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The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Hi Chris, all,
The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere
in 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the
one you suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not
seem to be very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2],
which has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early
february 2018 (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is
also pretty cool, IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
- Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
- Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if
I'm wrong).
Kind regards,
Antonio
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
[3]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/apache-netbeans-logo.png
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Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales
better and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you
can see it here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
Cheers
Chris
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi again,
So, to keep things moving, shall we announce closing the contest by,
say, until March the 1st?
And start the voting during March 2nd, 3rd and 4th?
Or is that too fast? ;-)
Cheers,
Antonio
On 26/02/18 12:09, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> That sounds good. Thanks for persevering with this, Antonio.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris, all,
>>
>> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
>> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
>> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
>> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>>
>> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
>> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
>> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
>> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>>
>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>
>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>
>> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
>> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
>> wrong).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Antonio
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>>
>> [2]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>>
>> [3]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/
>> apache-netbeans-logo.png
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
>> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
>> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
>> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
>> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
>> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
That sounds good. Thanks for persevering with this, Antonio.
Gj
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi Chris, all,
>
> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>
> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>
> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>
> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>
> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>
> [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>
> [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/
> apache-netbeans-logo.png
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>
> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re:
ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
I know all of that, the page in the wiki was from me, because I didn’t know the real voting process for that. Now we have a ticket, someone created it in Q4 last year I think. But there was no Progress until now. So no real announcement that someone should create logos and adding stuff. Junichi was one of 2 I think who created a logo proposal. So for now there is no contest that can closed, or do we accept that, what we already have? Then I’m really fine with that.
I only wanted to give a hint, that we should choose the SVG variant of the logo on the new draft, not the png file, because on my Screen it Looks blurry. I only wanted to mention, that I use the SVG variant, of the other, colorful logo. I don’t wanted to Change it. Only using SVG instead of PNG.
So great that we have a vote soon, I thought it is Apache way to have the vote in JIRA, as someone other said that to me. But Mailing list is also ok, if this is going to happen.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Montag, 26. Februar 2018 12:06
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
Hi Chris, all,
The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere
in 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the
one you suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not
seem to be very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2],
which has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early
february 2018 (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is
also pretty cool, IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
- Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
- Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if
I'm wrong).
Kind regards,
Antonio
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
[3]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/apache-netbeans-logo.png
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales
better and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you
can see it here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
Cheers
Chris
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Re: AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Daniel Trebbien <dt...@gmail.com>.
Also, this is the replacement icon that I use for VirtualBox:
https://jasonzigrino.deviantart.com/art/VirtualBox-For-OS-X-Yosemite-500664140
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Add to "Microsoft Orleans" to the list of people that "are copying" our
> logo :-)
>
> https://twitter.com/msftorleans
>
>
>
> On 27/02/18 13:35, Christian Lenz wrote:
>
>> NB Inside the cube could also be an Option. Yes I know that Webpack logo,
>> if you mean this: https://worldvectorlogo.com/logo/webpack-icon
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Von: Wade Chandler
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 13:25
>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
>> Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
>>
>> When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
>> both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those
>> cube
>> icons for decades at this point.
>>
>> Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube.
>> But,
>> did have the hexgon outline.
>>
>> Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
>> as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
>>
>> I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
>> of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
>> could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as
>> "into
>> a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
>> distinct shadow.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris, all,
>>>
>>> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere
>>> in
>>> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one
>>> you
>>> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
>>> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>>>
>>> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
>>> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february
>>> 2018
>>> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
>>> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>>>
>>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>>
>>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>>
>>> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
>>> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if
>>> I'm
>>> wrong).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
>>> ache-netbeans-logo.png
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
>>> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
>>> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>>
>>> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
>>> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see
>>> it
>>> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Add to "Microsoft Orleans" to the list of people that "are copying" our
logo :-)
https://twitter.com/msftorleans
On 27/02/18 13:35, Christian Lenz wrote:
> NB Inside the cube could also be an Option. Yes I know that Webpack logo, if you mean this: https://worldvectorlogo.com/logo/webpack-icon
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Wade Chandler
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 13:25
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
>
> When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
> both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube
> icons for decades at this point.
