, but integration
>>>should not be too hard with the WebDAV Construction Kit (WCK). After
>>>all, that's what it is for. You can find WCK is in the Slide CVS. There
>>>has been no release yet AFAIK.
>>>
>>>I think you can disable (most of) the user management stuff and simply
>>>configure tomcat to do no authentication. And the lock management -
>>>well, that kind of comes for free - no administrative overhead, so why
>>>get rid of it?
>>>
>>>Edmund
>>>
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Re: slide alternatives
Posted by Bill Keese <bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp>.
Thanks Oliver. Yeah, I understand what you are saying about duplicating
code. But, what about just overriding the classes in package
org.apache.slide.webdav.method? It seems like that's the code that
glues the webdav interface to the Slide CMS, so it would be a good point
to connect to my CMS rather than the slide's CMS.
Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>I agree that threre is a lot of extra baggage that might not be
>necessary for all (most) applications, but that simply may be the
>drawback of a general solution. It will fit many applications, so it
>is not specially geared towards yours.
>
>Before I contributed to WCK I was considering a much more lean and
>slim solution, but I that would have meant lots of double work.
>Additionally, by making it as generic as the Slide WCK solution it
>would almost have ended up in a similar complexity.
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Oliver
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:23:29 +0900, Bill Keese
><bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp> wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks Edmund. I have been using WCK but still have that feeling of so
>>much extra baggage, not to mention extra config files. Yes, I want to
>>write a class that implements an interface like the interface you
>>implement with WCK.
>>
>>As for lock management, I can't use Slide's lock manager because there
>>are multiple interfaces to my application, so files might be
>>locked/unlocked from outside the webdav arena. (Like you might lock a
>>file via a SOAP call, and then that has to be reflected to a user
>>accessing the file over WEBDAV)
>>
>>
>>Edmund Urbani wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bill Keese wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
>>>>what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
>>>>management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
>>>>well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
>>>>existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
>>>>lock-management stuff that I don't want.
>>>>
>>>>I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
>>>>calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
>>>>for stuff like PROPFIND.)
>>>>
>>>>Comments?
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't really know of any free alternatives to Slide, but integration
>>>should not be too hard with the WebDAV Construction Kit (WCK). After
>>>all, that's what it is for. You can find WCK is in the Slide CVS. There
>>>has been no release yet AFAIK.
>>>
>>>I think you can disable (most of) the user management stuff and simply
>>>configure tomcat to do no authentication. And the lock management -
>>>well, that kind of comes for free - no administrative overhead, so why
>>>get rid of it?
>>>
>>>Edmund
>>>
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Re: slide alternatives
Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>.
I agree that threre is a lot of extra baggage that might not be
necessary for all (most) applications, but that simply may be the
drawback of a general solution. It will fit many applications, so it
is not specially geared towards yours.
Before I contributed to WCK I was considering a much more lean and
slim solution, but I that would have meant lots of double work.
Additionally, by making it as generic as the Slide WCK solution it
would almost have ended up in a similar complexity.
Just my 2 cents.
Oliver
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:23:29 +0900, Bill Keese
<bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp> wrote:
> Thanks Edmund. I have been using WCK but still have that feeling of so
> much extra baggage, not to mention extra config files. Yes, I want to
> write a class that implements an interface like the interface you
> implement with WCK.
>
> As for lock management, I can't use Slide's lock manager because there
> are multiple interfaces to my application, so files might be
> locked/unlocked from outside the webdav arena. (Like you might lock a
> file via a SOAP call, and then that has to be reflected to a user
> accessing the file over WEBDAV)
>
>
> Edmund Urbani wrote:
>
> >Bill Keese wrote:
> >
> >
> >>For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
> >>what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
> >>management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
> >>well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
> >>existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
> >>lock-management stuff that I don't want.
> >>
> >>I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
> >>calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
> >>for stuff like PROPFIND.)
> >>
> >>Comments?
> >>
> >>Bill
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I don't really know of any free alternatives to Slide, but integration
> >should not be too hard with the WebDAV Construction Kit (WCK). After
> >all, that's what it is for. You can find WCK is in the Slide CVS. There
> >has been no release yet AFAIK.
> >
> >I think you can disable (most of) the user management stuff and simply
> >configure tomcat to do no authentication. And the lock management -
> >well, that kind of comes for free - no administrative overhead, so why
> >get rid of it?
> >
> > Edmund
> >
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Re: slide alternatives
Posted by Bill Keese <bi...@tech.beacon-it.co.jp>.
Thanks Edmund. I have been using WCK but still have that feeling of so
much extra baggage, not to mention extra config files. Yes, I want to
write a class that implements an interface like the interface you
implement with WCK.
As for lock management, I can't use Slide's lock manager because there
are multiple interfaces to my application, so files might be
locked/unlocked from outside the webdav arena. (Like you might lock a
file via a SOAP call, and then that has to be reflected to a user
accessing the file over WEBDAV)
Edmund Urbani wrote:
>Bill Keese wrote:
>
>
>>For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
>>what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
>>management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
>>well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
>>existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
>>lock-management stuff that I don't want.
>>
>>I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
>>calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
>>for stuff like PROPFIND.)
>>
>>Comments?
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>
>I don't really know of any free alternatives to Slide, but integration
>should not be too hard with the WebDAV Construction Kit (WCK). After
>all, that's what it is for. You can find WCK is in the Slide CVS. There
>has been no release yet AFAIK.
>
>I think you can disable (most of) the user management stuff and simply
>configure tomcat to do no authentication. And the lock management -
>well, that kind of comes for free - no administrative overhead, so why
>get rid of it?
>
> Edmund
>
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Re: slide alternatives
Posted by Edmund Urbani <em...@liland.org>.
Bill Keese wrote:
> For webdav-enabling an existing java application, I'm just wondering
> what the alternatives are to Slide, . Since Slide is a content
> management system with a webdav service built on top of it, it functions
> well as a CMS but it's overkill when you want to Webdav-enable an
> existing system. It does all sorts of user-management and
> lock-management stuff that I don't want.
>
> I feel like I just want something that converts the HTTP requests into
> calls to java functions. (And also does the XML serialize/deserialize
> for stuff like PROPFIND.)
>
> Comments?
>
> Bill
I don't really know of any free alternatives to Slide, but integration
should not be too hard with the WebDAV Construction Kit (WCK). After
all, that's what it is for. You can find WCK is in the Slide CVS. There
has been no release yet AFAIK.
I think you can disable (most of) the user management stuff and simply
configure tomcat to do no authentication. And the lock management -
well, that kind of comes for free - no administrative overhead, so why
get rid of it?
Edmund
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