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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com> on 2010/04/17 03:00:15 UTC
Release 4 on the download page
Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
-Adrian
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
>
I agree, especially because Release 4.0 is not an official ASF release
BTW have a look at the new download page, it is much cleaner now.
> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
>
In my opinion we don't need all those snapshots (there are too many also for the trunk, imo). But at least a couple of snapshots for the 9.04 release branch are useful because the release branch is receiving new bug fix commits (that could induce us to release a bug fix release 9.04.1 in the future).
Jacopo
> -Adrian
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Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Inline
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
+1
> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
+1 - they should go.
>
> -Adrian
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Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
If we want to distribute it thru the ASF mirrors (and have it in the ASF release archive) we will have to officially release it (i.e. prepare the package, sign it, vote on it and publish) as we did a few days ago for the 09.04 release. I don't think it is worth of the effort but I am wide open to suggestions.
Jacopo
On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> would 4.0 be an archive or put some other site like 3.0 is
>
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> Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/16/2010 10:28 PM:
>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>>> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
>>>
>>
>> I agree, especially because Release 4.0 is not an official ASF release
>> BTW have a look at the new download page, it is much cleaner now.
>>
>>> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
>>>
>>
>> In my opinion we don't need all those snapshots (there are too many also for the trunk, imo). But at least a couple of snapshots for the 9.04 release branch are useful because the release branch is receiving new bug fix commits (that could induce us to release a bug fix release 9.04.1 in the future).
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I hear Jacopo on it not being worth the trouble but I agree with Tim that showing more than one release is important.
If there is enough interest I will do the necessary steps to prepare the release package and start a vote, I am not against this, but I would like to get more positive feedback before I start the process.
Even if it is a bit weird to release and older release a few days after a newer has been released; but of course we will not give much visibility to this one, and I understand it is more like a paperwork.
> A related thing that releasing 4.0 signals is that we are concerned about providing long-term support for the product. Support is an important factor for decision makers evaluating OFBiz as a solution for their business.
>
The only signal we can give is that we do what we can to provide to the community (final users, service providers etc...) the resources (in this case the resource is the official release package available thru mirrors) to facilitate the work of supporting older releases; but the burden to support the releases is up to the community, if there are no contributions then the releases (in term of support, docs etc...) will not be much different from trunk snapshots. It is important that we all understand that there are no (implied) promises for support, backward compatibility etc. when the PMC issues a release. It is up to the community the burden of maintaining it.
Kind regards,
Jacopo
> ----- "Tim Ruppert" wrote:
>> I'd say let's do the same with 4.0 release - it then shows that we have more than one release :)
>
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Ok, there seems to be enough interest at the moment at least to start the process of offcially release (and then archive) the old 4.0 release.
I have created the release package and signatures here:
http://people.apache.org/~jacopoc/dist/
Please download, build, test and also verify the signatures. We may start a formal vote soon if there aren't objections.
Kind regards,
Jacopo
On Apr 18, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
> +1
>
> --
> Ashish
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> On 17-Apr-2010, at 11:55 PM, Ean Schuessler <ea...@brainfood.com> wrote:
>
>> I hear Jacopo on it not being worth the trouble but I agree with Tim that showing more than one release is important. A related thing that releasing 4.0 signals is that we are concerned about providing long-term support for the product. Support is an important factor for decision makers evaluating OFBiz as a solution for their business.
>>
>> ----- "Tim Ruppert" wrote:
>>> I'd say let's do the same with 4.0 release - it then shows that we have more than one release :)
>>
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Ashish Vijaywargiya <vi...@gmail.com>.
+1
--
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Sent from my iPod
On 17-Apr-2010, at 11:55 PM, Ean Schuessler <ea...@brainfood.com> wrote:
> I hear Jacopo on it not being worth the trouble but I agree with Tim
> that showing more than one release is important. A related thing
> that releasing 4.0 signals is that we are concerned about providing
> long-term support for the product. Support is an important factor
> for decision makers evaluating OFBiz as a solution for their business.
>
> ----- "Tim Ruppert" wrote:
>> I'd say let's do the same with 4.0 release - it then shows that we
>> have more than one release :)
>
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Ean Schuessler <ea...@brainfood.com>.
I hear Jacopo on it not being worth the trouble but I agree with Tim that showing more than one release is important. A related thing that releasing 4.0 signals is that we are concerned about providing long-term support for the product. Support is an important factor for decision makers evaluating OFBiz as a solution for their business.
----- "Tim Ruppert" wrote:
> I'd say let's do the same with 4.0 release - it then shows that we have more than one release :)
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
I'd say let's do the same with 4.0 release - it then shows that we have more than one release :)
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:50 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> maybe post on user ml to see how many respond.
> I agree a lot of work if not being used.
> I guess removing it give the same message as archive.
>
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> Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/17/2010 12:25 AM:
>> If we want to distribute it thru the ASF mirrors (and have it in the ASF release archive) we will have to officially release it (i.e. prepare the package, sign it, vote on it and publish) as we did a few days ago for the 09.04 release. I don't think it is worth of the effort but I am wide open to suggestions.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> would 4.0 be an archive or put some other site like 3.0 is
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Linkedin
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/16/2010 10:28 PM:
>>>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
>>>>>
>>>> I agree, especially because Release 4.0 is not an official ASF release
>>>> BTW have a look at the new download page, it is much cleaner now.
>>>>
>>>>> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
>>>>>
>>>> In my opinion we don't need all those snapshots (there are too many also for the trunk, imo). But at least a couple of snapshots for the 9.04 release branch are useful because the release branch is receiving new bug fix commits (that could induce us to release a bug fix release 9.04.1 in the future).
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
maybe post on user ml to see how many respond.
I agree a lot of work if not being used.
I guess removing it give the same message as archive.
=========================
BJ Freeman
http://bjfreeman.elance.com
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
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Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/17/2010 12:25 AM:
> If we want to distribute it thru the ASF mirrors (and have it in the ASF release archive) we will have to officially release it (i.e. prepare the package, sign it, vote on it and publish) as we did a few days ago for the 09.04 release. I don't think it is worth of the effort but I am wide open to suggestions.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> would 4.0 be an archive or put some other site like 3.0 is
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>
>>
>> Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/16/2010 10:28 PM:
>>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
>>>>
>>> I agree, especially because Release 4.0 is not an official ASF release
>>> BTW have a look at the new download page, it is much cleaner now.
>>>
>>>> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
>>>>
>>> In my opinion we don't need all those snapshots (there are too many also for the trunk, imo). But at least a couple of snapshots for the 9.04 release branch are useful because the release branch is receiving new bug fix commits (that could induce us to release a bug fix release 9.04.1 in the future).
>>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Release 4 on the download page
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
would 4.0 be an archive or put some other site like 3.0 is
=========================
BJ Freeman
http://bjfreeman.elance.com
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Linkedin
<http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
Jacopo Cappellato sent the following on 4/16/2010 10:28 PM:
> On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
>> Now that we have an official 9.04 release, and since interest in Release 4.0 has waned, should we remove Release 4.0 from the downloads page?
>>
>
> I agree, especially because Release 4.0 is not an official ASF release
> BTW have a look at the new download page, it is much cleaner now.
>
>> Also, now that we have an official 9.04 release, do we still need all of those 9.04 snapshots?
>>
>
> In my opinion we don't need all those snapshots (there are too many also for the trunk, imo). But at least a couple of snapshots for the 9.04 release branch are useful because the release branch is receiving new bug fix commits (that could induce us to release a bug fix release 9.04.1 in the future).
>
> Jacopo
>
>> -Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>