>
> Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But,
> did have the hexgon outline.
>
> Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
> as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
>
> I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
> of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
> could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into
> a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
> distinct shadow.
>
> Wade
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris, all,
>>
>> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
>> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
>> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
>> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>>
>> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
>> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
>> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
>> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>>
>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>
>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>
>> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
>> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
>> wrong).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Antonio
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>>
>> [2]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>>
>> [3]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
>> ache-netbeans-logo.png
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
>> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
>> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
>> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
>> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
>> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re:
ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
NB Inside the cube could also be an Option. Yes I know that Webpack logo, if you mean this: https://worldvectorlogo.com/logo/webpack-icon
Cheers
Chris
Von: Wade Chandler
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 13:25
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube
icons for decades at this point.
Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But,
did have the hexgon outline.
Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into
a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
distinct shadow.
Wade
On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi Chris, all,
>
> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>
> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>
> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>
> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>
> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>
> [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>
> [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
> ache-netbeans-logo.png
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>
> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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Re: AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by John Muczynski <jo...@gmail.com>.
I realize a monochrome icon might win a popularity vote, but I'll take a
colorful icon every day. Call me vain.
On Feb 27, 2018 7:35 AM, "Christian Lenz" <ch...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Therefor it could be good to have the colored one. One Color for each
> Piece for example. Only an idea.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Wade Chandler
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 13:25
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
> Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
>
> When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
> both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube
> icons for decades at this point.
>
> Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But,
> did have the hexgon outline.
>
> Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
> as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
>
> I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
> of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
> could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into
> a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
> distinct shadow.
>
> Wade
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris, all,
> >
> > The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere
> in
> > 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one
> you
> > suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
> > very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
> >
> > Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
> > has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february
> 2018
> > (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
> > IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
> >
> > To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
> >
> > - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> > - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
> >
> > I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
> > expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if
> I'm
> > wrong).
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Antonio
> >
> > [1]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
> >
> > [2]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
> >
> > [3]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
> > ache-netbeans-logo.png
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
> > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
> > From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> > Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> > I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
> > and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see
> it
> > here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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AW: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re:
ANetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Therefor it could be good to have the colored one. One Color for each Piece for example. Only an idea.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Wade Chandler
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 13:25
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: ANetBeans website proposal))
When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube
icons for decades at this point.
Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But,
did have the hexgon outline.
Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into
a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
distinct shadow.
Wade
On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi Chris, all,
>
> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>
> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>
> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>
> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>
> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>
> [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>
> [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
> ache-netbeans-logo.png
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>
> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube;
both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube
icons for decades at this point.
Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But,
did have the hexgon outline.
Has anyone see the latest Webpack logo? It seems to differ only in color,
as they have added boldness and contrast to the internal cube lines.
I think it would be fair to afford some time for some modification because
of this. Just some ideas: Some extra depth to the layer around the cube
could relate to the pieces from "Fits the pieces together" as well as "into
a new dimension". Maybe even adding some tilt to the hexagon to give it a
distinct shadow.
Wade
On Feb 26, 2018 06:06, "Antonio" <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi Chris, all,
>
> The situation with the logo is that there was a voting at [1] somewhere in
> 2016, the most voted logo is not the one with colors, so using the one you
> suggest (with colors) instead of the most voted one does not seem to be
> very Apache compliant, as it would be against a voting result.
>
> Also in late 2017 we opened an Apache NetBeans logo contest at [2], which
> has not been closed yet. There has been a submission in early february 2018
> (i.e., a few days ago) from Junichi (see [3]), which is also pretty cool,
> IMHO, and also deserves our consideration.
>
> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>
> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>
> I know this is probably lots of bureaucracy, but that's how things are
> expected to work in this Apache world, AFAIK (and please correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Logo
>
> [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145
>
> [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12909573/ap
> ache-netbeans-logo.png
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:58:53 +0100
> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>
> I would like to Change the logo to the SVG file, because it scales better
> and we don’t have any Problems with Retina and whatever, as you can see it
> here: http://netbeans.apache.org/. I added the SVG too.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:24 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> I'd say the icon without the typography.
>
Agreed, so +1 from me to that and your schedule.
