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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> on 2009/09/14 17:26:44 UTC

Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with geronimo server by default ?

On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:

> Right,  I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as  
> "load=false".  So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring  
> agent.
>
> When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly  
> easily  without breaking the monitoring.
>
> Does anyone have any other comments ?

Agreed that this would be more convenient for most users. I don't  
recall any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't included. Vaguely  
recall that ejb support was developed first because MEJB support is  
required per the EE spec.

--kevan 

Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with geronimo server by default ?

Posted by Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>.
Fixed this with JIRA https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-4883

Shawn Jiang resolved GERONIMO-4883.
-----------------------------------

      Resolution: Fixed
   Fix Version/s: 3.0
                  2.2
                  2.1.5

Fixed in 21 branch,22 branch, and trunk.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:45 AM, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
>>
>>  Right,  I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as
>>> "load=false".  So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring agent.
>>>
>>> When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly
>>> easily  without breaking the monitoring.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other comments ?
>>>
>>
>> Agreed that this would be more convenient for most users. I don't recall
>> any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't included. Vaguely recall that ejb
>> support was developed first because MEJB support is required per the EE
>> spec.
>>
> Does it mean that we still have to keep ejb agent on by default to meet the
> EE spec ?
>
>
> no, the monitoring is not part of the spec so we can use anything we want.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>
>> --kevan
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn
>
>
>


-- 
Shawn

Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with geronimo server by default ?

Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Kevan Miller  
> <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
>
> Right,  I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as  
> "load=false".  So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring  
> agent.
>
> When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly  
> easily  without breaking the monitoring.
>
> Does anyone have any other comments ?
>
> Agreed that this would be more convenient for most users. I don't  
> recall any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't included. Vaguely  
> recall that ejb support was developed first because MEJB support is  
> required per the EE spec.
> Does it mean that we still have to keep ejb agent on by default to  
> meet the EE spec ?

no, the monitoring is not part of the spec so we can use anything we  
want.

thanks
david jencks

>
> --kevan
>
>
>
> -- 
> Shawn


Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with geronimo server by default ?

Posted by Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
>
>  Right,  I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as
>> "load=false".  So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring agent.
>>
>> When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly easily
>>  without breaking the monitoring.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other comments ?
>>
>
> Agreed that this would be more convenient for most users. I don't recall
> any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't included. Vaguely recall that ejb
> support was developed first because MEJB support is required per the EE
> spec.
>
Does it mean that we still have to keep ejb agent on by default to meet the
EE spec ?

>
> --kevan
>



-- 
Shawn