Given the necessarily short schedule, etc., and as we find our feet at
Apache, it might be good to keep in mind that any decision could get
reviewed around either next major release or when we become a top-level
project - ie. it's not a vote on something that will be fixed for all
eternity! ;-)
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Re: AW: T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW:
Merged tomaster (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Me wanna netbeans t-shirt now! :-)
On 27/02/18 12:54, Christian Lenz wrote:
> This is another Topic, but Geertjan and me created a SpreadShop at SpreadShirt, where I work for: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/netbeans/ So we have to discuss what we want to do with this shop.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Antonio
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 12:36
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged tomaster (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
>
> Talking of which, the ASF Swag site
>
> http://apacheswag.com/
>
> Has no Apache NetBeans T-Shirts yet!! :-(
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
> Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:58:11 +0000
> From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea!
>>
>
> Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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AW: T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW:
Merged tomaster (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
This is another Topic, but Geertjan and me created a SpreadShop at SpreadShirt, where I work for: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/netbeans/ So we have to discuss what we want to do with this shop.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Antonio
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 12:36
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged tomaster (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
Talking of which, the ASF Swag site
http://apacheswag.com/
Has no Apache NetBeans T-Shirts yet!! :-(
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Subject: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:58:11 +0000
From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea!
>
Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-)
Best wishes,
Neil
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T-Shirts (was Fwd: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to
master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal)))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Talking of which, the ASF Swag site
http://apacheswag.com/
Has no Apache NetBeans T-Shirts yet!! :-(
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was
Re: A NetBeans website proposal))
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:58:11 +0000
From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea!
>
Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-)
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 10:40 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea!
>
Yes, particularly on a T-shirt! ;-)
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Neil
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
I like that "Powered by NetBeans..." logo idea!
Thanks, Bertrand,
Antonio
On 27/02/18 10:31, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Eduard Karel de Jong
> <ed...@dejongfrz.nl> wrote:
>> ...The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we
>> want to present in the typography...
>
> Note also https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs which has a
> (small) section on logos and graphics policy.
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Eduard Karel de Jong
<ed...@dejongfrz.nl> wrote:
> ...The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that we
> want to present in the typography...
Note also https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs which has a
(small) section on logos and graphics policy.
-Bertrand
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re:
A NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Eduard <in...@dejongfrz.nl>.
Indeed, the icon without typgraphy should be the item to vote upon this
time.
The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that
we want to present in the typography, for instance:
-the word "apache"
-the feather
-a 'badge' with "IDE" (with a possible alternate badge for the
framework, like "AFW".
An other question is if the words "Net" and "Beans" should be with
distinct typography.
Cheers
Eduard
Antonio wrote:
> I'd say the icon without the typography.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>>
>>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good!
>>
>> Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage
>> literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any
>> text /
>> typography?
>>
>> Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we
>> mean.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re:
A NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Eduard Karel de Jong <ed...@dejongfrz.nl>.
Indeed, the icon without typgraphy should be the item to vote upon this
time.
The next discussion and a subsequent vote should be on the elements that
we want to present in the typography, for instance:
-the word "apache"
-the feather
-a 'badge' with "IDE" (with a possible alternate badge for the
framework, like "AFW".
An other question is if the words "Net" and "Beans" should be with
distinct typography.
Cheers
Eduard
Antonio wrote:
> I'd say the icon without the typography.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>>
>>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good!
>>
>> Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage
>> literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any
>> text /
>> typography?
>>
>> Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we
>> mean.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
I'd say the icon without the typography.
Cheers,
Antonio
On 26/02/18 12:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>>
>> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
>> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>>
>
> Sounds good!
>
> Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage
> literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text /
> typography?
>
> Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A
NetBeans website proposal))
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:06 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> To end up the logo discussion once and for all I propose:
>
> - Announcing closing the contest within a few days.
> - Announce a voting in the mailing list, as per the Apache way.
>
Sounds good!
Can we also clarify what we mean by logo though? Are we at this stage
literally looking for the replacement for the cube icon, without any text /
typography?
Because currently the blue logo has 6 or 8 votes depending on what we mean.
Best wishes,
Neil
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